Mail.app and Netscape Messaging Server v3.6

We are trying to track down performance issues with Mail.app in both Tiger and Panther. Issues include how long it takes to download large attachments (PDFs upwards of 10MB), how long it takes to synchronize and cache, and other things that appear in Mail's activity window and never go away. Downloading large attachments puts a large CPU load on our mail server. We are looking at all variables -- switches, network configs, local client settings, etc. We are on a switched network with a mix of Gig and 100BT to the desktops. But my question here is: What might be the advantage of upgrading to a newer mail server? Our Netscape 3.6 software is very old, but the Sun hardware it lives on had a CPU upgrade last year. Even though the IMAP protocol itself has been pretty stable for years, would we find newer platforms more efficient with modern needs such as large attachments and inboxes that receive dozens of messages a day?

Wow, this is dusting off the cobwebs. NS 3.X has a different format for mail message, the IMAP data is contained in the first 400 bytes (or so) of the message file. So sending them through the deliver program is not an option, unless you strip the bytes off.
When you ran upgrade on an individual user, did you first remove the 4.15 mailbox with mboxutil -d?

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Delete emails on Mail.app and remain on gmail server

Hello,
I have 128 GB HDD and many emails syncing by Gmail IMAP. Thousands of emails are stored on my HDD and most of them I will never use in the future. Despite this I'd like to keep them in gmail server, just for case...
I was trying to reduce size of my Mail.app for very long time and nothing works correctly.
Ideal situation would be something like this:
E-mails older than 2 months will automatically delete from Mail.app but not from server. Or it doesn't have to be automatic, but I have to keep them on gmail.com. I'm not sure if it is possible with IMAP.
Please, do you have some experience with this problem?
Thanks,
Jan

Hi jvaclavik,
Mail that is kept in an IMAP account will show in your mail account on the Mac but it stays on the server. See this article -
iCloud: IMAP
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2585
You may want to use the Mac OS X Mail Archive feature, described here -
Mail (Mavericks): Archive messages
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14894
Gmail has its own Archive feature, described here -
iOS: Understanding Gmail Archive
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4207
Though the article is in support of iOS devices, the archive feature applies to Macs as well.
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
Best,
Brett L

How to configure Symantec Mail Security for SMTP & Messaging Server 6.3

Hi!
I want to install a Symantec Mail Security for SMTP 5.0.1(host1) with Messaging Server 6.3 (in production - host2), but when I try to access to POP protocol to send a message from Internet, the system display a message with a relay problem.
- Could you help me with this issue?,
- Do you know some documentation that speaks of this?. I can't find any documentation that explain how to configure and integrate SMS and Messaging Server. Thanks in advance.
Regards, CR

ctemp1 wrote:
I want to install a Symantec Mail Security for SMTP 5.0.1(host1) with Messaging Server 6.3 (in production - host2), but when I try to access to POP protocol to send a message from Internet, the system display a message with a relay problem.I take it that you have configured the symantec software like this?
internet -> symantec mail security system -> sun messaging server -> recipientA better approach is the following
internet -> sun messaging server -> recipient
                          |
                         V
              symantec mail security system(refer here: http://blogs.sun.com/factotum/entry/messaging_server_correctly_deploying_the)
- Do you know some documentation that speaks of this?. I can't find any documentation that explain how to configure and integrate SMS and Messaging Server. Thanks in advance.There is no documentation specifically for symantec software but we do document how to send emails via the symantec mail security server using the aliasdetourhost channel keyword:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-4428/6n6j42615?a=view#bgaqy
Regards,
Shane.

Is there a possibility by which i can configure Netscape Messaging server as a POP server.

I'm running Netscape Messaging server on Solaris 8 is there a provision to configure the NMS as a POP server.SO user's could download the mail through mail clients like Outlook express.

Which version is it? Netscape 4.x or Iplanet 5.x? In both cases the information to configure your mailrelay server as a pop3-server is contained in the administration guide. There you can find everything there is to know about pop3. And it is a lot...
The manuals can be found on the internet: www.iplanet.com.
Good luck.
Paul

Using .mac with mail.app and iphone...problems with mailbox folders i think

Is it normal in mail.app for my folders to be as follows: Under the heading Mailboxes, I have Inbox folder and Sent folder and trash folder. Then, instead of a junk folder under that, it is below all of that under the heading Chris's Email (obviously my account). Why is this?

