1300 aps, all in fldrs..thn BOOTLOOP crsh/restor. devic/os indepndnt..hapens 2all. once loaded up, th hd is oftn maxd @bout 2-400mg aval free. wht do u thnk caus' ths evr prsent failur

Question

With over 1300 itunes loaded apps and 2+gb of cydia, all in folders, i get BOOTLOOP'd. device/os independant. 2-400mgs of free space. what exactly do you think causes' this ever present failure?
In Short:
1. restore my iph4
2. backed up itunes data is restored (not as new phone)
3. jailbreak (entire process littered with reboots/ springs)
4. loader installs cydia
5. pkg backup restore of cydia apps
6. itunes Install 1300+ apps (sometimes all at once, sometimes 50-100 at a time)
7. start icon categorization setup (creating approx 50-75 folders and filling with apps til only 50-75 folders are left on the springboard)
8. and then.....
9. BOOOOM!.....
10. Bootloop.....
11. a sigh as i pour a forty to the curb cuz of the loss of weeks worth of work (use to be a rage of some sort followed by depression, but that's long been numbed)....Bootloop....
12. Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloo p....Bootloop....Bootloop....Bootloop....
13. try like normal to bring it back. some times it works thru tiny umbrella.  sometimes thru a hard reset.
14. but it never lasts.................
15. redo - 1-2 weeks gone!
In Quire:
1. asking myself these questiions, i've trued all of these, like maybe there's another restore//jailbreak/cydia pkg install/itunes apps install combo?  maybe all the apple apps first.  then the jailbreak?  this, however, was the first thing i tried. it think it might be even worse this way.
2. try less reboots between big changes?
3. i kinda get heavy handed when it comes to downloading & installing 5-10 packages/apps/themes at one time thru cydia's q. should i only do & at a time?
4. should i boot in safe mode & install all of my cydia apps while there. like in the old mac days, extensions hated being installed while others were running.
5. what about the apple apps?  only install all of those, as well, while in safe mode?
6. is there a magic number of cydia items i can have installed on my iphone?
7. is there a magic number of apple items i can have installed on my iphone?
8. how about installing.  can i let itunes just run and run and run and install all 1300 apps, a couple gigs of songs and movies all night or should i baby it.
9. if i baby it, how many apps should i allow itunes to install back -to-back before stopping it gently and then maybe rebooting and then starting again?
10. how about cydia. and successive app download and install limit?
11. does the os get ****** when i install and uninstall apps all of the time?  i mean, i'm not flippant. just picky.
12. when i restore, and i select thru pkg backup and thru the itunes restore process, the last version, thus bringing over all of the preferences and junk from the failed os, could i be effectively be bringing over the problem? and unsolved conflict? a booty plist file?
13. holding the home button and then hold the power without being plugged in, until the apple logo appears and then goes or appears and goes twice are two different cleansing. and most of the time, if the failing os gets saved, it's one of those processes that does it.  why?
14. why doesn't tiny umbrella's 10x bootloop repair work?
In Detail:
so, each and every time i spend a week or two doing the entire process you see below.  i'm sure many people do.  i love it!  but...then 'the problem' occurs and the whole process starts over. it's really hurting my life. it's like a bootloop within a bootloop. soon my chick's gunna give me tha pootboot!
1. restore iphone 4/32 thru itunes via 'option button to retain the baseband' method. i always have the latest os unless it's got issues.
2. then i'll either:
    a. i'll let itunes sync to my last backup of that device Without adding but two or three apple factory loaded apps. like the first sync. not virgin 'new', tho. OR
    b. i'll stop right after the restore w/o doing any syncing but where i get a home screen and immediately jailbreak it.
         • use to be thru pwnage tool 4.3.3.1, but now thru jailbreakME, of course.  but it does not matter....the problem will happen no matter the dev.
         • a) is performed more often than b)  found no real difference.
         • also, to note so that anyone reading knows that i am a avid rebooter and respringer between deeper changes and upgrades.
3. now i'll perform the en vogue jailbreak, jbME is just stellar!  great job Saurik & Comex!  now it's time for cydia to look like the app store!
4. now i install cydia thru the loader and then reboot a couple times.
5. then i'll immediately install only PKG Backup.  then reboot a couple of times.
6. then, thru PKG, i'll install All of  my cydia apps. reboot and do it again if it missed a couple and so on until complete. i've listed them all below.
7, then spend the first bout of time adjusting and organize all of the new cydia joy. a couple of days to a week. prefs brought over via PKG are getting better.
8. then i either start or continue the process of itunes app installing. usually stopping the process every 100 apps to reboot and/or use for the night.
