Price in Kb21n- relation to KP26
Hello All,
I entered a sender cost center, an activity type and a receiver cost center in KB21N and entered the quantity as 1. SAP makes the price show up as 1.11 CAD.
I maintained the price for this activity type and cost center as 1, why is it picking up 1.11 rather than 1 in KB21N?
My cost center's currency is CAD, there should be no exchange rate type that is affecting this right?
I checked CAD-USD in table tcurr just to make sure that no exchange rate was affecting this and I didn't find any exchange rate that would make it 1.11.
Please help
hi
Have you done any actual activity price calculation for the CC before doing KB21N. If yes that may be the actual activity price.
Regards
Rajneesh
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Moving Average Price
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The moving average price is calculated by dividing the value of the material by the quantity of material in stock. It is automatically recalculated by the system after each goods movement or invoice entry. -
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Is there any chance to change it? How can I set the sytem to use different price per month set in KP26?
Asnwers will be appreciated.Hi
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Hi Experts,
We have this scenario:
1. Activity prices are entered manually in KP26.(Activity type indicator=5)
2. At the time of CO11N only POWER activity will confirm.
3. Executing CPTA for overhead allocation.
4. KSS2 for power activity
5. No splitting for other cost elements
6. KSII Actual price calculation
7. MFN1 Revaluation of order
After revaluatin of order when i am checking actul cost for activities only power cost is coming.
Please find the enclosed print screens for same above process.
Please guide me how to get the actual price calculation for other activities.
KP26 :
KSS2:
KSII:
CO03:
Regards,
VivaanHi Rajneesh,
Yes Splitting rule is Activity only.
Ex.
1.Order Quantity = 1000
2. I confirmed yeild 500 Qty & power activity 200 in CO11N.
3. Now when i execute CPTA for that order its calculating like below.
4. KSS2:
KSII:
Now actual price is coming same for other activities except power.
If i maintain no split structure that time in KSII only power actual price coming as print screens posted in original query posted.
Please advise me on Actuall price calculation as per our business scenario.
Regards,
Vivaan
Now my client is asking is as below
Cost center report xxxxxx
Water GL cost = 60000
Water Qautnity=1000(This is PO Total order quantity)
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Confirmed Quantity= 500
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same for other activities also.
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Vivaan -
Activity prices maintained manually..Is KSII/MFN1 possible?
Hi Experts,
We have this scenario:
1. Activity prices are entered manually in KP26.
2. All Costs are maintained as Activity independent costs.
3. For Production Cost centers, some costs (primary costs) are Activity relevant and others not relevant at all for Activity.
4. No Splitting structure maintained so far.
Now, we are considering calculating Actual Activity prices through KSII and then MFN1 for revaluating Process orders.
I tried KSII in our test system, where I got the following error message # KP211. I even tried by maintaining the Actual Activity type category '01' and Actual price indicator '05' in AT master, but no luck.
Short Text
All activity prices are manually entered
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area , fiscal year , and version were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Proceed
Questions:
1.Given our case, is it possible to do KSII/MFN1? If yes, what configuration and master setup is required?
2. What accounting/CO entry posted MFN1. Especially, want to know if value also posted to CO-PA?
Thanks much for your time.
SCHi SC,<br>
<br>
sorry for my delay.<br>
<br>
Yes, you can process KSII even if you maintained planned activity prices manually. For this, the Activity type master should be activity price indicator "5" for Actual, hoever it's defalt value for planning (KP26).<br>
Could you check activity planning value in your period as follows;<br>
<br>
1. Go to transaction KP26<br>
2. Selection screen;<br>
Set your version and year/period and also cost center/activity types in problem.<br>
Push Next Layout button (Ctrl + F8) and set layout 1-204 (named "Control indicators").<br>
3. Push "Overview screen" (F5)<br>
<br>
You can see plan price indicator and also ACTUAL price indicator, so you have to check if actual price indicator is not "7" or "Blank". If not, please set it with value "5" or "6".<br>
Hope you can understand what I wrote above, but if you have any queries, please feel free to ask me.<br>
<br><br>
Additonaly about your question regarding "activity independent" cost planning<br><br>
In F1 help document for field "Equivalence Numbers", there're useful description how activity-independent costs allocates activity type and activity prices calculates. If you do not use cost split or activity-depend planning, you can process activity price calculation by "Equivalence Numbers". it's easy-way to allocate cost to each activity type. you can see this field also in KP26 with layout 1-201 (sample)<br><br>
the following passage from field "Equivalence Numbers" F1 document.<br>
<br><br>
- Equivalence Numbers<br>
Weighting factor for distribution of activity-independent plan costs of a cost center onto the available activity types.<br><br>
- Use<br>
This field group serves to weight the activity types created in a cost center. After weighting, the activity-independent plan costs of a cost center are distributed onto the available activity types.<br><br>
-Procedure<br>
If you want to change or create equivalence numbers in planning, this field must be defined in the planning layout. If this field is not defined, any existing equivalence numbers will be displayed, but they cannot be changed.<br><br>
Examples<br>
You have planned the following activity types for cost center 4420:<br>
Activ. type Plan quantity Equiv. nr.<br>
<br>
FST 400 hrs 3<br>
REP 50 hrs 1<br>
RST 20 hrs 1<br>
<br>
Total: 5<br><br>
This cost center has planned activity-independent costs worth $20,000 . These costs are distributed according to activity price calculation onto the iteratively calculated activity prices (cost rates) of the activity types:<br>
ATyp Fixed costs Fixed portion of activ. price<br>
<br>
FST 20,000 X 3/5 = 12,000 $12,000 / 400 hrs = 30 $/hr<br>
REP 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 50 hrs = 80 $/hr<br>
RST 20,000 X 1/5 = 4,000 $4,000 / 20 hrs = 200 $/hr<br><br>
Edited by: Takashi Kotani on Feb 9, 2010 7:55 PM -
Hello Experts,
We are having SRM 4.0, Classic scenario.