Who is your ISP used for connecting to the internet?
Are you also accessing an email account and SMTP server that is provided by your ISP with the Mail.app and if so, are you able to send messages with your ISP's email account?
Most if not all ISPs used for connecting to the internet now block the use of SMTP servers that are outside of their network (or not provided by the ISP) on Port 25 which is the default port for SMTP servers.
Some ISPs allow the use of an authenticated SMTP server only (such as the .Mac SMTP server) on Port 25 but some block its use regardless.
These restructions are in place as part of an overall effort to prevent spam emanating from the ISP's domain.
First thing to try.
Go to Mail > Preferences > Accounts and under the Account Information tab for your .Mac account preferences at the SMTP server selection, select the Server Settings button below the the .Mac SMTP server.
Enter 587 in place of 25 in the Server Port field and when finished, select OK to save the changed setting.
If this doesn't work, you need to contact your ISP. If you are accessing an email account and SMTP server that is provided by your ISP used for connecting to the internet with the Mail.app, in the interim select/use your ISP's SMTP server to send messages with your .Mac account which is invisible to all recipients.

Mail.app and Exchange issue

Hello. I have 7 exchange accounts (45,000 letters in them) in my mail.app and every day i have a problem that mail.app delete all messages and start downloading it form server. Can any one help me with this problem.
p.s. on the other macbook i have 1 exchage account with 18.000 messages and it works fine.
Is this problem because to many exchange accounts or to many messages or because i use VPN for take mail from this accounts? Help me please.

I can't even get the Exchange Mailbox to appear in Mail.app. The same account works for Calendar and Reminders (Tasks). Configuring as an "Other" type account also does not work. Instead I end up with an IMAP style account that can't be deleted from mail.app.

Can I remove Mail.app and retain Thunderbird functionality?

MacBook Pro 15" Retina, 500g drive, 8g ram. VM with Parallels 8/Win7 and Bootcamp with the identical Win 7 installation.
Nearly two months after receiving my lovely MacBook in October last year, my Mail app quit receiving mail. I could send, but nothing came in. Pop3 accounts on digital cable service.
I asked about it here and was answered with the recommendation to use Thunderbird. No looking back, it's great. I have used it before on Win XP long ago, but didn't have server based e-mail accounts then so I used it as the prime client on a Toshiba machine. Since then, I have started a website and am allowed ten e-mail accounts so I just go to the server or use Thunderbird. Thunderbird out of convenience, and the server if I am not at home on my network. I won't go into it here. A Charter Communications issue.
So, here is the question, and the subject asks the same thing. Can I remove Mail.app from my machine and retain functionality in Thunderbird? Additionally, can I remove Mail.app and reinstall it from here if I desire to test it or end up with issues if I do remove it?
The reason I want to do this is due to clicking on e-mail links and having Mail open and ask me to set it up. I have no desire or need to use it. I have been copy/pasting the link, but I am really tired of it. I want to click and see Thunderbird go to work for me.
So, another question, how do I get all xxxx@xxxxx,com/net/org links to open Thunderbird instead of Mail if that is a better solution?
Thanks gang,
Kelly J.
BTW, I looked around the boards and found nothing even close to this. I posted to this board because it seems to be the right place for this issue since it is a system app.

Trying that now. I'll post my address here and try it. Back in a minute.
Yes sir. That's the ticket. Thanks for the help. I had to create an account to get mail to open fully, but I can delete it.
Thanks again.
Kelly J.
Message was edited by: kellyjdrummer
P.S. It still works after deleting the account. Thunderbird takes the command.
Thanks.
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Question about Mail app and domain name please help

Hi,
I wasn't sure where to post this question so figured this would be the best area. I have a website which uses bluehost as it's web hoster. My email is set up through them, such as [email protected]
In my Mail app, I have the POP thing set up so when ever someone emails me it goes right to the Mail app. It works great for my personal computer, but when I go to work and go on other computers is where the problem is.
When I am on a random computer at work, I have to sign onto my webhosting site and then use squirrel mail. It is quite a hastle and is not the best. I would love to use gmail, but still keep my domain name I have.
One co-worker mentioned just forwarding all my [email protected] emails to my new gmail email. There are issue's with doing this because if I'm at work and email someone with gmail it will use that email address. Also, I want to be able to read all my sent messages from any computer including the sent messages that were within my Mail app. Is this possible?
Besides forwarding is there a better solution? It is sort of hard to explain. Basically I want my [email protected] address to be run through gmail, be able to access on any computer, have it be the only address in my mail app, and most importantly have the sent messages from mail app to be able to be read on all computers.
I think gmail lets you make a domain name email, without gmail being included at the end. But I already have the email address made...am I able to just swap it? And keep all my mail inbox info?
What's the best sollution for my problem?
Thanks

