Zen Micro UMS supp

Hi there
I've just bought one of these little gems, and I'm very happy with it, but there's one thing I dislike quite a lot, and it's not being able to manage the player as an USB massi've storage device. I previously owned a Muvo Xtrainer and it was the easiest way to load music into the player. Aside from being easy, that way there's no need to used extra software for that matter, and that way music can be loaded at work, at relati've's or friend's homes or wherever using a PC/OS that supports UMS (the most if not all of them nowadays) without installing software that no one else will be using. So, I don't see why on earth it can't be that way, and I hope that it will be introduced in a future firmware release.
Any thoughts on the question? Any guy from Creative can tell us if there's a plan to make the player UMS compatible?
Thanks in advance
[P.S.: I still haven't tried that removable-disk feature, I doubt if the player will play music stored in that partition, but it's limited to 2GB.]

Thanks for the response SSR .
I had already read the dri've letter discursion on other threads, as well as other posts of people asking the same thing about theirs Zens Xtra and Touch. I just thought that being the Zen Micro a whole new product, Creative would change that issue to make the player more appealing for the consumer.
I don't know about other brand "big" jukeboxes, but I'm positi'vely sure that UMS can be supported without interfering with the way the player manages its library. Of course, I'd rather use the "ZenMicro Media Explorer" than dri've letter access in my computer at home because it gives you the possibility of changing stuff about the library, but not being able to use dri've letter access directly without drivers renders the player unusable on other's computers.
I hope Creative would provide us with UMS support with some other neat features like ogg playback and such in future firmware releases .

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CheerS!

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nzOdy wrote:
I've been trying to transfer mp3 files to my firmware upgraded Zen Micro and find that the transfer slows down and then locks the player after 30-40 files have successfully copied. This happens with ..0 and 2.2.02 firmwares.
The player will then remain in a 'acti've' docked state (black arrows) until the battery is removed. After this lock up tags on the mp3 files are messed up and display Chinese looking characters in the Details View.
This happens on two different computers with USB2.0, one Intel based and the other AMD.
Two questions - anyone know if this is a known issue being worked on for an imminent firmware update? And secondly - is the problem aggravated (or even created) because I am trying to copy files over from a directory tree (mp3's sorted into artist/album/ folders) rather than one flat folder with all mp3s in it (ie. in one single folder).
I'd try transferring fewer files at a time and see if that works.
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You can always organize the artists/albums later in Zen Micro Media Explorer or Creative MediaSource.

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Hello all,
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Message Edited by drawn-a-blank on 07-23-2005 09:30 PM

Bought Zen Micro to replace Zen Nano Plus - Can't get it to work

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Welcome to the Apple community.
If you are referring to adding a secondary account, to a single device, then you can do this at system preferences >mail, contacts & calendars.

Creative MediaSource won't recognize my Zen Micro all of the sudden!! What is going o

