Character Set Settings Affecting CSV Upload

Hi,
We have a production issue that I need a little help with. Using one of the examples listed here I have created a csv upload and on our dev box its works fine however on production we have a problem on production.
The database is set to WE8ISO8859P1 character set but for some reason the web browser on production keeps changing it to UTF8 so for some of the characters it uploads are incorrect e.g. £ becomes Â£
I'm guessing this may be a set up issue as on dev this does not happen but I've ran out of things to check.
Automatic CSV Encoding is set to Yes on both envirnments
The following select returns WE8ISO8859P1 on both environments
select value$ charset, 'sys.props$' source from sys.props$ where name='NLS_CHARACTERSET' ;
select property_value, 'database_properties' from database_properties where property_name='NLS_CHARACTERSET' ;
select value, 'nls_database_parameters' from nls_database_parameters where parameter='NLS_CHARACTERSET';
I have limited access to the system but what else can I check
Thanks inadvance

Hi Andy,
1) You say that "you have created a csv upload". What does this mean?
2) How are you loading data? Is it through Application Express -> Utilities -> Data Load? Or is this something you've built into your own application?
3) What is the encoding of the CSV file you're using to upload data?
Automatic CSV Encoding only impacts CSV download from reports. It has nothing to do with data loading.
Joel

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login
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Starting up:
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing options.
ORACLE_HOME = /u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/11.2.0
System name: SunOS
Node name: proddb3.zakathouse.org
Release: 5.10
Version: Generic_147440-19
Machine: sun4u
Using parameter settings in server-side spfile /u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/11.2.0/dbs/spfilePROD.ora
System parameters with non-default values:
processes = 200
sessions = 400
timed_statistics = TRUE
event = ""
shared_pool_size = 416M
shared_pool_reserved_size= 40M
nls_language = "american"
nls_territory = "america"
nls_sort = "binary"
nls_date_format = "DD-MON-RR"
nls_numeric_characters = ".,"
nls_comp = "binary"
nls_length_semantics = "BYTE"
memory_target = 11G
memory_max_target = 12G
control_files = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/apps_st/data/cntrl01.dbf"
control_files = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/10.2.0/dbs/cntrl02.dbf"
control_files = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/apps_st/data/cntrl03.dbf"
db_block_checksum = "TRUE"
db_block_size = 8192
compatible = "11.2.0.0.0"
log_archive_dest_1 = "LOCATION=/u01/oracle/PROD/db/apps_st/data/archive"
log_archive_format = "%t_%s_%r.dbf"
log_buffer = 14278656
log_checkpoint_interval = 100000
log_checkpoint_timeout = 1200
db_files = 512
db_file_multiblock_read_count= 8
db_recovery_file_dest = "/u01/oracle/fast_recovery_area"
db_recovery_file_dest_size= 14726M
log_checkpoints_to_alert = TRUE
dml_locks = 10000
undo_management = "AUTO"
undo_tablespace = "APPS_UNDOTS1"
db_block_checking = "FALSE"
session_cached_cursors = 500
utl_file_dir = "/usr/tmp"
utl_file_dir = "/usr/tmp"
utl_file_dir = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/10.2.0/appsutil/outbound"
utl_file_dir = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/10.2.0/appsutil/outbound/PROD_proddb3"
utl_file_dir = "/usr/tmp"
plsql_code_type = "INTERPRETED"
plsql_optimize_level = 2
job_queue_processes = 2
cursor_sharing = "EXACT"
parallel_min_servers = 0
parallel_max_servers = 8
core_dump_dest = "/u01/oracle/PROD/db/tech_st/10.2.0/admin/PROD_proddb3/cdump"
audit_file_dest = "/u01/oracle/admin/PROD/adump"
db_name = "PROD"
open_cursors = 600
pga_aggregate_target = 1G
workarea_size_policy = "AUTO"
optimizer_secure_view_merging= FALSE
aq_tm_processes = 1
olap_page_pool_size = 4M
diagnostic_dest = "/u01/oracle"
max_dump_file_size = "20480"
Tue Jan 15 16:16:02 2013
PMON started with pid=2, OS id=18608
Tue Jan 15 16:16:02 2013
PSP0 started with pid=3, OS id=18610
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
VKTM started with pid=4, OS id=18612 at elevated priority
VKTM running at (10)millisec precision with DBRM quantum (100)ms
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
GEN0 started with pid=5, OS id=18616
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
DIAG started with pid=6, OS id=18618
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
DBRM started with pid=7, OS id=18620
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
DIA0 started with pid=8, OS id=18622
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
MMAN started with pid=9, OS id=18624
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
DBW0 started with pid=10, OS id=18626
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
LGWR started with pid=11, OS id=18628
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
CKPT started with pid=12, OS id=18630
Tue Jan 15 16:16:03 2013
SMON started with pid=13, OS id=18632
Tue Jan 15 16:16:04 2013
RECO started with pid=14, OS id=18634
Tue Jan 15 16:16:04 2013
MMON started with pid=15, OS id=18636
Tue Jan 15 16:16:04 2013
MMNL started with pid=16, OS id=18638
DISM started, OS id=18640
ORACLE_BASE from environment = /u01/oracle
Tue Jan 15 16:16:08 2013
ALTER DATABASE MOUNT
ORA-12709 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE MOUNT...

ORA-12709 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE MOUNT...Do you have any trace files generated at the time you get this error?
Please see these docs.
ORA-12709: WHILE STARTING THE DATABASE [ID 1076156.6]
Upgrading from 9i to 10gR2 Fails With ORA-12709 : Error While Loading Create Database Character Set [ID 732861.1]
Ora-12709 While Trying To Start The Database [ID 311035.1]
ORA-12709 when Mounting the Database [ID 160478.1]
How to Move From One Database Character Set to Another at the Database Level [ID 1059300.6]
Thanks,
Hussein

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