We want to achieve below while creating SC,
1. Based on Purchase Grp and company code, have check on price (Total value can not be greater than XX)
2. Based on purchase Grp (and may be company code) have check on Vendor. (Vendor can not be blank/null)
3. Based on purchase Grp (and may be company code) have check on Amount. (Amount can not be blank/null)
We are thinking of using BBP_DOC_CHECK_BADI. But how do we validate Price and Vendor related info?
Any inputs would be helpful.
Thanks,
DhananjayHello All,
Any updates on above.
Just to simplify,
While creating a Shopping Cart, below check is required,
1. Vendor and Amount field should not be blank. (Error message)
How this can be achieved?
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Dhananjay -
Actual Activity Price Calculation
Dear Gurus,
1. I have defined activity type say "Power" through KL01
2. Maintained the planned price through KP26 for the cost center which is going to use this activity type. say
cost center is "CCTR1"
3. Now there is something as actual activity price calculation at period end
4. When i execute through KSII i get the actual price which is the debited cost elements of the "CCTR1"
divided by the Activity Type "Power"
5. The debit balance of cost elements in "CCTR1" is Rs 10000 and activity type consumed through process
order is 200 KWH, hence the Actual price comes to Rs 50 Rs/KWH. While the planned price in KP26 is
Rs 6/KWH
How logical is this....
With Regards,
AmitHi Amit,
Let me give some insight into the Activity price calculation and cost obsorption from Cost Center to Prodcution
1. Normally we incur the production cost through FI like Direct Labor, Power, Indirect Labour and other indirectct production overheads
2. This cost is posted to Production Cost Centers
3. Now this cost need to be obsorbed to product cost using either Activity costing through Routing or Overhead costing using costing sheet.
Since you question is for Activity costing, let us focus only on activity price and absorption to Product Cost
1. All the direct cost that can be tracked with certain reasonability with activity types can be absorbed through activity costing to product costing
2. Now in your case, take for example - the industry you are working is power intensive, then we can track the consumption of Power using activity costing
3. At the first instance, you need to forcast the activity quantities for the month (based on the production planning)
4. Based on this, you forecast the cost that would be incurred for the expected output
5. Calculate planned Acvitiy Unit price and update it in KP26. The updation can be manual or automatic (using Cost Splitting and Price Calculation in case of Activity independant cost planning)
6. For all the activity confirations to the production/process order, the cost obsorption will take place based on the planned price
Actual
7. The cost of the power will be booked in FI and posted to Production Cost Center for the month.
8. The actual Activity quantity will be booked from Production confirmation for the month
9. At the end of the month, you need to do the actual price calculation. This calculation will be based on the TOTAL COST BOOKED FOR THE MONTH TOWARDS POWER FOR THAT COST CENTER DEVIDED BY TOTAL QUANTITY CONSUMPTION RECORDED IN THE COST CENTER
10. Once this is done, You can revaluate the activity quanitities booked on each of the production order.
This is how the activity cost aborption will take place in product costing
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Actual Activity Price calculation; KSII
Hello,
I am trying to calculate actual activity price but the system does not calculate the price though I have soecified the appropriate price indicator '5' in the Activity type master record.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!Something doesn't seem right here. You created an Activity Price and plugged in the Plan Fixed and Variable price for the Activity in KP26.
So why are you running KSII now? KSII is for Actual Activity Price Calculation, run at month-end after all your POs have been closed and activities booked.
Can you provide additional info.?
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