10.4 and long waits configuring external displays

I have recently upgraded to 10.4.2. When I connect an external projector to my PB it takes at least 4 times longer than 10.3 for the PB to:
1. detect the external display
2. set the external display resolution
I am spending forever with "blue screens of wait" while the PB sorts itself out.
Anyone else had this experience? This delay is so bad I am considering going back to 10.3.

Your out of lick unless you have DVD Drive, (can't be split into CDs or such), or another PPC Mac around & use FW Target Mode...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583
I'm with ya on the corporate profit Merry-Go-Round thing Robert.

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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3131
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What is apple doing. This macbook pro doesn't detect external display, doesn't detect my wacom..

This is awsome. Cant work on this laptop... Doesn´t detect nothing.

Hey there mrlrsm,
Welcome to Apple Support Communities.
The article below provides troubleshooting tips that may help you resolve the issue with your MacBook Pro no longer recognizing the external display.
Apple computers: Troubleshooting issues with video on internal or external displays - Apple Support
Ciao,
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