23 disconnects today and counting

Hi, appealing to the forum for help as my 4th call with India today (since the original call I made on the 17th April) has left me with the answer "wait until we call you back on Friday 27th April.
The original call was about broadband dropping connection / slow speed. After a very unstable day of connections I called the help line. I've checked filters, tested the master socket, physically binned a cordless phone and replaced it with a new corded phone on a new filter etc.
On Thursday last week the call I had with India advised leave to stabilise until Monday (today) - over the weekend the connection dropped once a day - downstream speed has not moved from 568Kbps and upstream has been an equally appalling dial up speed of 40Kbps.
Today, Monday 23rd April, the connection has dropped 23 times. India called at 3.30PM, ran me through a speed test which concurred with my terrible speeds shown by the Home Hub 3 software and advised me now to wait until Friday.
Do I really need to put up with this many disconnects until Friday?
Here's the latest speed test and ADSL line stats.:-
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed 0.23 Mbps
0 Mbps 0.5 Mbps Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 0.23 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.1 Mbps-0.5 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 0.5 Mbps
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed 0.37 Mbps
0 Mbps 0.83 Mbps Max Achievable Speed
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.37Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
Connection Information
Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 days, 00:05:31
Downstream: 568.3 Kbps
Upstream: 531.6 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.3 Annex A
Latency type: Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up): 21.1 dB / 6.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 54.3 dB / 29.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 14.1 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 1
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 2004 / 488
Any help for an approach that will get some action sooner than Friday much appreciated!
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Hi, yes took the lower half of the main socket off and used the test socket. It's not conveniently located for the computer so I've gone back to an extension socket that has always been used for the computer. Quiet line test is quiet. No sky box or alarm or anything else on the other socket.
Broadband dropped while I was typing this!
I notice noise margin has been very up and down on every reconnect - right now downstream showing as 2.4Mbps and upstream as 159Kbps, noise margine down/up as 6.5db/9/9db.
Is the reconnection likely to be something actually been done to the line at the exchange?
Our local exchange is Moreton in Marsh and we're a little out in the sticks - I remember a previous BT engineer visit bemoaning a constant problem with the local cabinet I think.

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