29.97 export at 24fps

I have a project at 29.97, but I need to have it play at 24fps. Can I simply export it at 24fps with no problems? Conforming it in Cinema Tools slows it down. A festival is requiring it be 24fps to make a DCP. I don't want to run it through After Effects.
thanks.

Use compressor for this. Convert to any frame rate you see fit.

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How to export a 24fps project

I'm exporting a 24fps timeline sequence, in FCP 4.5, do I have to convert this in cinema tools to 23.98 or 29.97 before I can export a quicktime or put to tape?
Also if the timeline is anamorphic how do I keep an anamorphic setting in a quicktime movie format?
Thanks

I edit in 24FPS DV-50 all the time. I mostly use the Desktop Cinema on a color corrected LCD for editing. When I need to see the footage on a consumer tube TV, I use a DV camcorder via Firewire as the playback device.
Final Cut Pro (or perhaps my camcorder) adds the Pulldown to 29.97FPS on the fly automatically. This means I rarely need to convert the footage at all. With my camcorder, JVC GR-HD1, the DV-50 signal is also instantly down-converted to DV-25 on the fly for the camcorder. That way, I can keep source footage in DV-50 in case I need to do advanced color correction, but still use consumer video devices for playback and mastering.
I even leave the footage as 24FPS when creating MPEG2's for DVD since all DVD Players can add pulldown on the fly and you get a much higher quality image when the footage is paused in 24FPS.
There are a few times when using a sequence in 29.97FPS is slightly better. When you do a lot of dissolves, consider doing them in a 29.97FPS sequence since 24FPS footage will look alot more strobic since in 29.97FPS the sequence is actually field rendering dissolves at 60 fields per second. That's nearly 3x as smooth as a 24FPS dissolve. The difference is quite noticable.
To convert a 24FPS sequence to 29.97FPS, just export the 24FPS as a self-contained movie, import it, then place it into a 29.97fps sequence. You may need to render. I would not recommend exporting directly to a different frame rate because it can cause strange cadence errors and white flashes at cuts which I don't have time to explain here.

Frame Skip on MPEG2-DVD Export with 24fps source file to 23.976

I'm trying to solve an issue that I've been having for the past week on a DVD I'm hoping to get to the factory for replication by New Years.
My source file is a TRUE 24.00fps 1080p Quicktime Uncompressed (it was shot on film, and originally released on film...that's why it's true 24 instead of 23.976)
I put it in a 720x480 24fps sequence in Premiere CS5, and exported as an MPEG2-DVD for my upcoming DVD. I used the following settings:
Quality 5
Frame Rate: 23.976
Field Order: Progressive
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 16:9
Render At Maximum Depth
VBR 1-Pass
Min: 2.8
Target: 6
Max: 9
GOP Settings:
M Frames: 3
N Frames: 12
The resulting DVD always seems fine when I'm playing it, the motion and field order look great. But in the exact same scene with a heavy-motion steadicam shot through a hallway, there always seems to be a frame skipping. An entire frame that just goes missing for no apparent reason. It is not a consistent frame....it changes every time I encode, but it is always within 2 or 3 seconds of the same place in the movie. The wierd part is the movie doesn't seem to fall out of sync....this frame just disappears.
Any help would be much appreciated. This is driving me up a wall!!!!
Thanks,
Doron Kipper
DoronKipper -a t- gmail.com
www.MisdirectionMovie.net

1st, you should not put your email in a message, since it WILL be harvested & used by spammers
2nd, I don't do 24p but isn't there a "pull down" setting you have to use?

Exporting to 24fps

I am just about to finish a 60+ minute documentary which was shot and edited in an NTSC DV50 29.97fps timeline.
However, I am not too happy with how the footage looks and I would like to convert it to 24fps to give it a more film-like quality. (unfortunately, I did not have the option to shoot in 24fps)
What would be best way to export the entire project/sequence to 24 fps? The final output will be on DVD. I have read through this website, and I have also read the Apple profile for "murderball" where 24fps and 29.97fps footage was edited in a 29.97fps timeline but delievered as 24fps piece. If anyone could help me out with this issue I would greatly appreciate it.
thanks.