9. that itunes install process takes days. then or during i start the folder creation and icon organization process.  usually end up with about 50-60 folders.
10. now i start filling up these folders with, remember, over 1300 itunes, cydia and installious apps. this is often where i find the bootloop to occur. not as much as of late, but it's where i see it most. when finished, i have very little hard drive space left.  200-400mb to sometimes 1gb.
11. if lucky, i have only folders on my springboard filled with apps. i've been there before and then the bootloop would attack. but even then, it's usually after an install of some sort thru cydia.
12. i then bust out tiny umbrella and try, oh try, their 10x bootloop recovery. usually nothing. and during that process, since t.u. is using greenpois0n, i get to see the verbose boot screen which shows a clue as to what the problem might be thru this result:
"AppleBCMLAN: :handleIOKitBusyWatchdogTimeout!(): Error. no successful firmware detected after 60000 ms!  giving up"
13. i also try a single-cycle power button hold force reset and then double-cycle power button hold force reset.  sometimes one of these work.  but usually only for a short day or week.  it's just the sign to backup and be ready.
what do you think causes this ever-present failure to haunt me/us?  or is it just 'it is what it is'?
In Terested:
I have a number of ios devices. been jailbreaking them since day one of cydia. do'em for people all of time.  i'm not a hacker by any means but i know what i'm doing. ****, i'll go up in that and **** a string of display text up!  but, code...no.  wish.
i was going to start a business called cy0pt which customizes ios devices for peeps with bucks.  other issues arose, but do be on the lookout for a site called onewon.com. i've got mad app sifting knowledge and see the need for a site/app showing not all, not the top 10 but the single most capable app per category.  the categories would be busted way down to like 'live effects photo and video'.
i'm hoping that once trusted by a user after the user had downloaded a couple, compared and found my findings to be tight, just said '**** it' and grabbed everything fom my site and considered his app aquisition process complete.  the hope is to not only speed up the tool gather out there but also to show apps that are categorized in high detail get used more often because they are easily identified as to what exactly they do. let me know what you think.
also, i need a person to build the site and a person to build the iPhone app or one to do both. let me know if you'de like the details for a possible percentage partnership.
thanks for any assistance!
bbby
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* 3G Unrestrictor
* 5-Row Keyboard iOS4
* 5x7 Layout for Iconoclasm
* 7-zip (POSIX)
* 8J2 iPhone3,1 JailbreakMe 3.0
* Action Menu
* Action Menu Plus Pack
* Activator
* aCyDev
* AdBlocker
* adv-cmds
* afc2add
* Airplane SBSettings Toggle
* AirVideoEnabler
* Alarming
* AllPlay
* Anonymous Email
* App Stat
* AppCake
* AppCrackr
* AppInfo
* AppList
* appPack
* AppSync for 4.0+
* APR
* APR (/usr/lib)
* APR-util
* APT 0.6 Transitional
* APT 0.7 (apt-key)
* APT 0.7 HTTPS Method
* APT 0.7 Strict
* APT 0.7 Strict (lib)
* Aptupdate for SBSettings
* aTube Video Downloader
* Autocorrection SBSettings
* Autolock SBSettings
* AW-Open
* AW-Wlan6x - AW-Open
* Backgrounder
* Barrel
* basic-cmds
* Berkeley DB
* BigBoss Icon Set
* BigBoss Recommended Tools
* Black and Red UI
* Black Voice Control
* Bluff My Call
* Bong
* Bootstrap Commands
* Bourne-Again SHell
* Browser Changer
* Browser Changer SBSettings Toggle
* BTstack
* BytaFont
* bzip2
* Calculator Widget
* Call Blocker
* Caller ID Faker
* Caller ID SBSettings Toggle
* CallLog
* CallNow
* CameraWallpaper
* Celeste Bluetooth File Sharing
* CF CK Keyboards pack
* Circles
* Class Dump
* Clean Up
* CodeThemed
* Color Keyboard
* Core Utilities
* Core Utilities (/bin)
* CrackNShare
* Crazy Text
* CrazyDevice
* Curiosity Killer 3 Pranks
* cURL
* CyanED HD
* CyDelete
* Cydia Icons
* Cyfix GUI
* Cyfix Script
* Darwin CC Tools
* Darwin Tools
* Data Roaming SBSettings Toggle
* Data Usage SBSettings Add-on
* Debian Packager
* Debian Updater for SBSettings
* Debian Utilities
* DeepEnd
* DeleteMail
* developer-cmds
* DeviceSpeed
* DietBar
* Diff Utilities
* diskdev-cmds
* Display Recorder
* dlssid
* Eircom Grabber
* English (United States) Hunspell Dictionary
* Erica Utilities
* eWiFi
* ExMormon
* ExtremeWiFi
* FaceBreak Cracked
* FaceTime Surveillance
* Fake Power
* Fake Reboot
* FAKE restore
* Fast Copy
* Fastr Respring
* FBphotoSave
* FFmpeg
* file-cmds
* Find Utilities
* FolderEnhancer
* FolderEnhancer Cracked
* Footprintz
* FREEdi YouTube Downloader
* FreeSync
* Full WebClips
* FullDrop
* FullPreview
* FullScreen for Safari
* Gawk
* gettext
* Ghosts Soundboard
* Git
* Glasklart Classic 4.0 - 6600+ icons!
