Withholding tax-"minimum-maximum amount" & accumulation setting
Dear FI experts,
as the TDS rate changed in Punjab, my client's requirement is,,
if they are posting an invoice with amount more than 20000 then tax to withheld,
or it will be withheld if more than Rs 50000 transaction is made in a fiscal year.
please suggest how to configure
regards
deepak
thank you for your response..
sir, if i set accumulation per year with starting month 04 in tax type creation & maintain the minimum base as 50000 than it is deducting the tds if more than 50000 rs posting is made in a year.
in same case we want to deduct the tds if a single invoice amount exceeds 20000 rs.
how is it possible..
please suggest
deepak
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Extended Withholding Tax ( Minimum/maximum Base Amount ) - with accumulati
We are facing problem in posting of vendor Invoice. Actually we have implemented Minimum base amount ( Rs. 75000/- ) at withholding tax type level and accumulation at per year in withholding tax type A1 ( for testing purpose ) and assign the same to a vendor. We have booked some invoices up to RS. 75000/- system working fine, no WHT is deducted. But now we have received a another Invoice Rs. 5000/- and at the time of booking of invoice system giving an error message
I have changed the error message to warning but itu2019s again showing the same error message.
Actually the problem is system calculate the WHT from the beginning of the year to till date and the amount of Vendor invoice is less the than the amount of WHT but itu2019s legal requirement and we have to post the financial entry as mentioned below
Fictitious figures
Vendor Account Dr. Rs, 1500.00 ( Debit instead of credit )
Expense Account Dr. Rs. 5000.00 ( Actual exp. Of Invoice )
WHT Payable Account Cr. Rs. 6500.00 ( Total WHT from the beginning
Please provide the any.
SAP reply
Dear Customer,
We understand your requirement. But the standard SAP system does not support a scenario where an invoice amount in lower than the tax amount.
This is not a localization specific requirement. The accumulation logic is a generic system behaviour and all countries use it. We cannot make any change in the standard in this regard and change the current system behaviour.
Option to handle this in the system
The only way this can be handled in the system is once the accumulation limit has been reached, use a separate tax type tax code with out accumulations.
Though this is not the ideal solution, this is the best possible solution for your requirement.
Accumulation is not localized for India and the standard solution vailable for all the countries is used by Indian customers too.
SAP is currently not looking at any enhancements to this feature.
Other than the option mentioned above, there is no other way of handling this in the system.
Best Regards,
Soumya
If any one have any otehr solution please inform us.This cannot be possible for two reasons.
1. If you are not able to recover the amount from the Vendor, you'll have to bear it yourself which is a loss to the company.
2. Even if such a process is provided, you cannot alter the previous invoices and your EWT amount does not correspond to the invoice you account for. SAP works in an assumption that Tax will be calculated as a % of base price and cannot exceed it.
The only way to mitigate this is to decide whether a Vendor would require this exemption to be declared based on past experience and past amount of transactions in the beginning itself. If it is unlikely, better do not declare the accumulation limit for them. This will save you from incurring loss and reducing the risk for the company. Start deducting right from the beginning.
If you are not sure, instead of giving accumulation, you can declare exemption upto 75000. In this case, SAP cannot check whether the Vendor has crossed the limit or not. You'll have to manually check and pass a Debit note to that extent when he exceeds the limit. Again, this does not evade the risk of loss for the company. Also, you cannot do TDS post processing for this amount (like TDS Remittance challan, TDS Certificate etc).
So, in my opinion, try and decide if the Vendor would require accumulation right in the beginning itself. Even if not able to decide, you can still deduct the tax and issue a TDS certificate, which the Vendor can claim refund based on his transactions with you from the Income Tax in case he does not exceed the limit. This will limit the risk of loss for the company.
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Extended Withholding Tax - Minimum Amount
Dear SAP Expert,
In our setup we have extended withholding tax incoming payment for outgoing invoices.
The scenario is if invoice base amount is less than 300 EGP (local curreny) then withholding tax information should not capture invoice document.
I setup minimum based amount on withholding tax type and withholding tax codes level but still when user post outgoing invoices WHT information is captured in FI document.
Because of above issue automatic clearing (F.13) is not happening and we are getting error message like "Items with withholding tax code for customer subject to withholding tax"
looking for expert assistance.
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Prashant RaneDear Mani,
Thanks for assistance.
from your example I understand if invoice amount is less than 10,000 then WHT should be applicable.
In my example min invoice amount is 300 EGP
where 2 % WHT is applicable
I wanted to know in which below field I should enter 300 EGP (from your example 10,000)?