You would need to login to your web mail account to reply so that the email came from "[email protected]"
I try to get a gmail address that is close to the domain name like - [email protected] - so that I don't have to bother opening web mail as it is a pain.
I forward to Gmail and then Mac Mail because their spam blocker is the best.
A lot of web mail addresses bounce mail because the capacity is limited and the owners don't go into their control panel to launch their web mail and clear out the old stuff. Lawyers, in particular, are famous for this. For this reason I don't set web mail to keep a copy of the forwarded mail. If my web mail gets full of spam and they start bouncing then its not my problem!

OS X's Mail app and SMTP auth

We're having a problem with OS X's Mail app connecting to Tiger Server's mail server. We have the server set up to not always require SMTP auth (all SMTP auth settings unchecked in Settings > Advanced > Security), and to allow relay from only a given set of networks (Settings > Relay). In theory, this means that if you're on one of the specified networks, you're not required to authenticate, otherwise you are. This according to Apple's documentation.
From a bit of packet sniffing, it looks like:
1. If a user on an allowed network tries to send mail through the server, the server does not return authorization as an option.
2. If the user has password authentication specified in Mail's SMTP Server settings, it refuses to send. If they set SMTP auth to None, the Mail app will send.
IOW, Mail doesn't send if Authorization is enabled in the Mail app, but not given as an option by the mail server. Has anyone else seen this? Is this a bug in Mail or Postfix?

If you have networks entered in
'Accept SMTP relay only from these hosts and
networks'
Clients on these networks don't need to authenticate
for local delivery or relay.
So it does what you are looking for.
Jeff
Well, goddarn it - so it does!
I was testing various permutation (10.3.4) just recently and it just wouldn't relay without auth if any of them was selected (honest!). That was with the trusted relay....
...but I just tried it again and it's fine!
I had put it down to just another 'glitch' in the documentation.
Oh well - glad you were there to point it out Jeff!
Whilst we are on the subject - do you know of any way to tie authentication (outwith trusted network) to specified users? I was thinking there might be a Postfix parameter for this (sorry, I should just look them all up but maybe someone knows it already)?
Thank, and sorry for any earlier confusion!
-david.

Netscape Messaging Server & iPlanet Web Server question

The netscape messaging server (v 4.1) is receiving emails which are html-only formatted. Through webmail, the body appears to be empty. When checking the message store, the message is not empty. When accessing through webmail, we are able to view the emails that arrive in the html and plain text formats (both together) or plain text, but not those that arrive html-only. The webserver is iPlanet Web Server, Enterprise Edition.
Is there any workaround for that, or is it a limitation of the web server?

WEll, um,
1. Netscape Messaging Server 4.xx, all versions have been End Of Support life for over 2 years.
2. There is no web server involved, here. Messaging itself serves the http interface.
3. Yes, there is a workaround. Upgrade. You're using very old bits, and the only real answer is for you to use a current product, if you need current features.
Messaging Server 5.2p2 is considered "mature", though still under support. No new features are getting added.
Messaging Server 6.2 is the current product. It's part of the Sun Java Enterprise System, and may be downloaded.

Netscape Messaging Server 4.1 timeouts in WebMail at LOGIN

Netscape Messaging Server 4.1 times out users in WebMail at LOGIN, but from
seemingly random sites.
<P>
Use configutil, found in the <server-root>/msg-<identifier>/ directory as follows:
<P>
./configutil -o service.http.ipsecurity -v no

My SMTP log is already in debug mode, yet it doesn�t show any information from the filter. The only area where I was able to find any reference to the UBE filters was in the log that I posted in my original post.
I've tried changing the COPY commands to DROP, yet it stll doesn't work.
I even tried:
$ALL DROP deadmail
and
$ALL DROP [email protected]
I'm starting to think that the UBE filters for 4.15 just don't work as the above should have worked fine.
Unfortunately, upgrading isn't an option right now, so I'm stuck with what I have.... So, any help would be great.
Thanks,
Arron

