$ 10 Data Charge for Cellphone Upgrade

Verizon is forcing us to pay $ 10 a month per line data charge in order to upgrade to a decent phone - they must be getting so big that they don't care whether people leave for a provider that doesn't force you to do this. We have tried reaching a supervisor to discuss & the people who answer their phone tell us that a supervisor is unavailable. The phones that they offer that don't involve this charge are substandard. Does anyone else have an issue with this?

SmoothCriminal wrote:
Seriously? REALLY? Another one of these "I'm upset because Verizon is forcing a $10 or more data pack on us" forums. You should search the forums, there are tons of forums with the same complaint, give it a rest. I am going to give you the same message that I always give to people who keep on whining about this issue, when obviously NO ONE is listening. And Verizon, don't delete this message, I AM NOT "BOMBING THE FORUMS"! Here is the message:
(This message is to people who rant about how they hate data packs)
Ok,
PEOPLE!!!! Give it a rest! I understand that you think the mandated data plans are "unfair" and what not, but ranting like a child with a tantrum isn't helping anything. Maybe you should consider thinking up an idea that would appeal to Verizon, while still being REASONABLE. But Verizon probably doesn't want customers like you, because if you don't like the data plan that probably means you aren't giving them much money anyway.You can send them a letter, and calmly and assertively (and nicely wouldn't hurt either) tell them how you feel, and like I previously said, give them an idea for something new(even though I'm 99% sure they won' t use it, let alone care...). If Verizon just dropped the data packs then there would be a bunch of people complaining about how they got fined for using data (those people would probably be the same people who claimed they weren't using any data...). There would be a crap load of extra problems. I think that if you don't like how Verizon's business works you should tell THEM, not us (or you can just leave Verizon). I'm not going to lie, I actually like the data pack...I use the internet all the time. I don't even have a smartphone, I have a 3G multimedia phone (but I just ordered a Palm Pre Plus, for better internet and some other cool features, so I'm about to join the smartphone crowd)...I actually chose to get a even more expensive $30 unlimited data pack. But thats just because I use it a lot of internet. But if you don't like the data packs, MATURELY state your opinion to Verizon, not us (or leave Verizon). I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want to hear it anymore. And don't send me a reply saying something like "We can state our opinion if we wanna." or "You shouldn't just think that forcing a data plan on customers is ok" or correcting me on something I said, BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T CARE! I'd just appreciate if you stopped complaining to us, and start talking to Verizon (or like I mentioned early, you can leave). Oh, you guys aren't being forced into data plans. No one is coming to your home and saying "You must get a data plan, or you will be in trouble with the law". If you don't want a data pack just get a simple phone (the Razzle is actually a pretty full-featured phone that happens to be a feature phone). If you don't want a data pack, then what is the use a smart phone or a 3G multimedia phone? I would think a simple phone would be just fine for someone who doesn't use data. There might be a couple of extra features on the smartphone or multimedia phone...but I have a feeling SOME people (not all), just want the look of the smartphone, but you don't actually care about the features (since you don't get many features with out data). So, please, express your feeling to someone that can actually do something...or at leasts cares. P.S. If you think I'm wrong, don't message me about it!
(Thanks to those people who are trying to stop the annoying people who rant about how they hate data packs, and also thanks to those who don't (or have stopped) rant about how they hate data packs)
Pretty good ranting yourself there for someone ranting against those who who are (your words) "ranting like a child with a tantrum" about something you happen to disagree with and obviously do not understand. Your recent posts could be characterized using the same words.
You continue to amuse and entertain (please don't stop!) as well as miss the point. I know you said you don't care but just to set the record straight, the issue is about choice and being able to choose the devices and services we were allowed to choose prior to 01/18/10 when the mandatory data surcharge was enacted. We do not like the choices Verizon has chosen to allow us to make. However, we still do have the choice to express our opinion here (unless Verizon takes that choice away as well) and anywhwere else where customer opinions are allowed and encouraged. If that bothers you then you have a choice to read or not read these posts and respond or not respond. That choice is up to you, but as i mentioned before , it is entertaining.
Although, I obviously disagree with your point of view, I respect your right to have one and express it here or anywhere else as you see fit. For me to ask you to stop would be as silly as you asking us to.