Calculation > Withholding Tax Codes > Define Formula for calculating Withholding Tax:
Currency u2013 EGP
W/Tax Type u2013 I2
W/Tax Code u2013 P2
Valid from u2013 01.01.2009
To base amount - 999,999,999,999
W/Tax Rate u2013 2%
Reduced Withholding Tax Rate for Exemption u2013 BLANK
Reduction of Base Amount u2013 BLANK
Decreased Reduction of Base Amount - BLANK
Below is complete customizing I did in my setup
Financial Accounting
Financial Accounting Global Settings
Withholding Tax
Extended Withholding Tax
Calculation > Withholding Tax Type > Define Withholding Tax Type for payment posting:
Withhld tax type u2013 I2
Base Amount u2013 Net Amount
Accumulation Type u2013 No accumulation
Control Data u2013 W/Tax base manual, manual W/tax amnt, w/tax for payments, no cert. numbering
Base amount u2013 W/tax code level
W/tax amount - W/tax code level
Minimum check u2013 Min. base amnt check at doc invoice level
Post W/Tax Amount - YES
Calculation > Withholding Tax Codes > Define Withholding Tax Code:
Withhld tax type u2013 I2
W/tax code - P2
Base Amount u2013 Pecentage subject to tax 100%
Postings Indic- 1
Calculation u2013 W/tax rate u2013 2%
Calculation > Withholding Tax Codes > Define Formula for calculating Withholding Tax:
Currency u2013 EGP
W/Tax Type u2013 I2
W/Tax Code u2013 P2
Valid from u2013 01.01.2009
To base amount - 999,999,999,999
W/Tax Rate u2013 2%
Reduced Withholding Tax Rate for Exemption u2013 BLANK
Reduction of Base Amount u2013 BLANK
Decreased Reduction of Base Amount - BLANK
Calculation > Withholding Tax Codes > Minimum and Maximum Amounts
Min / Max Amounts for W/Tax Type
W/Tax Type u2013 I2
Currency u2013 EGP
Valid from u2013 01.01.2009
Min W/Tax Amount u2013 60
Max W/Tax Amount - 999,999,999,999.00
Min base amount u2013 300
Min / Max Amounts for W/Tax Code
W/Tax Type u2013 I2
W/Tax Code u2013 P2
Currency u2013 EGP
Valid from u2013 01.01.2009
Min W/Tax Amount u2013 60
Max W/Tax Amount - 999,999,999,999.00
Min base amount u2013 300
W/tax base exem amount u2013 BLANK
Company Code > Assign WHT Tax Type To Company Code:
Company Code u2013 0011
W/Tax Type u2013 I2
Customer Data u2013 Subject to W/Tax -
Withholding tax and Gross amount determination
Dear all
First of all, I would like to underline that before to post in this forum I have read all the documentation (official and not official) related to the Withholding Tax configuration in SAP, but in the end I have some doubts and so I kindly ask you cooperation to better understand the logical of the system.
In our country (ITLAY) the withholding tax (WTH tax) must be withheld at the payment invoice to the vendor, so our system should automatically calculate and posts the amount to the right tax account; my question is: which setting we have to use in order to have the right calculation of the base amount?
When you enter the invoice, the system determines the base amount for withholding tax and stores it in the document (INVOICE ENTRY SIDE). You can also enter the base amount directly. When the invoice is paid, the tax amount is calculated from the base amount and your specifications for the tax code. If the tax amount is to be paid to the tax authorities, the system automatically posts the amount to the tax account. The system reduces the payment amount to the vendor by the withholding tax to be paid (INVOICE PAYMENT SIDE).
At the Invoice Entry SIDE when entering documents, if the withholding tax is to be calculated at the time payment is made, only the base amount is calculated when the invoice is posted, this is what we are looking for, so my question is:
How does the system calculate the base amount of WTH tax?
Maybe an example could be better to explain our request:
Invoice received from a Tax adviser that is liable to Withholding tax.