Migrating from Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 Plug-in to iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 Channel

Hi, there.
I wrote a custom plug-in for Netscape Messaging Server 4.15. The client for
whom I did this is now upgrading to iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 and has
requested that I update the custom plug-in accordingly. Unfortunately, as
specified in the iPlanet migration documents, you have to re-code the
plug-in as a channel to get it to work under iPlanet Messaging Server...
I've scoured the documentation about how to go about doing this, but I don't
know how to get started as I don't know anything about writing a channel.
The plug-in processes incoming messages to see if they were sent from a
specific domain. It then adds an arbitrary signature to each appropriate
MIME part in the message before letting the messaging server relay it.
1. Can anyone direct me to some explicit directions about how to write a
channel for iPlanet Messaging Server? The documentation for Netscape
Messaging Server was extremely helpful; I haven't found anything equivalent
for iPlanet channels.
2. Channels run as daemons? Do you have to start them when the machine
boots, or are they started for you by the MTA as a result of the channel
configuration file?
3. Do channels listen with sockets on a particular port for communication?
Do I have to parse incoming data and encode outgoing data as if it was an
SMTP communication?
4. Can an SMTP channel co-exist with other SMTP channels on the same
machine? Do the channels have to listen on unique ports? (Sorry, my socket
programming is a little rusty.)
Anxiously awaiting your reply...
Sean Dockery
[email protected]

What is the expected result of the plug-in?
Also, if you set the smtp log level to debug do you see it initializing the plugin at startup time and also entering the plugin during the smtp-accepts?

Mail.app and Type-Ahead

Software update from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11...
All ran smoothly, long restart was expected and completed successfully without interruption. So far, machine seems fine except for two problems, one of which relates to Mail.app....
Used to be able to hit CMD-N in Mail.app and start typing before the new message window actually opened on the screen. Type-ahead worked fine. When the window finally opened, characters I had already typed appeared in the message and the system caught up with me.
Now, when I do the same thing, I get an Alert Sound when the window actually opens and none of the characters I had already typed before the window opened appear in the message. Hence, no type-ahead any more since I updated to 10.4.11...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

please reply with any answers to the question. Not being age to access the directory and view ppt files are some serious issues that prevents business users from using this app and device and apple software.

Mail app and .mac integration

I wonder if someone can help. I have previously often drafted email on my home power book using mail app and saved as drafts and then worked on them later when away from home through .mac. This worked perfectly with 10.3 but with 10.4 messages are completely jumbled with html tags.
I'm not the only person finding this problem please see (slightly angry) discussion below:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1097134&#1097134
dot mac support state that it is an mail app support problem, which I now think is correct since testing with mozzila thunder bird works fine.
It seems a real shame that the tight integration between .mac mail and mail app is starting to slip. For clarification i'm composing in plain text in mail.app
Any help would be gratefully accepted, before i dump mail and jump over to thunderbird.
Chris

Hi Dave,
you should also ask in the specific .mac forums here.
Edited: Sorry, I see you already did it!
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Hi I want to attach word documents to yahoo mail app and some job portals using iPad I don't know how to attach it can u ppl help me thru this issue

would I be able to "upload" (not sure how else to say it) my existing folders and subfolders containing all my emails so that they are all available on my new IMAP service, while still being available on my Mac?
Not easily, no. There's no direct transfer option between POP and IMAP, especially across email providers. The best you could do would be to forward all of your emails to your new address, although it's not clear that you need to - dropping your sbcglobal.net account doesn't instantly render all your existing mail void - it'll still be in your Mail client, you can still read it, search it, etc., it just won't be on your provider's server.
I have toyed with the idea of getting a MobileMe account. Would that solve my issue/question above?
MobileMe would be viable, especially if you're interested in synching your various iOS devices. It's not free, of course, unlike Yahoo and Gmail, although you've already discounted them...
I have also toyed with purchasing my own URL, but it's hard to tell from the sites (1and1, Namecheap, etc.) if they come with IMAP email accounts included.
Some registrars offer email hosting bundles with a domain registration. This could be a good way to go. GoDaddy, for example, have a email hosting option for domains you register with them.

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