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I had the very same uninitiated data charges problem and customer service claimed these charges to be valid. I don't possibly see how uninitiated data session charges can be considered valid.
Back in 2010 Verizon was fined by the FCC the largest fine ever levied against a wireless company. 25 million and agreed to refund customers over 50 million dollars. Why? Due to uninitiated data session charges! Washington Post article below at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/28/AR2010102806478.html
They seem to be up to their old tricks...
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The problem would be termed "uninitiated data session charges".
As mentioned in previous posts by myself and others there has been mysterious data session charges on our bills that were uninitiated by us. My repeated calls to Verizon customer service has resulted in no explanation for these uninitiated data session charges, only the response from CS (Customer Service) that these charges are valid.
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minimum) a result of a program placed by Verizon within the operating system of at least two Verizon models produced by LG. This program initiates the data exchanges that we are billed for, have to pay and have been paying.
Due to a lack of a significant response or resolution on the matter I filed a complaint with the FCC. The action of the FCC was swift in notifying Verizon of my complaint and charges.
Then “lo and behold” I receive a phone call from a Jennifer Rathburn (770) 521-5636 of the Verizon Executive offices in Atlanta notifying me that they would like to resolve this matter with me. Jennifer’s demeanor and action seems to indicate that she would like to satisfy me and would be investigating my complaint regarding the uninitiated data session charges because they care about their customers. It would, however, be tough to convince me of that, as I believe I would never have gotten ANY resolution short of my filing a complaint with the FCC. At present Verizon has until June 29, 2012 to respond to FCC in regards to my complaint.
Over 6 months of complaints to their CS and I never got any type of action or explanation of the data session charges except for them to say that the charges were valid. I heard the phrase,“these charges are valid” so many times from so many different CS reps that it seemed the reps were trained to give that response. I finally got one of the CS reps to admit that actually was the case. They WERE trained to give that response.
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investigation. You can do that here http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-10-2068A2.pdf
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the Company conducted a comprehensive, good-faith, internal investigation into whether Paygo customers had been incorrectly billed for data usage;
(ii) based on the internal investigation, the Company has concluded that the majority of the erroneous charges involved data exchanges caused by third-party software (created by a third-party but they left out the part saying they had placed it there) built into certain customers’ phones, while other charges resulted from, inter alia, customers accessing certain web links that should not have incurred charges, devices that incurred charges for attempts to access data when there was insufficient network coverage to complete the transfer, and unwanted third-party data transfers affecting customers with content filters;
(iii) based on the internal investigation, the Company has further determined that a total of approximately 15 million Paygo Customers were, or may have been, erroneously billed for data usage from November 2007 to the Effective Date
(iv) based on the internal investigation, including a review of billing records and other relevant data, the Company estimates that the total amount of the refunds and credits that should be paid to those Paygo Customers is approximately $52.8 million. (**** that's a BIG mistake!)
In consideration for the termination of the Investigation, Verizon Wireless agrees to the terms, conditions, and procedures contained herein.
If you read these “terms and conditions” I think you will agree with me that Verizon has “forgotten” their responsibility under that decree.
At first Jennifer had led me to believe that mine was an isolated incident and also tried to convince me it was a data charge for picture messages but now that I have gathered a large amount of evidence against Verizon particularly on the scope of the problem I will be making another complaint to the FCC.
C'mon Verizon... "same ol, same ol" You may have made a "mistake" last time but I'm betting I can prove this time it was no "mistake"!
Anyone wishing to contact me directly may do so at [email protected]

