16-Bit Workflow in Adobe Camera RAW 6.3

With the “Depth” button set to 16, I go through the RAW editing options from top to bottom as they are laid-out on the right side of the screen.
I must convert to 8-bits at some point. It can be either before leaving the RAW editor or within the Photoshop Elements 8-bit editor.
Will I lose the higher quality16-bit editing I have just done if I change the Depth button to 8-bits while still within the RAW editor?
I then click the “Open Image” button to do any final 8-bit editing. I could also set it to 8-bits in the 8-bit editor.

The bit depth setting has no effect while you are actually in the raw converter, only on the conversion done when you send the image over to the editor.

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WILL Adobe Camera Raw 7.4 or Later version 8.7.1 work with Adobe Photoshop CS5.5 extended version 12.1 x 64 bit with a Mac OSX
10.7.5 lion. I am having trouble opening RAF raw files on my newly acquired Fuji X100S camera.Many thanks

With that version of Photoshop, the most recent version of Camera Raw you can use is 6.7. If updating your Photoshop or subscribing to the creative cloud is not an option then you could use the free DNG converter provided by Adobe. The latest version of the DNG converter is 8.7.1. I am not familiar with Mac operating systems, so I'm not certain if your OS is compatible with the latest version. You can download it and try.
Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh : Adobe DNG Converter 8.7.1

Adobe Camera Raw to Photoshop Workflow

Hi
Can someone please tell me those edits which should/Must be done in Adobe Camera raw on a Raw image prior to importing and editing with Photoshop.
I believe its the following.
-White Balance
-Crop
-Exposure to recover blown highlights
-Tone adjustments to contrast and Brightness
-Lens Chromatic and vignetting
-Renaming and 16bit exporting
Every thing else can be carried out ion the Tif in PS
Thanks
Carlo

Most Camera Raw-oriented people say do as much as possible in the plug-in, but I tend to think that Photoshop (the main app) isn't all washed up just yet.
I do pretty much what you listed, myself.
When CS5 was first released with Camera Raw and the new 2010 process, I did quite a bit of experimentation to find out just what seemed to give the best results with regard to delivering the best detail in my images. It turns out doing upsampling in Camera Raw to the highest or next to highest pixel count gives slightly better, more natural looking detail IMO. Of course you need a good computer to handle the extra image size.
Converting to 16 bits/channel seems prudent.
Also note that if you convert to anything other than the ProPhoto RGB color space you chance getting channel clipping, where values for one of the color channels come up solid black, even though the camera may have measured above-0 luminance in those parts of the image.
-Noel

Adobe Camera Raw changes not reflecting in Premiere Pro

I was super excited to try out the new CNDG support in Premiere Pro CC 2014, but I have to be honest - I am a bit disappointed...
I am using 16bit Cinema DNG files and the source settings sliders really aren't doing it for me (notice the pink highlights)
That's alright though, I would much rather use Adobe Camera Raw!
Right click > Edit Original
There we go, that looks nice - no pink highlights, nicely recovered details in the shadows and highlights.
PERFECT, click DONE!
Nothing...For whatever reason, changes are not reflecting.
Adobe - please allow us to use Adobe Camera Raw, there are so many folks out there that want to incorporate it into their workflow. I have tried SpeedGrade and various other color correcting tools and I have found Adobe Camera Raw to work the best IMHO
Thank you for your time.
-Loyal Paying Customer