Pulldown cadence...
To make 24 fps into 30fps you must combine a few frames together... FCP will do this for you. There are two types of cadence - normal, 3:2 and Advanced 2:3:3:2 -- FCP will REMOVE advanced pulldown on the fly when capturing from footage shot with this added (dvx 100 et al)
Your DVD player will add the standard cadence... 3:2 as it is more pleasing to the eye when watching. All TV sit-coms shot on film use this. You might hear it called telecine.
Color Grading... or color correction or just grading... the ART - yes, ART... of making a film look stylistly pleasing. Watch those behind the scenes and you'll see video of a scene shot and then the shot as it was seen in the theaters... the difference is the art of the colorist. AMAZING technicians. Adding look and feel to film. Yes, Kodak stock will look different than Fuji and Kodak 200 different than 500 -- but it's the colorist that gives the unity to the look.
Traffic is my favorite film for this -- each story has a different color... or grading. Check it out.
You can do this with the FCP color corector -- but other programs offer better - sorry - more robust options.
Good luck,
CaptM

I cannot export a slideshow at 24fps from Aperture 3?

I import clips to Aperture 3 filmed at 24fps on a Canon EOS 60D and when I try to use the custom settings to export at 24fps, it changes it to 30-35fps. The custom settings are useless in Aperture 3 as it still does whatever it wants. The only way I can export anything properly is to film at 30fps and export on the standard 720p or 1080p HD settings (which automatically selects 30fps).
Is it simply impossible to export a slideshow with HD dSLR motion in it at 24fps even if all clips are filmed at 24fps? I need a definitive answer on this. Please.

I can't give you a definitive answer, but I don't think you can do it. Aperture is not a video editing or motion graphics program. A3 is the first version of the application to support video import or slide show output. It targets specific devices and only has two codecs.
AFAIK the 7D was the first DSLR- and the first camera under $3K- to offer 24p. Before 2010, only pro videographers shot 24fps
IMHO A3 is the wrong tool for the job, and you should be using video editing program Like Final Cut or a motion graphics program like Motion or After Effects.
The good news is that Motion 5 is only $50 on the app store. Previously, it was only available as part of the Final Cut Suite, but I can't find anything that says one has to have Final Cut X to buy or use it. (System requirements are pretty steep.)
DLS

Export Quicktime = stalling / frame rate / dropped frames

Firstly this issue isn't news. It appears it has existed since 2002 at least on these forums and Apple has done nothing.
Exporting to Quicktime:
1) Keynote makes up what seem to be consistent random frame rates on export
- Codec doesn't matter. Photo JPG, Intermediate, 8bit 422, H264
- You can set the frame rate in export / custom / settings it doesn't matter
- Having no video on a slide or having video on a slide doesn't change the problem...
- The last two items do have more information to complete their story
- If you do have a video on slide at say 25fps and export (at same rate) the random will stabilise
but it will stabilise to something bizarre, such as 23.69.
- So Keynote can wreck your frame rate it will drop frames, or even add frames while dropping
others. It is deeply sophisticated in how it destroys stuff on export.
Result
- is a stuttering output if embed video on a slide with a wrecked frame rate
- and a random frame rate if you don't have a video embed
2) The video stalls between slides
- Keynote seems to play a trick by making a single frame span multiple frames
- At the start of the first slide this seems to vary. The first frame can be between 7 and 33
frames depending on some strange internal logic only known to Keynote
- Between slides it will hold the last frame of the exiting slide usually for 7 frames and hold
the first frame of the entering slide for usually the same amount.
- No amount of change to settings such as transition delay, adding a transition, self play etc
will effect this stalling from what I can tell.
- You can analyse the reality of the issue by dropping the resulting file into Quicktime 7 and
changing the video window "time code" display to frames by clicking on it and single framing
through the video. I have Quicktime Pro for the record.
Notes:
- I have every update installed and am running 10.6.2
- I have tried it on two machines, one a clean build, server or client
- Playing the presentation direct in Keynote does not present any of the noted issues
- I have spent the better part of two weeks on the issue trying all sorts of combinations
- Video of different frames rates, sizes, codecs. All useless, don't bother.
Outcome:
- Keynote is completely useless unless you just want to play a presentation in it
- Dropped frames, stuttering video, stalling, mangled frame rates, fake frames
Solutions that aren't:
- One suggestion for video embeds is to enter a strange custom frame rate. For example a
24fps original turns into a 23.69 export, if you up the frame rate to 24.3 the resulting export
is 24fps.
This is a truly hit and miss affair and will require a lot of testing to nail it. Unfortunately I
tested the resulting video frame count in Quicktime against the original video and...
The amount of frames is not the same. Part of my assumption is that the stalled pad frames
are being considered by Keynote and it drops some frames to fake the same length, that at
least -seems- to be part of the result, but it doesn't account for all the lost frames.
- I have also tried just having one slide and exporting that. The same things happen regardless
How Al Gore managed to make "inconvenient truth" using Keynote is a complete mystery. Maybe on Tiger with some old version it used to work, yet from the forums it would appear it has never worked. This piece of software is a clear case of "it just doesn't work"
I hope you find this and stop hurting yourself trying to make this. I might hurt on a bit longer yet.

