J1IS in subcontracting with full payment of excise duty
hi
Can u tell me please
In subcontracting with full payment of excise duty I have created PO,sent material to stock provided to vendor (541).while creating outgoing excise invoice with referance to material doc.(MATD)
i am getting following error.
GL account has not been assigned for MSUSP in customization
Message no. 8I447
Diagnosis
GL account has not been assigned for the excise a/c in customization
I am not getting where to assign G/L
Reg
Roc
hi
please check this customization setting
Logistics - General --> Tax on Goods Movements --> India -->Account Determination
Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction &
Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
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Subcontract with full payment of excise duty
hi gurus
Can any one provide me itutor link of subcontract with full payment of excise duty,import cycle,import under custom bonded ware house
Thanks in advance
Rochi
This is a subcontracting under full payment of duty scenario.
Refer this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Subcontracting Under Full Payment of Duty
Purpose
This procedure illustrates how you use the system to send materials to your subcontractors for processing using normal excise invoices.
Prerequisites
You have created a condition type for manually entering excise duty in the subcontract order. In the standard system, you can use condition type JEXC, maintain in pricing procedure.
Process Flow...
1. Create a
tract order for the subcontractoru2019s services.Enter excise manually in the condition type JEXC & take a tax code for VAT calculation.
2. Do the transfer posting for the materials that you want to send to the subcontractor.
3. Create an outgoing excise invoice for the materials by J1IS & J1IV.
4. You send the materials to the subcontractor, together with the excise invoice.
5. The subcontractor processes the materials and returns them to you, together with another excise invoice.
6. Captures the subcontractoru2019s excise invoice, using the purchase order as the reference document.
7. Do the goods receipt & refer excise invoice in excsie tab.
8. Posts excise invoice.
9. The accounts payable clerk posts the subcontractoru2019s invoice.
for imports
Import scenario
To map Import procedure into SAP , follow the following steps :
1.Create material master of import goods.
2.Create vendor master record of import vendor and Customs clearing vendor.
3.Maintain CIN settings.
4.Maintain J1id.
5.Maintain Pricing procedure SAP standard JIMPOR..,maintain required conditions..JCDB,JCV1...
6.Assign the schema to respective import vendor in Purchasing view of VMR.
7.Create import PO ,check in conditions of JCDB, JCV1 the customs clearing vendor(Indian vendor) and percentage is assigned..This can be done by In condition tab select condtion then click on display,then enter.
Save the PO.
8.MIRO --Capture Bill Of Entry.(Commercial Invoice No.,).Customs clearing first .Here CVD will b converted to BED.
9.Capture Excisse invoice--j1iex.
10.MIGO.
12.Post Excise Invoice.
13.MIRO...Payment to vendor(import vendor)
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_01/helpdata/en/95/3ca40a110511d4b5ae006094b9ec21/frameset.htm
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Subcontracting with full payment of excise duty
Hello friends,
Can u plz give the complete configuration details for setting up Subcontracting with full payment of excise duty, Cenvat, Edcess.
PurushothamHi,
Process Flow for Sub contracting with Excise duty
1)The purchasing clerk creates a subcontract order for the subcontractors srvices.
2)The warehouseman creates a transfer posting for the materials that you want to send to the subcontractor.
3)The excise clerk creates an outgoing excise invoice for the materials.
4)You send the materials to the subcontractor, together with the excise invoice.
5)The subcontractor processes the materials and returns them to you, together with another excise invoice.
6)The excise clerk captures the subcontractors excise invoice, using the purchase order as the reference document.
7)The warehouseman enters the goods receipt.
8)The excise supervisor posts excise invoice.
The accounts payable clerk posts the subcontractors invoice.
For this one only u require Account dtermination for ETT for OTHER in Logistic general-Tax on goods movement-India-Account determianation.
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Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
HI
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) --
Capture Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods (MIGO or J1IEX)
Post Excise Invoice (J1IEX)
in order to process the abve prcess , pls advise what are the preequiestes??? where we need to use JEXC cond type?Hello,
You create a subcontracting PO. Create a Transfer Posting document for 541. This 541 doc can then be used to create an EI through J1IS.
On receiving the goods back from the subcontractor you have to use the option "Only part 1" or even no excise entry at MIGO. the reason for this is to avoid wrong updation of 543 O movement in part 1 table.
You may then update part 1 for 101 through J1I5 and then create Excise Invoice with reference to the GR document. If you see two line items one for the output and the component, you should delete the component from the incoming EI creation screen in J1IEX.
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Job Work with Payment of Excise Duty
Dear Gurus,
We have done full process of job work without payment of excise duty. but we also want job work with payment of excise duty. we didn't found any way to do this job.