Hi Ekombokom,
ekombokom wrote:
Hello! I too am having this same problem. I used Camera Raw (both in Bridge and Photoshop to make sure) to adjust and correct the Cinema DNG files I shot with my BMPCC; however, the video sequence in Premiere does not reflect any of the changes made. Why would Adobe not support Camera Raw settings in Premiere?
Sorry, but Premiere Pro does not have a camera raw importer. You adjust the settings in the Source Settings dialog box instead (for RED, ARRI Raw, BMCC and BM Pocket Camera DNG files). You do have access to some controls for these formats, but in some cases, Camera Raw has more controls.
ekombokom wrote:
Camera Raw is an amazing tool for refining an image and gives me the best results compared to SG and Davinci. I was so excited to be able to use it once Premiere supported CinemaDNGs but now I'm confused as to why it's not supported.
Cinema DNG from the Blackmagic Cameras are supported, you just adjust settings in Source Settings, as I mentioned. Have you tried that? The reasoning behind this is that Cinema DNG video coming from camera raw is too difficult to playback and edit with.
That said, some users bring Cinema DNG footage to After Effects, adjust the video there, then render out files that are suitable to edit with.
ekombokom wrote:
I thought the point of using Adobe was that all their products worked together seamlessly? I really hope they fix this.
You can always make a request here: http://adobe.ly/feature_request, however, I don't see a camera raw importer going into Premiere Pro any time soon (if ever) because of the reasons I previously mentioned (editing with camera raw would be too cumbersome). I think the more realistic feature request would be to add more controls in Source Settings.
Thanks,
Kevin

Using Adobe Camera Raw as External Editor

I've recently purchased Aperture 2.1 and am very pleased with everything thus far. I capture the majority of my photos in the RAW format (Nikon NEF specifically), and the one thing I'm trying to work out is this - with iPhoto I am able to choose Adobe Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' and when opening an image for adjustments, iPhoto sends the the picture in its native format. Consequently, RAW formatted images open with the Adobe Camera RAW plug-in, jpegs right into Photoshop and so on. With Aperture I notice that I am still able to select Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' but instead of sending the native format, Aperture allows only the 'temporary' format options of TIFF and PSD (8 and 16-bit). Needless to say, the files open directly into Photoshop -instead of the Camera RAW plug-in that I would prefer for my RAW files. Does anyone know of any work-arounds or possible solutions to this issue?

iPhoto has no RAW conversion controls, but just makes a copy of the file for iPhoto edits.
When you choose to edit it in photoshop, it sends the original over to Adobe Camera RAW. This is NOT a non-destructive workflow.
Aperture has its own RAW converter- a quite good one- so the need for ACR is removed, and the workflow IS non-destructive. You should only be going to Photoshop for the things that Aperture is not designed to do like compositing and hi-end retouching
The only work around is to export the master then open it in ACR, but that workflow would be senseless.
Honestly, if you prefer ACR, then you should be using Bridge or Lightroom for DAM as well.
DLS

Opening tiff photos in Adobe Camera Raw

I can not open my tiff files / photos in Adobe Camera Raw. I am using CS6 that has been completely updated with all the current updates. I go to Bridge, highlight a tiff thumbnail photo and go up the file drop down menu. The open in raw selection is grayed out and I can not select it. It works fine with jpeg files, and I can open raw files without problems. It just won't work with tiff files. I have gone to preferences and selected the option to open all supported tiff flles but this did not work either.
I have uninstalled Photoshop and Bridge and reinstalled it and updated it all again and it still will not let me open tiff files in Camera Raw.
Any ideas?

I am more apt to beleive the issue is with the tif files themselves. Not all tif files are equal. It depends on the compression, bit mode and so forth. Can the tiff files be opened in photoshop? if so, then that just maybe the problem. if not, then the file itself maybe corrupt. But I am leaning towards the settings used when saving the file.

How to change preference setting in Photoshop CC 2014 to not automatically lauch Adobe Camera Raw when opening Nikon raw .NEF file

When I launch Photoshop CC 2014 and then open a .nef raw file it launches Adobe Camera Raw and I click Open Image, then I "Convert to Smart Object" then launch Filter > Camera Raw Filter. Is there a preference somewhere for raw files that just bring you right into Adobe Photoshop without stopping at Camera Raw first? Thanks!

Gene,
Ah! Okay, makes sense now. I just learned tonight that some features are not available when using Camera Raw as a Smart Filter. One being Lens Profile Correction. So it makes sense to have have Camera Raw open right off the bat to make some tweaks first then continue on. I found the below on the Adobe website. Thank you so much!!
Note: The following features are not available when using Camera Raw as a Smart Filter (that are normally available in Camera Raw), primarily because they don’t make sense in the filter context: Workflow options and preferences, crop and straighten tools, rotation tools (rotate left/right buttons), snapshots, camera and lens profile corrections.