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Thank you for contacting Creative Technical Support.
In regards to your issue, you can try uninstall and reinstall
MEdiaSource with these procedures.
. Click START -> RUN -> type MSCONFIG and click OK.
2. Click SELECTIVE STARTUP and then uncheck LOAD STARTUP GROUP ITEMS.
3. Apply the changes and reboot the computer when prompted.
4. Uninstall MediaSource from the system using ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS.
5. Manually delete the MediaSource folders from the computer system :
C:\PROGRAM FILES\CREATIVE\MEDIASOURCE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\CREATIVE\CTCDDB
C:\PROGRAM FILES\CREATIVE\MEDIA MANAGER
C:\MEDIA\MUSIC
6. Right-click your My Computer icon and click Properties.
7. Click the Hardware tab and then click Device Manager.
8. Remove any listings for Creative NOMAD products in the Device
Manager
(they will most likely be located in the Uni'versal Serial Bus
Controllers category).
9. If you have a category call Other Devices, look for listings in
there
called USB Device. If you have any, remove them.
0. Install MediaSource only from the original installation CD.
NOTE: DO NOT OPEN MEDIASOURCE WHILE PERFORMING THESE PROCEDURES.
Also, you can try reloading the Zen Micro's firmware through recovery
mode.
Move and hold the Power button to the Power On position and re-insert
the battery to the Zen Micro. Hold the Power button until the rescue
mode appears.
Clean Up: Performs a disk scan on the players hard disk
Format: Formats the players hard disk All contents will be lost
Reload OS: Reloads the Operating System on the Jukebox. Do not select
this option unless you have downloaded the firmware. Reloading your OS
will not effect the contents of the files stored on your Jukebox Zen
Reboot: Reboots the device
Please attempt the options 'Reboot' and 'Clean Up' first. If they do
not
help, you must try 'Reload OS'. To do this, you must have a downloaded
firmware from our website ready. Please let us know the results after
these steps, as soon as possible.
For faster service please reply with previous correspondence when
replying to this email.
Best Regards,
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas
"Get Creative"
I followed the directions, but 3 of the folders listed in step 5 didn?t exist (only C:\PROGRAM FILES\CREATIVE\MEDIASOURCE did), there were no Creative NOMAD products listed as in step 8, and there was no ?Other Devices? as stated in step 9. I did everything else for all the steps through step 0.
I then re-installed Creative MediaSource from the CD only to find it still didn?t recognize my player! I?ve now done this twice with the same results!
Zen Micro Media Explorer doesn?t even recognize my Micro when it'ss plugged in! It just keeps saying ?The device is not connected. Please connect your Zen Micro to the computer?.
I?m hardly a tech expert, but it seems to me that something on my PC is detecting my player and decieding for itself that the only 2 programs it will let manage my Zen Micro are Napster and Windows Media Player. If this is the case where do I go from here?!?!
Moderator Note: Removed the name of the Email Advisor. Please do this in the future when posting email responses from Creative.Message Edited by Jason-CL on 07-2-2005 02:05 PM

LakeTahoeGuy,
Just as SSR mention, if you're using v2.xx.xx (MTP) firmware then you will need to get the correct version of Media Explorer that support this firmware and also install the MTP plugin for MediaSource. Both the software and plugin are available from the site SSR mention.
Jason

I've installed firmware for my zen micro, now i can't use my creative software! Please he

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Hello,
I've had my Zen Micro (Green) for 3 weeks now and now my girlfriend wants one a Zen Micro too, which she'll get in the next few days. I was wondering if there's any way to transfer mp3s from my Zen Micro to hers?
I was thinking if I plugged 2 Zen Micros into my PC and then load up the Nm=oman Player and just drag the songs from one Zen Micro to another......will that work. Or is it best to just drat the songs onto the PC and then transfer them onto my Girlfriend's Zen?

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krw99 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I had considered the possibility that the battery may indeed be at the end of it's life. As it turned out I also googled the model and battery name, and came up with a Canadian site that had?them on ?sale and decided that with postage it would be just as cheap as getting it'sdirectly from?the US with higher postage costs and the exchange rate. I love this model so much I hope to keep using it for years to come provided I have no further more costly problems. Despite it's greater thickness compared to similiar models it is a very attracti've looking unit.
The reason I chose?the Zen Micro?in the first place, as opposed to an iPod?was because I could replace the battery if need be, and also for it's FM radio capability. I?did have to have the chip that contains the earphone jack connections replaced last year, as many other owners have also had to do. But it was worth the $60 it cost me.
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Creative zen micro working with itunes.

for i long time i have been using the musiclibrary organisation tool provided by creative... and i have been satisfied...
but last week i discovered itunes... for all i know itunes was originally for apple products only (such as the ipod)... but i read various articles concerning this topic... and i found out that some people believe that it is possible to work with itunes and the zen mico... and here is the point: "How can i tell itunes to work with my great player zen micro?"
just to make sure that there is no offense... i liked the creative tool very much, but from my point of view itunes has got a tiny lead in inconsiderable details...
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Zach,
Have you try the legacy driver in this post before with WMP9? Although the Micro Photo player isn't listed in the list, other forum member has posted success with the driver so if you haven't try it yet might as well give it a try.
Jason

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