When we make subcontracting entry with 541 mvt type and then make its excise challan with J1IF01, the all field related to excise value is disable thats why we can not put the value in it.
Please suggest something.
Regards
Pawan SardaHi
As per my knowledge,If you are sending your material with full excise value to your subcontracting vendor means its one type of saleing
Here you are sending material material with excise duty means its sure you dont get back your material in 180 days ,so while doing finsihed material your vendor will send finsihded material along excise value and you will capture tha excise value
I think In this scenario subcontracting Challan don't come in Picture
steps are follows
subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
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Diffrential payment of Excise Duty
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1. We had to pay excise e.g. 100 Rs, but paid Rs.90. How to pay Rs. 10 difference from SAP.
In J1IH which transaction type we have to select and how should be G/L's set up for that.
How the business will inform excise authorities about the diffrential payment made, since there is no new excise number generated in J1IH.
Thanks in advance.
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RaghuHi,
Differential excise duty can be updated in system,
through J1IH - Other adjustment.
(a)Doc N0: It can be with reference to Orginal Excise no.
(b)Doc year
(c) Company Code
(d) Plant
(e) Excise Group
(f) Subtranscation Type: is optional
Select Fortnightly Payment. and Enter.
In the next screen you can update the Excise,Ed.Cess,Hr.Sec and save. The post will automatically get posted to ED payable account.
At the end of month, while doing utilisation the system will also consider the above JV amount also.
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Purchase order report with basic price and Excise duty values
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Is there any standard report in SAP to get the Purchase order basic price / qty and its Excise duty values ? Since we are including Excise duties for non - codified items (w/o material master and with cost center 'K') Purchase order and the ed values are added to the cost and the requirement is to see the split up (Basic priceEdEcs+Hcs)for these Purchase orders for the vendors. If there is no std report then please let me know how to link Purchase order table with this Condition value table in query to get the desired report.
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there is no standert report to fullfill this requierment
you have to create this report with the help of abaer
for that which tax code you are using its importnat thing
for po table EKPO
1. A524 (Normal supply point / Material) it will return condition record number for condition type.
2. KONP (Conditions (Item)) .
3. J_1IMTCHID (Combination of Material Number and Chapter ID).
4. J_1IEXCTAX (Tax calc. - Excise tax rates
5 get the IR no. from RBKP and RSEG, and get the relevant FI doc no. and goto BSET table
for IR number to get from table apply logic for doc type RE ,you will get fi number nad in refernce field you will get invoice number + fiscal year
Map this by refernig on po for which grn and invoice happen
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How to re-capture excise duty which is issue aginst subcontract PO
Hi,
I have made a Subcontract PO with item category as L, with full payment of excise duty in subcontract there are two BOM component, then i have done MB1B ref. to MB1B document number excise invoice created with J1IS for the raw materials which we have supplied, as in case of subcontract with full payment of excise duty there is no need to create subcontract challn now I have made the GR for finish product, now how to capture the excise duty back when I ma trying to J1IEX capture excise inovice ref. to GR or PO it is showing me only finish material in the J1IEX not the RM, as the excise duty is on the RM only not on Finish product in vendor PO tax is as labour chagres only.
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zafarHi
I wan to put some basic things here
1) when you send material to vendor with excise duty ,then vendor will take credit of that material ( your child material)
2) After processing your child material vendor will send final material only not child material
so how you will capture incoming excise for component which already consume by vendor?
second thing if you received excise invoice from your vendor for final product then check that invoice you will get only Final material name and qty, there not child material with excise if am not wrong
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Sub-contracting with excise duty..?
Hi all
can anybody explain me the sub-contracting process with excise duty , here we are going create excise invoice(J1IS instead of sub-contract challan) and what abt material document for sending out materials
whether v an use excise invoice as material transfer document to jobber place or what.
Please explain me with example ..
Regards
sap-mmhi ,
you can try:
1.Do the MB1A with 202 mvt type to get back the material from the Work location Cost center to Storage location.
2.Create the Subcontracting PO without payment of excise duty ie., with subcontracting challan. Here the components provided to the vendor & material at item overview should be the same.
3.Do the MB1B - 541 Mvt type transfer posting.
4.Create the subcontracting challan w r t material doc by J1IF01
5.Do the MIGO for SC PO.
6.Reconcile the SC Challan.
7.If the qty is fully reconciled then you can complete the challan.
8.Do the LIV for SC PO.
9.Do the MB1A with 201 MVT type to issue the material to the Work location. -
REVERESE SUBCONTRACTING WITH EXCISE DUTY
Job Work done by Client with excise duty
Business Process,
Raw material got from the Customer & it is processed by Client finished goods are made the same will be delivered to the Customer with excise duty.