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ekwitter wrote:
I have been a Verizon customer for the last 6 years and have never had a data plan. On my September 2010 bill I had a data charge for 649 minutes and another for 100 minutes of data usage on 9/01, the day of my live fantasy football draft. So I have 9 alibis that I did not surf the web on my phone. Why on earth would access the internet for twelve and half hours in one day?I agree with crimedoggies - data is billed in kb or mb, not minutes, unless you are on an old America's Choice plan (and it's been at least 3 or 4 years since those plans have been offered, possibly more.
Could this be the reason?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20021076-266.html No - this artcle refers to "accidental" connections by hitting the wrong button, resulting in miniscule data usage (.007 mb, .012 mb, etc) that add up to less than a mb and a $1.99 charge per month, per line for family plans. It's not referring to large amounts of data usage/charges.
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I was informed that my data plan was eligible for a free upgrade from 250mb to 750mb and told the rep to do so. but it was never done. I am being charged for overage. What do I do?

I called in to do a temp upgrade on my data and was told by the rep that my account was eligible for a free upgrade. I said okay, but it never happened and now I am being charged for an overage. When I check my plan specifics I see that my data is set to the old amount, I will not pay what I don't owe. Now I am having trouble contacting anyone to help resolve this issue.

Dusty4691,
This is a stumper! As MrHelper stated, we do not have a 750MB plan so I'm curious as to what that offer was. How much data did you end up using for the month and how much were you charged in overages?
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I would really like to upgrade my Droid to a Droid 4 and use the WiFi hot spot feature. I have not done so yet because Verizon wants to charge me to use this feature of the phone. This appears to be illegal and I cannot understand and justify paying a monthly fee for something I am already paying for. I have seen a few posts on other websites trying to explain why Verizon or any other provider can charge for enabling a feature and not providing any additional service to the consumer however they are all very flawed attempts. I just want a VERY VERY VERY good reason why this is legal and justifiable. Please give me a convincing argument as to why anyone can charge twice for the same thing.
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Q: Does Bandwidth increase?
A: No, if the bandwidth to your phone is 8 Mbps, enabling tethering does not change the bandwidth therefore if a YouTube video is running on the phone and three other devices tethered to the phone they will be sharing the 8 Mbps bandwidth. This means that each device would only be able to use 2 Mbps of bandwidth under heavy usage. (You will not actually get an even split for several reasons and all combined will be less than 8 Mbps but that is due to overhead and OS limitations.)
Q: Am I allowed to use more data now that I am paying more?
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IMHO: The right thing for Verizon and other providers to do is to stop requesting that phones be shipped which require a provision from the provider so they can charge for the feature. There is legal precedent that it is illegal for a provider of a service to charge a customer for additional devices using their services if the provider is not providing additional service.
In order for Verizon and other providers to address issues with network capacity and unlimited data subscribers there are a few options available. One is to provide an incentive for those users to switch from unlimited to limited data plans or provide a credit for a device upgrade, etc. An other option is to keep things as they are with phone provisioning but provide tethering to limited data users for no additional charge and to charge users with unlimited plans for tethering. (BTW: I think is the best option.)
FYI: I do have an unlimited data plan and would be willing to switch to limited data if tethering were included and the prices were the same. Right now there is no incentive for me to switch to a different data plan especially if I need to pay for tethering in addition to limited data. I currently have an iPad with AT&T service which is an additional fee I am paying but if I drop the AT&T plan, upgrade my phone, and add tethering, I would be paying more and getting less so why should I? (The less is that my iPad would not get email updates, etc. except when I turn the WiFi hot spot on, which I understand runs down the battery so you do not want it on 24x7. Oh, another reason Verizon and others should not charge for tethering as tethering is not available 24x7)
Please I would like some straight honest answers to why it is legal for Verizon and others to charge for tethering and why I should pay for it.