* Glasklart HD - iPad & iPhone 4 ready!
* GNU Debugger
* GNU Privacy Guard
* Google Data APIs
* Graviboard
* gremlin
* Gremlin2
* grep
* GridTab for Safari Cracked
* GuizmoDNS
* GuizmOVPN
* GVIntegrated
* gzip
* Hackulous Resources
* HapticPro
* HapticPro SBSettings Toggle
* HeadingLock for Maps
* HiddenMail
* HUD Controls Plus
* Hunspell
* i4 Invisible Unlock Tap & Answer
* i4 white note
* iAdKiller
* iAm Jailbroken
* iAm JB+Dev Edition
* iBigBoss
* iBye
* iClassic
* Iconoclasm
* IconSupport
* iDemonoid
* iDeviceDaily
* iDic
* iFile
* iFlipText
* iFoneguide
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* iGoogler Pro
* iGuà as
* iHackerPro
* iKeyGuard Key Logger
* iKeyGuard SBSettings Toggle
* iLickHer
* iLostMyi
* ImageShack
* inetutils
* Inflation
* Inspell
* Inspell SBSettings Toggle
* Installous 4
* Instant Mirror
* IntelliStatusBarIcons
* InvertColors SBSettings Toggle
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* iPhoneModding
* iPirateBay
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* iProxy 2
* IQ Quick Test
* iShare
* iSHSHit
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* iStreamNet
* iTorrentLeech (Free)
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* iTracker
* iVoiceChanger
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* iWep STDic2011
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* iWhiteboard
* iWPA
* Keyboard Fixer iOS 4.3+
* keyboard tock sound
* less
* libdisplaystack
* libhide
* libjpeg
* libnet
* libpcap
* libsigc++
* libstatusbar
* LibVNCServer
* LibWeather
* libxml2
* libxml2 Library
* Link Identity Editor
* Location Spoofer
* lsof
* Lunar Ball LITE
* LZMA Utils
* macX4 MAC Changer (iOS 4)
* Mail Rules
* MailKeyboardHide
* Make
* ManualCorrect Pro
* Mark Read
* Masks
* Matte Grey SBSettings
* MeFire
* Mobile Kiosk
* Mobile Substrate
* Mobile Terminal (iOS4)
* ModMyi.com Forum Browser
* ModMyTech App
* MouseSupport
* Multifl0w
* MultiIconMover
* MyApps
* nano
* neon
* network-cmds
* Neuropool Batt Percentage
* New Curses
* NexusOne Glasklart Wallpaper Theme
* NoCyfresh i4
* OpenSSH
* OpenSSL
* OpenVPN Toggle for SBSettings
* OSFaker 2 BETA
* OverBoard
* PAM (Apple)
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* PandoraSkips
* PasswordPilot
* patch
* pcre
* Pee Wee Herman Soundboard
* pincrush
* pirni
* Pirni Pro
* PlaceTrack
* png
* PoliceCar SoundBoard
* PolyWords Open
* PreferenceLoader
* Profile Directory
* ProgressGEAR Mod
* Prototype Font
* Push Mail SBSettings Toggle
* Push Notifications Toggle
* PwnCenter
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* QuickMP3
* Ragdoll Fun Lite
* Ranbee
* Rate My Pic
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* readline
* Red Progress Bar
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* Safari Download Toggle
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* top
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* wget
* whois
* Wi-Fi Sync
* WiFi Analyzer
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* XAR
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* XML Parser Toolkit
* xml2
* Xpandr
* YFiSelect4
* yFy Network Finder Lite
* YourTube 2
* Zuijlen

Answer 1

Once you have jailbroken your phone and installed that software, you have voided your Apple warranty. Also, in registering for this forum, you agreed to a number of Terms of Service, and one of them is not to discuss this type of information. Since you have indicated (and I certainly did not read the entire post, just highlighted the parts about Cydia and installing) you have done all of this, you have forfeited your chance to get any help here on this forum. You will need to take this to a forum that discusses this type of modificaiton to the iPhone. Also, check out this Apple support document.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3743