Details:
1 Sales order will be created with the details of raw materials that customer agreed to give & finished product that customer need after getting the P.O from the customer.
2 Customer will send the material with excise invoice (paid by customer).
3 Client receives the material post the customer excise invoice with part-1 & part-2 entry in the RG23A register.i.e Cenvat credit taken by Client for the customer material.
4 The received Raw material processed by Client converted to finished product with RG1 entry.
5 Finished send to the customer with excise duty paid by Client
6 As excise duty liability is with Client every month excise duty difference between credit taken & paid is settled with customer.
E.g. For August month
Cenvat credit taken for raw materials Rs-10000
Excise duty paid by the Client Rs-50000
Difference to be paid by the customer to Client is Rs-40000
Pl guide me how to map this process in cin
Regards
Umapathy.MHai,
The pre requisties for this scenario in CIN part is
1. Create the input raw material with UNBW material type.
2. Create the customer as a vendor.
3. Maintain the input material in J1ID with material type raw material & chapter ID.
4. Maintain the excise details for this vendor with excise indicator.
5.Maintain the assessable value for this material in J1ID. This has to be flow for excise calculation.
6.Maintain the excise tax rates for the Chapter id in J1ID.
7.Mainain the 501 Mvt type in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Business transactions - Incoming excise invoices - specify which mvt type involves excise invoices.
8.Maintain the settings for register entries & GL accts in Acct determination in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Acct determination for the excise transaction type EWPO.
The steps involves are
1.Create a sale order with excise tax code conditions for the processed fininshed product.
2.Do the MIGO with other receipt for 501 Mvt type to receive the raw material. Capture the excise invoice in the MIGO itself.
3.Post the excise invoice by J1IEX.
4.Do the process with PP cycle.
5.Send the finished product with SD route.
6.Do the Billing & outgoing excise invoice.
7.The SD Pricing procedure has to be configured as per the requirement.
8.Check the accting entries at the Customer acct. -
Hi,
Wanted subcontracting configuration with CIN.
Please helpHi,
Subcontracting Process
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS)
- Capture Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
- Post Excise Invoice (J1IEX)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
Note: - Excise Transactions need to be performed only if it is applicable.
Hi,
Refer link;
[Subcontracting Process w/o Payment of Excise Duty|http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/BBLibrary/Documentation/J85_BPP_V2_EN_IN.doc]
Subcontracting Process
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
Configuration: -
- Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here maintain as following;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
57FC CR PLABED
57FC CR RG23BED
57FC CR RG23ECS
57FC DR CLEAR
57FC 01 CR PLABED
57FC 01 CR RG23AT1
57FC 01 CR RG23BED
57FC 01 CR RG23ECS
57FC 01 DR CLEAR
57NR CR CLEAR
57NR CR PLABED
57NR CR RG23BED
57NR CR RG23ECS
57NR DR REVERS
57NR 01 CR CLEAR
57NR 01 CR PLABED
57NR 01 CR RG23BED
57NR 01 CR RG23ECS
57NR 01 DR REVERS
- And then go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here do Account Determination for the above combination and Excise Group
Apart from above also do following configuration for Subcontracting;
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes
Here maintain following;
Excise Group XX
Excise TT 57FC
Subtransaction Type 01
Subtran Type Text 57FC CHALLAN
Subc. Period 180
Rate-subcontracting
Mvt Grp Issues 0001
Mvt Grp Receipt 0002
Filter Non exise
EI Items 10
No. range no. 01
***. Val. /Exc Inv
Subcon Output Type J1IF
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups
Here maintain following
MVT. Grp. MvT S
0001 101 O
0001 541 O
0002 542
0002 542 O
0002 543 O
- J1I9 - maintain No range for object "J_1I57FC" for series group -
Excise duty in Subconrtacting with components from another plant
Dear SAP Gurus,
I have a typical scenario in subcontracting. I have a company code 0001 which has 2 plants 1000 & 2000.
Plant 2000 creates subcontracting PO against vendor XYZ for FG with Excise duty.
However plant 1000 issues the component which is excisable Material.
Just to summarise the component issued from plant 1000 is excisable & FG to be received from Sub contractor in Plant 2000 is also excisable.
Kindly guide.