I want clarify what I am asking for as I fear that many people may be thinking what Wildman stated which is not true. I think it is presumptuous for Wildman to think that I am not sincere and that I will not award points for a correct answer. The closest one to come to a correct answer thus far is jimfitzgerald however I need to see the policy or something in writing that explains what jimfitzgerald stated.
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From: jimfitzgerald on Feb 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Quote: "Also, the tethering plan does add capacity to your plan."
Response: Please provide a reference to the Verizon Source which states this and I will award points as this is an acceptable answer and is what I am looking for as stated in my original post. I cannot just accept a general statement like this as it will carry no wait if I get charged for going over my data limit.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #1 ... you will be consuming TWICE as much data ..."
Response: This is incorrect as the 4G LTE connection will not be able to provide any more data per second than the phone itself. I think you meant to state that you may consume your limit of n GB per month in a period of a week on a laptop verses 3 weeks on the phone which is correct. If you continue to consume data past your limit, you will need to pay more for it so what is your point? If you don't pay more for going over if you have the tethering plan then that makes all the difference. This would be my misunderstanding and would be an acceptable answer. If this is the case, please point me to the Verizon documentation which states this and I will award points.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #2 ... You get an ADDITIONAL allowance for your use when you activate a mobile hot-spot."
Response: This seems to allude to the fact that I may not understand how data usage is counted when tethering is added to your plan. Please provide a reference so I can read it and I will award points. Hopefully we are coming to answer here.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #3 ... but I don't think anyone would be happy with a monthly data bill of $60+ dollars."
Response: You are correct which is why I am having an issue with this. If I upgrade and keep my current unlimited plan, I will be paying $75 per month for data and tethering. To make matters worse, currently I am not a heavy data user as much of the time I have access to WiFi. I am considering switching to a 2 GB per month plan based on my current usage but I hate to give up my current plan as I will not be able to go back. I will switch however if the tethering was not an added cost or there is in fact an additional data allocation for tethered devices. I already feel that I am overpaying for data based on my current usage. The problem with switching plans is I could see if I have tethering, I may go over one or two months per year as once in a great while I need access and do not have WiFi available.
FYI: Here is a breakdown of my current usage.
- Verizon Phone: (Unlimited data @ $45/month) Average Usage 0.23 GB/month
- AT&T iPad: (2 GB/month @ $25) Average usage 0.89 GB/month
I do have another problem with switching which is unrelated to the data plan but is related to usage but will increase my cost per month.
From: jimfitzgerald on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Quote: "Or, in summary, charging for tethering is a way to make the people who use lots of data pay for it, rather than having everyone share the cost whether they use it or not."
Response: Sorry but my experience is just the opposite.
I would like to thank everyone who has tried to answer this question. It looks like there may be an answer but I would like to see it explained in black and white from the Verizon site. I cannot switch plans based on posts in this forum alone. If I were to switch then get hit with additional charges one month, I cannot call customer service and say that jimfitzgerald and rcschnoor told me that there was an additional data being provided to tethered devices.
I hope this helps and I hope this can be answered soon.

What can I use my Droid Charge for, after I upgrade to the new Samsung Galaxy S2 for VZW on Sept 8?

what can I use my Droid Charge for, after I upgrade to the new Samsung Galaxy S2 for Verizon on September 8?
I guess it can run fine on Wi-Fi and become a media player.... or is there a market for 1-month-old Droid Charge phones?
How much trade-in value can I get from VZW or BestBuy or Amazon?
Thanks!

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/08/03/leaked-verizon-roadmap-reveals-potential-launch-dates-for-stratosphere-vigor-bionic-and-more/
DROID Bionic: (9/8 launch) – You already know everything about this device, don’t you?
Samsung Stratosphere: (9/8 launch) – 4G LTE device running Android 2.3
HTC Vigor: (10/6 launch) – Will replace the HTC Thunderbolt
LG Revolution 2: (10/20 launch) – Will replace the original Revolution
Samsung Galaxy Tab P8 (November launch) – Could be the 8.9″ Galaxy Tab?
Samsung Illusion: (9/29 launch) – 3G smartphone running Android 2.3
Samsung Plato: (January launch) – whatever it is, it was pushed to 2012
HTC Bliss: (9/29 launch) – Lower end Android 2.3 device; the chick phone?
Motorola XOOM 4G LTE: (9/8 launch) – Assuming this is the date that the 4G LTE upgrade starts. Also when the 4G LTE version will be in stores.

$ 10 Data Charge for Cellphone Upgrade

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