Bridge CS6 bad preview after adjustment in Adobe Camera Raw 7.0

Hi,
when i update camera raw from 6.5 to 6.6 the preview can`t give me right preview only after 1 or more adjustments in adobe camera raw (yes, "Always High Quality"and "Generate Preview-Size Previews").
Image apears and stays like when we open it in camera raw in the first few seconds with the yellow exclamation mark.
Months ago the only solution i found after several reinstals of phoshop, was to turn back to camera raw 6.5.
Now im trying beta bridge cs6 and problem come back for me again.
I use Nikon D3x with 14 bits ~49MB .nef files with Windows 7 64 bits .
Is any one have same problem?And why only in 6.6 (and new camera raw 7.0) and not in 6.5?
Thanks
Arménio Teixeira

When I saved a image to my desktop and wanted to open in Preview so I could do some altra fast tweeks like add sepia and then resaved it came up that I didn't have aothourization to save changes. I then as suggested went to finder - get info - and unlocked the file and entered the desktop password when prompted and closed but it still won't save the changes. I don't want to change it to open as a PS file because it is a JPEG and takes allot of effort when preview cnages under tools color is so efficient. Other suggestions to try?

Why external editor Cs5 doesn't open in Adobe Camera Raw window?

I am workning in Apertute 3 and I want to edit some photos in Photoshop Cs5. I am working with RAW files, but when I want to open the file in external editor, it doesn't open in Adobe Camera Raw so I am loosing the Adobe Camera Raw adjustment abilities. Is there perhaps a way how to set up Aperture to comunicate with Photoshop Cs5 so it opens photos in Camera Raw window? I think in previous version of Aperture this was possible. Thanks.

Editing in the external editor (from within aperture) is only possible for Versions, not for masters, afaik. Since it would be pointless to export a Version again in some raw format, Aperture offers high quality lossless formats to export versions - tiff and Photoshop psd.
If you want to do the raw processing externally, you will have to edit the master image file:
export the master, or reveal a managed master and copy it to Photoshop, then reimport it.
To edit the master in Photoshop and to reimport it, you could use an automator service: I put a sample workflow and some instructions on how to use and modify it on this page: feel free to modify it according to your needs.
Additional External Editor in Aperture:
http://dreschler-fischer.de/FAQ/Scripts_Services/Entries/2012/1/12_Additional_Ex ternal_Editor_in_Aperture.html
Regards
Léonie

Open with External Editor Adobe Camera Raw = HOW?

When I export a RAW file to the External Editor (I've chosen Photoshop CS3) I would like for it to open in Adobe Camera Raw, just like any RAW file that I open in Photoshop outside of Aperture.
However it bypasses Adobe Camera Raw and opens directly in Photoshop.
I have the "Prefer Adobe Camera Raw for JPEG files" and "for Supported RAW files" boxes checked in the Photoshop Prefs.
I see some chatter about Hot folders and Automator around here, but no definitive answer/workaround.
If Aperture doesn't support exporting to Adobe Camera Raw, it is a HUGE leg-up for Lightroom in the RAW workflow department.
Please tell me I'm missing a checkbox somewhere... Thanks.

buttermaker wrote:
Please tell me I'm missing a checkbox somewhere... Thanks.
You're not missing a checkbox, you're missing a fundamental issue of how Aperture (and LightRoom for that matter) work.
When you use the Open in External Editor command, Aperture will convert the RAW file, apply any adjustments you have made, and send the resulting PSD or TIFF file to the external editor.
The original file is NOT sent and there is no option to do so. Why not? Because Aperture Versions do not exist as discrete image files - the adjustments are shown on-the-fly each time you view it, saving on the space taken up by multiple TIFF/PSD/JPEG files for each Version. As ACR uses a totally different RAW conversion & adjustment engine from Aperture, Aperture wouldn't be able to display any changes made in ACR without including the entire conversion engine of ACR, which Adobe might not be too happy about...
In other words, if you want to use a different RAW convertor you will have to export the Master, convert it in the other app, and then import the resulting 'normal' image file back into Aperture. The same is true for LightRoom.
Ian

