Win7 performance with or without Boot Camp

Have you got any comparable experiences with installing Windows with MBR and then with BootCamp? How about processor performance and multitasking?
Thanks

Hi Wilde,
I've been a supporter of Blizzard since Day One (within about two weeks of their original game release) and I've always appreciated their support and appreciation for OS X gamers. In my mind, they've been probably one of the most dedicated multi-platform developers for games (excluding consoles). I've also found their Mac support group to be extremely friendly and approachable. Almost every thread I've started related to OS X or Mac hardware in the World of Warcraft support forums has been answered or acknowledged by a staff member.
The install of SC2 on the Windows side is just as painless as it is on the OS X side. So if you've got the HD space on your existing Boot Camp partition, there's no harm in trying. I personally play TF2 (Steam) on the PC side as I find it doesn't run well on OS X. Yet oddly enough, CS: Source runs just fine on both sides.
No harm in leaving the machine in "Higher Performance" mode. I personally will rarely ever game on battery power.

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