1080i dvcpro footage mixed with SD after fx footage

hi,
i have 1080i dvcpro footage which i am editing in final cut pro 4.5.
i will be combining this footage with after fx renders.
delivery will be SD 720x576 anamorphic.
At the moment i was going to edit in HD then just export a SD version for delivery. Would it just be better for me to re-render everything at SD, because i want to be able to use the after fx renders and i don't wanna render at HD if it's gonna be SD.
thanks

Normally working with HD footage at HD resolution, then downconverting at the end is fine. But you you suggested would be the wise choice with this perdicament. Because up-converting all the AE footage, then downconverting it will really make it look bad. Convert all your HD footage to SD (uncompressed 8-bit, or an uncompressed setting that matched your capture card, like blackmagic 8-bit with a Decklink card) then cut in your AE footage.
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I am facing problem with Java after having run Software upgrades.
Here is the whole story. I recently moved to iMac 10.5.6 from PowerPc 10.4. On this new machine I was having problem running a 3rd party application, which requires JVM. As this application worked well on Tiger, I decided to upgrade JVM on my iMAC using Software Upgrade(was I insane!!). As I like my systems to be updated (as with linux on my personal machine) I clicked "install all". As a result I have the following upgrades run on my machine:
2009-05-20 13:12:01 +0200: Installed "Mac OS X Update Combined" (10.5.7)
2009-05-20 13:12:10 +0200: Installed "Remote Desktop Client Update" (3.2.2)
2009-05-20 13:12:26 +0200: Installed "Java For Mac OS X 10.5 Update 2" (1.0)
2009-05-20 13:58:36 +0200: Installed "Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 3" (1.0)
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