1. Invoice Total Amount 1372
2. Fees (Tax Base amount and WHT Tax base amount) 1000
3. Specific Italian Contribution (Tax Base amount and NO WHT Tax base amount) 20
4. Social Security Contribution (Tax Base amount and WHT Tax base amount) 40
5. Expenses reimbursement (NO Tax Base amount and NO WHT Tax base amount) 100
6. VAT Basis (point 2 + 3 + 4) 1060
7. VAT Amount (20%) 212
8. Withholding Tax Basis (point 2 + 4) 1040
9. Withholding Tax Amount (20%) 208
Is it possible to manage this flow under the Invoice Verification FLOW? It means:
1. Issue a Purchase Order to the TAX consultant
2. post the GR for services
3. post the IR, in this step the System should calculate the WTH base amount 1040
4. post the payment and the WTH TAX
Accounting flow is:
Point 2) post the GR for services
Credit Balance Sheet GRIR services account -1040
Debit P&L Account for services 1040
Point 3) post the IR
Credit Vendor Account -1372
Debit Balance Sheet GRIR services account 1040
WTH TAX BASE AMOUNT
Debit P&L Account Expenses reimbursement 100
NO TAX BASE AMOUNT AND NO WHT TAX BASE AMOUNT
Debit P&L Account Specific Italian Contribution 20
TAX BASE AMOUNT AND NO WHT TAX BASE AMOUNT
Debit Balance Sheet Tax Account 212
Point 4) post payment to the vendor
Debit Vendor Account 1372
Credit Balance Sheet WTH TAX ACCOUNT -208
Credit Balance Sheet Bank Account -1164
I have just one doubt: for the calculation of the WTH TAX base amount the system consider the amount/value of the GR, so in this case 1040 or the system will take in consideration all the item for the VAT TAX BASE AMOUNT, so in this case 1060?
I am asking this because I found on the SAP documentation, when it explain the Withholding Tax Type Calculation Setting:
Gross amount - The withholding tax base amount equals the line item gross amount.
Tax amount - The withholding tax base amount equals the tax amount of the line item.
I know my request is not so clear, and I have to apologize with you because it is very long, but please someone can help me
Regards
Marcothanks for all folks
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Dear All,
What are the configuration required for calculation of wtax on net amt.
Normal Scenario
The system calculates wtax as below
Professional Exp 100/-
To Vendor 90/-
To TDS 10/-
But the Required Scenario as below
Professional Exp 110/-
To Vendor 100/-
To TDS 10/-
Awaits for the feedback.Dear Atif,
Its my humble request you to kindly provide me all the possibilities & even if it is manipulating Wtax rates.
Regards,
Nazia -
Withholding Tax Certificate (Spain)
Hi,
One of the requirements in the project I am working at the moment is to generate the Withholding Tax Certificate and I can find out the way of generating the print out. The country where the report needs to be generated is Spain. Could anyone give me a hand? since I cannot find a standard form for this.. Do I have to generate a new form copying from an existing one? Is the WH Tax Certificate generated from the tr. S_PL0_09000447 and then this calls the form generated for this report?
Thanks and regards in advance.
F.Hi
Symptom
Your company code is in Spain and you work with classic withholding tax.
This note is designed to help during the changeover from classic to extended withholding tax for Spain.
Other terms
Withholding tax, QSSKZ, customer, vendor, withholding tax changeover, withholding tax migration, WTMG, WTMIGRATION, classic withholding tax, QST, extended withholding tax, Spain
Reason and Prerequisites
The changeover from classic to extended withholding tax must be performed using a conversion tool (Transaction WTMG).
Solution
Since Release 40B, the extended withholding tax function has been available in the standard system. By changing to the extended withholding tax, it makes using withholding tax on the debit side possible. In addition it is possible to post different withholding tax categories in a document at the same time. You can find more information on the extended withholding tax function in the SAP Library.
It is only possible to change from classic withholding tax to extended withholding tax using a conversion tool.
On no account should you activate the extended withholding tax in your system without using this tool if you have been using the classic withholding tax up to now.
Information concerning the changeover and the changeover tool can be found in Note 337267.
This note describes the creation of the withholding tax types and withholding tax codes and the use of the changeover tool for the country Spain.
However this note does not replace the documentation concerning the withholding tax changeover in the SAP Library (or the Word file during the transport from the SAPServ according to Note 186989), it simply provides additional information for Spain!
1. The following is a list of the withholding tax codes used in classic withholding tax. If the withholding tax codes you are using are called differently, you must take that into account later during the assignment of the withholding tax codes of classic withholding tax to the type/code combinations of extended withholding tax.
Probably the specified withholding tax codes do not agree with those which have you used in classic withholding tax. Since the specified codes are the official ones, first change your Customizing for classic withholding tax such that the specified withholding tax codes are defined for the different withholding tax codes.
2. Define the official withholding tax keys for the country ES in extended withholding tax under Financial Accounting Global Settings --> Withholding Tax --> Extended Withholding Tax --> Basic Settings --> Define Official Withholding Tax Codes:
3. Create the following withholding tax types of extended withholding tax for the country ES:
To create the withholding tax types, select Financial Accounting Global Settings --> Withholding Tax --> Extended Withholding Tax --> Calculation --> Withholding Tax Type --> Define Withholding Tax Type for Payment Posting in the Implementation Guide for Financial Accounting.