Information in Histogram in Adobe Camera RAW

Since I capture my images in RAW, when I open them in Adobe Camera RAW (via Elements 11), what information is displayed in the image and the histogram I see?
Is it showing me the jpeg created in the camera? If so, the jpeg settings in my camera are not only important in viewing the LCD and the histogram in my camera at the time of capture. They would also be important in viewing my image when it first opens in Adobe Camera RAW.
Thanks for some input.
Mary Lou

I have an answer to this question supplied to me from a forum on www.luminous-landscape.com. It is as follows:
Re: Understanding Camera RAW article
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Quote from: mlfrost on September 30, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
Perhaps you can answer a related question on Camera RAW. When I open an image captured in RAW format, I see an image and histogram in Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that the opening image and histogram are created from the camera's jpeg settings?
No...Camera Raw rips the entire raw image and does a demosaic and application of ACR defaults to generate the preview and the histogram (which is displaying the resulting graph based on the output color space set in ACR Workflow Options). ACR doesn't use ANY settings from the camera's JPEG settings and the only thing that ACR uses from the raw file is white balance info and the ISO metadata...

Jpegs opened in Adobe Camera RAW

With students new to digital photography and who are capturing in jpeg out of fear for the difficulties they assume go with RAW, I have found it useful to have them open some of their jpeg files in Adobe Camera RAW. They become familiar with the tools there and are willing to switch to RAW capture.
My question is this: What happens to that jpeg image if they set ACR to 16 bits and they continue to open their jpeg image into Photoshop (or Elements) with ACR set to 16 bits. Since that data isn't contained in the jpeg file, what does ACR do? Does it "manufacture" extra data?
Mary Lou

With either 8-bits or 16-bits black is 0 and white is the highest possible number, so adding bits just adds precision to the numbers, not extra data. With 16-bits you get 256 colors between each of the original 256-colors of the 8-bit JPG so it’s like having fractional colors compared to the original 8-bit colors.
An analogous situation using decimal numbers might be: if the JPG starts with 3 decimal digits of precision then the numbers could range from 000 to 999 with 000 being black to 999 being white, but if you doubled the number of digits to 6 then the color numbers would range from 000.000 to 999.000. These are exactly the same values as we started with, but if we choose to manipulate the colors, which is the point of using ACR in the first place, then we don’t lose information.

Adobe Camera Raw - CPU or RAM?

Hey All!
Please read the whole post, but if you want to cut to the chase, my question is: for ACR conversions would I be better off with an (Windows) 8-core system and 6gigs of ram, or a 4-core system and 12 gigs of ram?
I am a professional photographer who, after upgrading to some equipment that spits out serious file sizes, needs to upgrade his computer system. I shoot almost exclusively RAW and I rely primarily on Adobe Camera Raw to convert my files and open them in photoshop. While photoshop performance is a consideration, my biggest concern is to be able to open ACR images ridiculously quick.
Right now, working off 21 megapixel images on my current system, it takes between 10 - 20 seconds to open/convert a single file into photoshop. I'm aiming for a couple of seconds.
My current system (please don't laugh ... I know its bad):
XP 32-Bit
dual-core 2.00GHz
3G DDR2 Ram (with 3G switch enabled)
5400 rpm Hard Drives
Running CS4 and ACR 5.3
Future Set Up Considerations:
Vista 64-Bit
Processor/RAM
a) quad-core-Q9600 3.00 GHz with 8 gigs DDR2 (1150MHz)
b) i7-920 2.66 GHz with 12 gigs of DDR3 (1600 MHz) - adds about $500 to price - worth it?
c) 2 Xeon-quad-core-5530 2.40 GHz with 6gigs DDR3 (1600Mhz) - adds about $1000 to price - worth it?
d) something AMD?!?!
Hard Drives (7200rpm)
2 for images storage (one as an internal backup)
1 For operating system, applications, music, etc
1 For scratch disk
Basically, the question comes down to whether extra cores or extra ram will ultimately make the biggest difference in the ACR performance
During my testing on my (sad) currently system, here are my conclusions (let me know what you think):
Changing the 3G switch to allow the jump from 2 to 3 gigs of ram usage for applications makes no difference in performance
When I am opening up ACR files both cores show 100% usage (will that continue over 4 or 8 cores?)
Photoshop in general seems to be more CPU limited in my case than ram limited (most of the time is says 100% efficiency but things still take bloody long
From some more experienced users, or users who have quad or octa core system or systems with insane amount of ram, I woudl really appreciate your feedback!
Thanks for the long read!
~
Justin

