Youview HD and Vision HD

Hi,
I've been on another thread asking why no HD on a Vision box?
As we all know, the current box does not have DVB T2 to support Freeview HD, as this tech did not even exist when the boxes were in production.
My question is, why no HD NOW.
The technology's out there, but BT have chosen not to implement it yet.
Personally, I think BT are waiting for the launch of Youview.
Youview will be the IPTV service of the future.
Targetting the seven million Freeview users with broadband.
It makes commercial sense to do this.
The only thing I've been scratching my head over is BT have stated the current Vision box will be able to support Youview.
No it won't.
Youview box specs state a box MUST contain twin DVB T2 tuners for reception of SD and HD Freeview transmissions.
And  support HE AAC Dolby Digital audio.
And stream live HD content.
Err... No. The current Vision box won't do any of the above.
Nor can the majority of boxes out there. This is brand new technology.
Thoughts anyone?
Vision to be phased out? A HD Vision box showing HD Youview? A HD Youview box to deliver HD Vision?
The future of IPTV is going to become very interesting, thats for sure!
Rank - Mostly Harmless.

I believe there may be some confusion about what YouView is. It's not a service, but a platform. BT Vision will continue to provide a service but it's delivery platform will be YouView (and the legacy Vboxes for a while). So you'll be able to **bleep** down Comet and buy a Humax YouView  box with built-in Freeview or a Pace YouView box with built-in Freesat if you want then contact BT and ask for Vision, or Talk Talk and ask for whatever they call their package or whoever else decides they want to use the platform to support their content. Since that's all a bit of a pain, the service suppliers will be likely to subsidise the kit in exchange for content contracts.
It's possible that the current boxes may support the IPTV component with a bit of new software to allow you to get your service from elsewhere if you want even though they're not compliant to the spec, but eventually they'll be phased out as they're really a bit of a support millstone round BT's neck.
So the current notion of a proprietary Vision box will disappear, but BT Vision will continue purely as a service.
As for why they're not doing an HD BT Vision box; as I said elsewhere it would be wasted effort to put another generation of proprietary kit together when an open platform is just around the corner which they then have to spend the next 5 years supporting. Better to let it be Pace or Humax's problem. Yeah they may lose some customers on the way in the short term but some bean counter somewhere has no doubt decided that the lost business would be outweighed by the cost of the development/testing and support effort. It would be slightly bizarre if they spent the last 3 years developing the spec. for a  box and then came out with something that doesn't conform to that spec a few months before it launched. It would also royally hack off their customers if they got a new box and then every one started getting an even newer, shinier more useful box six months down the line. You've only got to read this forum to see that some people expect new hardware for nothing as soon as it's released. Why build your own bus when a number 69 has just left the depot and is on the way? Even if it is going to be a bit of a wait it's still better than the grief of employing a heap of mechanics to keep fixing the darn thing when all you really want to do is pay the fare and relax.
The name of the game then becomes how to attract customers who are getting their programming from Talk Talk et al through their YouView box to the Vision camp, which they can then do without providing any new kit at all. The competitors, of course, will be doing the same and that's where it gets interesting. I don't know if there's even a limitation on having one supplier at a time with YouView. If Vision and TT are substantially different and attractive in different ways you may be able to get both if that's what floats your boat and you're not still trying to pay off your student loan.
Or I could be barking up the wrong tree (or even just barking).

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