Select 'Net amount' in the "Calculation/Base amount" screen area in each case
Select 'W/tax comm. round' in the "Calculation/Rounding rule" screen area in each case
Select 'C/disc pre W/tx' in the "Calculation/Cash discount" screen area in each case
Set the 'Post w/tax amount' indicator in the "Calculation" screen area in each case
Select 'No accumulation' in the "Accumulation type" screen area in each case
Set the 'W/tax base manual', 'Manual w/tax amnt' and 'No cert. numbering' indicators in the "Control data" screen area in each case
Select 'W/tax code level' in the "Define minimum/maximum amounts", "Base amount" screen area in each case
Select 'W/tax code level' in the "Define minimum/maximum amounts", "Withholding tax amount" screen area in each case
Select 'No centr. invoice' in the "Central invoice" screen area in each case
Select 'Minimum Check at Item Level' in the "Minimum Check" screen area or 'No min. base check at item level' in the "Minimum base check" screen area in each case
All the other fields in the withholding tax type must be left unselected.
4. Create the withholding tax codes belonging to the withholding tax types:
To create the withholding tax codes, select Financial Accounting Global Settings --> Withholding Tax --> Extended Withholding Tax --> Calculation --> Withholding Tax Codes --> Define Withholding Tax Codes in the Implementation Guide for Financial Accounting.
Copy the names from the first list (under point 1).
Enter the official withholding tax key (Off. W/Tax Key) in the corresponding field as specified above.
Select the same percentage as defined in the corresponding withholding tax code of classic withholding tax under 'Calculation of the withholding tax base amount' for the percentage subject to tax in the "Base amount" screen area. (the percentage should agree with the above-mentioned percentage subject to tax (%sub.to tax)).
Select the same rate as defined in the corresponding withholding tax code of classic withholding tax under 'Calculation of withholding tax' for the withholding tax rate in the "Calculation" screen area (The rate should agree with the above-mentioned withholding tax rate (WT rate)).
Set value '1' for the Post.indic. in the "Postings" screen area
Select the corresponding settings as in the corresponding withholding tax code of classic withholding tax in the "Reporting information" screen area (The settings should agree with the above-mentioned specifications for region and income type (Inc.type)).
All the other fields in the withholding tax code must remain empty.
Create a withholding tax conversion run:
Call Transaction WTMG
Choose 'Create'
Assign a name to the conversion run
Select change 'Choose Company Codes' and enter the company code to be converted and country 'ES'
Select change 'Type/Code Assignment' and assign the respective new withholding tax types and withholding tax codes of extended withholding tax to the withholding tax codes of classic withholding tax defined for country 'ES':
Execute the 'Analysis'
Select the option 'Several withholding tax types possible per vendor' under 'Master data settings'
Carry out the conversion steps (to start with in the test run).
After the withholding tax changeover has occurred, create the following recipient codes for the country ES to complete Customizing:
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Withholding tax not captured for a single Vendor during Invoice
Dear SAP Gurus,
Withholding tax is not captured during MIRO for a particular Vendor. The Vendor Master has been assigned with the relative tax codes. Program RFWT0010 has been run. Tax Types have been
checked. Error message was changed to Warning in OBA5. Message 7Q321 Withholding tax
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G067 field status group checked for taxes - optional. Please give solution.
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Check with the minimum amount of the withholding tax code.
Check accumulation activated or not.
If you are using portary dependencies check the base withholding tax code given.
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SBO 2007 SP1 PL 07 or SBO 8.8 SP0 PL 11
The Dunning Wizard doesn't work for the A/R Invoice having the withholdin tax.
It includes the withholding tax in the amount to have. This is wrong!
Have you any idea how to fix this?
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Edited by: Simona Bossi on May 26, 2010 11:19 AMHi Sekar,
I Reproduced the same scenario till delivery and used Doc. Gen wiz as target document as A/R Invoice it worked fine.
Settings BP and Item both we set to Witholiding tax Liable. The Invoice had withholdig tax amout added generated by the DGW.
Could you check in for the list of BP in DGW (Document generation wizard)
Business Partner --> Accounting tab --> Tax sub-tab --> WT taxes allowed and check if you have one WT checked.
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Thanks in Advance
AnupamHi Anupam
Are you using TDS add on? it is free with SAP B1 2005 B.
and If you are not using it than also you can set TDS setup.
Go to administration --> setup --> Financial --> Tax --> Withholding Tax.