Hey Zeno!
Thanks for the reply.
I would have to disagree thought that it is hard drive limited at this moment. Take a look at my task manager:
It was running about 5% before I started converting pictures, and then as soon as I started converting the pictures, both cores hit 100% (with little gaps between pictures), and then back to 5% after they were done. You can also see the ram alocation being increased with each picture that is opened.
So basically, I am wondering if going to a quad core will have all 4 CPU's hit 100%, thus coming close to doubling the speed. Or if I go i7 then with hyper threading it'll go to 8 effective cores. Or if I go to dual Xeon processors I'd have 8 cores and with hyperthreading effectively 16 cores.
I am wondering if anyone has experience with a quad core or octacore system that might be able to share some insight.
But I would agree that probably for now 6Gs of ram is probably plenty.
I also don't understand when you said:
"same goes with the CPU, the more cores you have the less benefit you get out of adding more of them"
Could you elaborate. Its just that it takes about 15-20 seconds to convert a single file, and space that out even over 50 photos, that is still 15 minutes of wasted time. Just trying to get the best I can without wasting needlessly.
Thanks a ton!
~
Justin

Output sharpening in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and Photoshop CS5

Output sharpening in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and Photoshop CS5
I want to do two-pass sharpening - capture and output - with output capture done just before I print. I do the initial (capture) sharpening in the ACR Detail/Sharpening panel, with Amount slider set to, for example, 100. Then, I open the image to PS CS5 as a Smart Object, and use layers and masks for further editting.
My question is, can I go back to ACR for the final (output) sharpening pass? When I re-open the file in ACR, the Sharpening Amount slider is back to zero, but the other three sliders are still at the settings I used at the start of the process, i.e., the capture sharpening. If I again set the Amount slider to a positive value, then again open the image in PS for printing, will my second pass through the ACR Sharpening panel take effect - will it accumulate on top of the initial sharpening?
By the way, the reason I want do output sharpening in ACR rather than, say, PS Unsharp Mask, is so I can use the Masking slider in ACR, which is much easier than the comparable techniques available in PS. I am aware that some say you should not do any masking for the output sharpening. I'd like to though.
Thanks for ideas.

This is pretty much the way I do it, and I also always found ACR sharpening superior to anything in Photoshop. There is the "sharpen for output" in ACR, but you have little control over it.
The tricky part is feeding the file through ACR a second time. I don't think re-opening the Smart Object will do anything more than you could have done the first time. I do it with a rendered TIFF, and have an intricate set of actions that I run in the Image Processor Pro. It's a mess, and you don't want to know.
The frustrating part is how to action ACR. I just can't figure it out. It'll work, and then I have to change some setting and the action stops working. I suspect you need a script, but so far I haven't found any.
So I've come to a compromise: I first process to TIFF in a temp folder, then I bulk open them in ACR to sharpen, then a second process to finish up.
For less critical files I have a sharpening action that comes close, involving edge masks and blend ifs, using smart sharpen which tends to preserve edges better than unsharp mask, and with less accumulation of noise.
Bottom line: I'm also very interested in further comments to this. BTW, I recently bought Lightroom 4, so maybe there is a posibility using that in a mixed workflow.

Can I skip "Complete Toning in Adobe Camera Raw"

I select some pictures in Lightroom and then choose Edit In -> Photoshop HDR Pro. If I choose 32 Bit, there is an option box for "Complete Toning in Adobe Camera Raw". If I do NOT check this box, am I losing something? That is, if I want to do all of the exposure adjustment, etc. in Lightroom, then can I just click "OK" with "Complete Toning in Adobe Camera Raw" unchecked?
Thanks,
David

No, not at all. This is the correct method for creating 32 bit images to edit in Lightroom. Just convert to 32 bit - leave Complete toning in ACR Unchecked and save the resulting 32 bit Tiff back into Lightroom

16-Bit Workflow in Adobe Camera RAW 6.3

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