RegardsHi
For plant 100
1) Create a sub PO
2) Issue the material th MB1B 541
3) Create a excise invoice in J1IS reference document is step 2 doc.No need to create a Subcontracting challan as the excise Invoice would serve as a Legal document
Account entries will be
ED Suspense Dr
ED Payable Cr
ETT OTHR will be called
4) Recieve the material in MIGO
5) MIRO for processing charges only
For plant 2000
1) Create a sub PO with Excise duty
2) Issue the material th MB1B 541 create a subcontracting challan in J1IF01 -No excise duty
3) GR and J1IEX -For capturing and posting Excise duty
Acc Entry
ED Recievable Dr
ED Clearing Cr
4) MIRO for processing charged and Excise duties
Regards
Sandeep -
Problem with Excise Duty tax calcualtion in Invoice
Hi experts,
Need your rexpert advise on the below issue.
We have MM invoice where by the tax is not calucalted correctly.
The Material is subject to excise duty, on the GR the excise invoice is getting generated with Cenvat clering account with correct amount towards excise duty
i.e. GR is done for amount - 52951.33 and corresponding Tax code is KE(10% excise duty, 3% Ecess and 2% CST) which comes correctly as 6214.73 approximately which is correct in case of GR
But however when the Invoice is posted for corresponding GR, the amount of tax calculated is only 1307.50, which should have been 6214.73 as the amount on the GR.
We really are not able to find out why their is diffrences in the calculation of excise duty.
Request your expert advise on this regard.
Thanks.
Shahid.System will fetch the duties from J_1IGRXREF table into MIRO transaction. So firstly check whether duties are correctly updated for the respective Excise invoice in the said table.
Secondly ensure you have selected the correct tax code in MIRO same as PO tax code. There may be a chance that user had changed the tax code after posting the GRN in the Purchase order.
Finally check whether the condition records are valid for the selected tax code in FV13 transaction code and are not set to deleted. -
Manual Excise duty with fixed amount in Sales order
Dear Sir/Madam.,
This is regarding manual excise duty with fixed amount in SD Module . I
have created three conditon type ZEXP,ZECS,ZA1X for BED ,CESS and HSED for manual excise duty with fixed amount, other than the standard condition type JEXP,JECS,JA1X , because my TRADING SALE scenario needs both condition type with fixed percentage and fixed amount conditions also. After the pricing procedure updation for trading sale, I have tried to create the sale invoice with VF01 , it is ok till the VF01 for manual excise duty but when ever I tried to excise posting with J1IIN. the manual excise duty show only zero, whiile we used the standard Condition type JEXP, JECS, AND JA1X with fixed percentage 8% -2% -1% our over all steps are ok till J1IIN for excise invoice, mean BED ,CESS and HSED shown correctly.
I have done some experiment with the TAXINN tax procedure in (Logistics general > tax on good movments> india> basic settting>determination of excise duty> Maintain excise default), I have replaced the condition types JEXP, JECS and JA1X with the ZEXP, ZECS and ZA1X in the corresponding filed. then after my manual excise duty with fixed amount data was reflecting
in the J1IIN and it start to work properly with the excise duty but my fixed percentage condition type stop to working mean, it was now showing the duty at the time of excise duty posting J1IIN .
I want to use both the condition types in the same TRADING SALE scenario. May anybody help me to solve this issue.
With Regard
Vijay KumarDear Mr. Siva,
Sorry for the late reply, actually I was out of touch from this issue for few days. I am sending you the detail about my configuration----
I have assigned this condition type as following ...
TAXINN ZA1X A/R AT1 Quantity based
TAXINN ZECS A/R Cess Quantity Based
TAXINN ZEXP A/R BED Quantity based
Condition type information
Control data 1
Cond. class D Taxes
Calculat.type Q Commodity
Cond.category D Tax
Rounding rule Commercia
StrucCond.
Change which can be made---
Manual entries C Manual entry has priority
Still it is not showing the duty at the time of (J1IIN)
It may be I am missing some configuration or wrong configuration.
give me some hints...
thank you
Vijay -
REVERSE SUBCONTRACTIN WITH EXCISE DUTY
Job Work done by Client with excise duty
Business Process,
Raw material got from the Customer & it is processed by Client finished goods are made the same will be delivered to the Customer with excise duty.
Details:
1 Sales order will be created with the details of raw materials that customer agreed to give & finished product that customer need after getting the P.O from the customer.
2 Customer will send the material with excise invoice (paid by customer).
3 Client receives the material post the customer excise invoice with part-1 & part-2 entry in the RG23A register.i.e Cenvat credit taken by Client for the customer material.
4 The received Raw material processed by Client converted to finished product with RG1 entry.
5 Finished send to the customer with excise duty paid by Client
6 As excise duty liability is with Client every month excise duty difference between credit taken & paid is settled with customer.
E.g. For August month
Cenvat credit taken for raw materials Rs-10000
Excise duty paid by the Client Rs-50000
Difference to be paid by the customer to Client is Rs-40000
How to map this process in CIN
Regards
UMAPATHY.M,
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