In withholding tax setup form you can set all % and valid from date.
regards
kamlesh vagal -
Hi,
I've maintained the withholding tax setting for Thailand company, and the withholding tax posting and amount are generated without problem, and the reference3 field is able to contain the document number, however when I generate the generic withholding tax reporting (RFIDYYWT), it got no document selected.
Does anyone has experience of setting up TH withholding tax? or facing this kind of problem before?
**Full points would be given if right solution is given.
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I am trying to test the withholding tax for vendors. My question is, if the invoice has many line items, and not all line items are subject to withholding tax due to its transaction nature, is it possible to select which items are applicable for withholding tax and let the system calculates the withholding tax by the line items? If yes, how do i do that as my understanding is, the withholding tax is at header level.
Thanks.
Regards,Hi
By default the system will calculate Withholding Tax for whole amount, if we want to change the value of Tax we have to manually change the Withholding Tax Base amount in the Withholding Tax tab of the Document Entry Screen and Change the Base amount to the amount for which the Withholding Tax has to be deducted then the system will calculate the Withholding Tax for the Base Value entered by us.
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I am having an issue with Cross-company code transaction while posting expense with 2 different company codes.
In the 2 company codes, one company code is setup for Withholding tax and other was not set.
While posting in FB50, I am getting the below message and system does not allow to post the invoice.
Company codes have different settings for withholding tax treatment
Message no. F5786
Diagnosis
You are entering a document containing at least one vendor or customer item and which has line items in several company codes. The extended withholding tax treatment has been set to active in one of these company codes, but not in one of the other company codes.
System Response
You cannot enter this kind of document.
Procedure
Enter the transaction in two documents.
For this I tried to test the transaction by activating of extended Withholding tax for both the company codes. Then the invoice is posting correctly now.
The point is if I activate extended withholding tax for the Company code which is not using the setup, will it face any issues in other areas? and also kindly advice whether is this a right way to set up to fix the current problem.
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JBC.Hi Mamta,
Thanks for the Response. I think you misunderstood my scenario.
For Eg in FB60 with Co code 5065:
I am debiting the Expenses for Co Code 1000(Witholding tax not active) and crediting the Bank Account of Co Code 5065(Withholding tax setup is done for this co code). When I tried to post with these line items I have getting the error.
Posting GL Co Code
Dr 106520(Exp) 1000
Cr 202020(Bank) 5065
For this I tried by activating the Withholding tax for Co code 1000 which is not active before and post it. The system allows me to post the invoice.
I want to know whether is this a right way to solve this issue and will it impact on any other areas by only activating the Withholding tax for a Co code?
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EfrenHi Ravinagh, I already have maintained accounts in Tx.OBWO, and the problem persists. Transaction MR8M does not consider this settings, unlike FB08. For example, this is documetn FI generated from invoice:
PK Acc. Text Amount
31 2010008239 Company AAA 1,047.20-
86 42010008 Fact.x Services 1,000.00
40 40011002 IVA-Purchasing 190.00
50 40012005 Withholding tax % 142.80-
MR8M generates this document:
PK Acc. Text Amount
21 2010008239 Company AAA 1,190.00
96 42010008 Fact.x Services 1,000.00-
50 40011002 IVA-Purchasing 190.00-
And what is required is as transaction FB08 generates:
PK Acc. Text Amount
21 2010008239 Company AAA 1,047.20
96 42010008 Fact.x Services 1,000.00-
50 40011002 IVA-Purchasing 190.00-
40 40012005 Withholding tax % 142.80
Here is the difference, where is the missing configuration to make MR8M generate this last item??
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Hi
can any one send me the documentation for Withholding tax calculated including transactional tax.
thanks
[email protected]
Edited by: Prashant on Apr 28, 2008 8:04 PMHi
By default the system will calculate Withholding Tax for whole amount, if we want to change the value of Tax we have to manually change the Withholding Tax Base amount in the Withholding Tax tab of the Document Entry Screen and Change the Base amount to the amount for which the Withholding Tax has to be deducted then the system will calculate the Withholding Tax for the Base Value entered by us.
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P Rajan -
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I would like to ask you when you can customize the settings for withholding tax. We have received the request to set a new witholdng tax which should calculate after $1000 before IVA (if invoice before iva is $1001 should calculate withholding) if the amount is 1000, it should not calculate the withholding tax.
Is it possible? so far its set with base amount 100% and calculation witholdng tax rate: 5%, posting indicator 1.
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Please use minimum and maximum amounts for your requirement in withholding tax calculation, go to spro-->financial account >financial accounting gs>withholding tax >extended withholding tax> calculation>min/max amounts>define min/max for types.
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