Accounting fixed price and ressource related billing in the same project

Hello community,
I am using the hierarchical accounting with PS and would like to have a project with two phases. The first phase could be something like an concept with a fixed priced. The other phase is ressource related. How would you do this in cProjects -> PS?
Thx, Max

HI ,
If you are working in integrated PS with cProjects
Phase in C project treated as WBS in PS
then for fix priced go to WBS in basic data phase right side you will find the operative indicators there you find the three indicators
--> Planning Element
If the Planning element indicator has been set in Create/change plan profile, you can only plan costs on those WBS elements that have been designated planning elements.
--> Billing Element
If you want to maintain a billing plan for a WBS element, you must set this indicator. If you have maintained a billing plan for the WBS element, you cannot change this indicator
--> Acct Asst.Element
If you set this indicator, the WBS element will be defined as an account assignment element
The first phase could be something like an concept with a fixed priced.--> use last option
The other phase is ressource related i.e. billing --> use second option.
if you make these change in PS module it will reflect in Cproject aslo.
thanks
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The billing relevance is controlled by item category of material, which u have assigned to sales document type.
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I have am faceing one problem in QEC. My client having delivery related billing and order related billing. For we have maintain only one billling document(order related and delivery related).
I have a item category in the sales order Zo09 for this item category system allowing the user to create both billing documents(order and delivery related) Please advise how i can stop the users to create delivery related and order related.
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Hi
My client having delivery related billing and order related billing. For we have maintain only one billling document (order related and delivery related).
What is the meaning of this statement ?
Say in a single order or order type say OR there can be two materials with different item categories say TAN and ZTAN and
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and
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I have a item category in the sales order Zo09 for this item category system allowing the user to create both billing documents(order and delivery related) Please advise how i can stop the users to create delivery related and order related
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