Cash Discount after Tax & VAT
Hi , Friends,
My client has a scenario where in some purchase orders , he receives the discount after tax.
when I add the discount (absolute) after tax in the m/08 , the net price changes and the tax is calculated on this new net price which is wrong & not required .
Friends tell me what chnages I need to do so that discount is calculated after Tax & VAt and the ideally what should be the accounting entries in MIGO and MIRO.
if the gross price is Rs 100
tax is Rs 10
and discount is Rs 5.
Thanks in advance
Hi Dgn,
What type of industry sector your client belongs to. But as a standard practise, cash discounts are captured before adopting the Tax or VAT through Invoice.
We will calculate the accounts payable:
Usually below is the scenario for taking the discounts from the vendor in the process of purchaing:
will take your given figures/values:
Eg. (1)
Total gross price: 100.00 INR (as per your client)
Discount: 5.00 INR (-ve)
95.00 INR
then adopt, Tax (10%): 9.50 INR (10% on gross ( = 9.50 INR) : goes to govt. for tax depart.
that means, the total amount: 85.50 INR payable to the vendor (A/P)
But, where as in your case /as per client,
(2)
Taking your eg. Total gross price: 100.00 INR (as per your client)
Tax amount: (10%) 10.00 INR (10% on gross = 10 INR) : goes to govt. for tax depart.
110.00 INR
then taking, Discount: 5.00 INR (-ve)
that means, the total amount: 105.00 INR payable to the vendor (A/P)
(1): 85.5 INR < (2) : 105.00 INR
So, in 2nd scenario, your client has to pay more to their vendors & also more tax in the process of purchasing compare to the usually procedure (1). Other wise your client has to pay extra 20.00 INR. Hence option 1 is the rightone.
Pls check with your client again and suggest them further.
Hope you understood.
Regards,
Sapsrin.
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If old bills are cleared within 0 days............4%, 0-3 days......2.5%, 3-7 days.......1% discounts are given,
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SKTV - Cash Discount before Tax
SKTO Cash Discount after tax.
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We have the below requirement, Vendor is giving the discount After Taxes & before calculating the VAT. How to meet this requirement ?
Right now i have created a condn type & added in tax procedure, But not able to meet the requirement.
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SAP Note 48384 - Cash discount is taken although item overdue
Note Language: English Version: 4 Validity: Valid Since 20.02.1997
Summary
Symptom
Vendor invoice is paid with cash discount by the payment program
although the cash discount period has expired, the "Always max. cash
discount" flag in configuration Payment program is not set and no cash
discount agreement is noted in the document either.
Additional key words
F110, payment run
Cause and prerequisites
If in the terms of payment only, for example, 10 days 3 % and nothing else has been defined (further fields are not filled at all), the payment program has no instructions as to how the payment is to be made if the first cash discount period has expired. Nevertheless, the payment is made with cash discount terms 1 under these circumstances.
Solution
Choose other terms of payment.
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 19.02.1997 23:00:00
Master Language: German
Priority: Correction with medium priority
Category: Consulting
Primary Component FI-AP Accounts Payable
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How to do this? Please guide.
Thanx in advance.
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Edited by: Raga on Apr 7, 2010 12:18 PM -
Hello,
I need some info on cash discounts.
I understand that cash discounts are applicable to the customer after he makes the payment. We issue credit memo.
But i dont understand the link b/n cash dicount conditon type (say SKTO/SKTV and payment terms )
How the cash discounts are linked to payment terms?
Whats the setting done for this?
Could some one answer this?
Regards,
KrishnaCash discount means the rate of cash discount.
Where do you find the details of how much cash discount to be given to the customer ?
It is stored in the "Payment Term".
Any organisation has got its Payment Term or Terms of Payment for the business.
For example,suppose to-day you have purchased some goods from me and I have a payment term in my organisation like below,
If you are paying me within 7 days,then you are eligible for 5% cash discount.
If you are paying me within 15 days, then you will get 2% cash discount.After this no cash discount and 30 days is the maximum credit days and within 30 days if you are not paying me , then I will charge suppose 20% interest on the amount from the 31st day onwards.
System gets this information regarding the Cash discount, from this Payment Term.
For Cash discount , there is a special condition type "SKTO". This is a statistical condition type. Condition type SKTO retrieves the cash discount rate to be given, from the Payment Term.
Condition type SKTO does not have any access sequence and its finds out the cash discount rate from the payment in the Table "T052" (in this table all cash discounts are stored).
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Take a copy of RA01 in M/06 as YA01(as Discount) and keep it as following;
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Please guide me for the following scenario.
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