I can't answer in detail (I started with version 6, which I haven't used in years, so don't know what v5 did) but... a general comment
Software that old is very likely going to struggle trying to edit a VOB/MPG file copies from a DVD
If you are digitizing by playing the DVD through a conversion device you should end up with DV AVI which should edit well
Just what kind of files are you trying to edit?

Sync problem From DV-PAL 24fps from AVID

Hi,
I have received a DV-PAL file from an Avid media composer. The file is an export at 24fps. When i play it with quicktime there is no problem but when i import it to FCP, the file is not in sync.
It appears in the parameters that the file is considered at 23,98fps in FCP and not 24fps.
I tried to trash preferences and rebot but it didn't solve the problem.
any help ?
thanks

When i open in quicktime and hit command-i ; it's 24fps.
I'm working sound, and i just wanted to change the original sound of the quicktime movie and put a "premix", made in protools. Everything was in sync in protools but not in FCP.
I succeeded to put the sound with the image at the correct speed, staying in quicktime with the "paste" function.
But, i now want to understand why the file didn't play in sync in FCP so i'm trying to investigate.
I've just begin a conversion in apple prores422 10 bits. i will report back

Can iMovie 11 REALLY import and edit 24FPS video?

Hi,
I contacted technical support to ask a pre-sales question:
Can iMovie 11 import and work with 24FPS video shot at 1920x1080P? I ask this because the new Nikon D7000 captures video at this frame rate, and I know the Canon EOS 7D and 5D MarkII also do. I was told "yes" by the technical support rep.
Can someone please confirm whether you can import/edit/export a 24FPS timeline?
Thanks so much.

AWESOME! Thanks AppleLou for checking and performing your own test!
I will be purchasing the upgrade to iLife 11 now
Best Regards,
Rico

Exporting cut off?!!

When i export footage to .wmv and go back and watch it, it gets cut at the 23 second mark every time, this is extremley frutrating. i also would like to know how to set your timeline for 24fps, as well as export in 24fps. thanks guys
G5 dual 2 ghz ATI 9800w/256mb Mac OS X (10.0.x)

are you using a demo from flip for mac.demo version has 30 sec limit.
for 24 frame set up your sequence that way. look in easy setups to see if there is one already made or get close to what you want capture etc highlight the sequence and adjust the settings accordingly. make sure the same frame rate is in capture as well as sequence. when you shoot if your in dv you'll have to do 24PA to be able to remove pulldown the edit. lots of posts on how to 24PA

60fps - 30fps - 24fps for slight slo-mo?

So I'm recording a musicvideo with my band. We would like to have a slight slo-mo effect from overcranking, and slowing down 30fps to 24fps.
The problem here is that my camera, a sony a6000, only records 24 and 60fps. Is it possible to record @ 60 fps, remove every other frame, ie. convert to 30fps, and then slow down to 80% speed/24fps?
What would the proper way to do that in premiere be, with avchd files from the camera?
Or would it be better to record @ 60fps and slow down to 80%, and then just finally export to 24fps?
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Timewarp in after effects is almost as good as twixtor (it's got few tweaks for difficult scenes but does pretty well). Unfortunately you do have to drop in to After Effects to use it
I was rather hoping it was going to be in CS6 like Warp Stablizer is, because those were the two effects I used most.

Mac vs. PC for Premiere Pro CC with a budget of...

$3300.00 ... That's what I'm budgeting.
Warning:
I know any post of Mac vs. PC can spark a lively debate and I sense much of this forum's base are PC users but hopefully I'll get some honest and sound advice/purchase options.
Purpose:
I'm a current Mac user not wanting really to go back to PC but I'm about to make a purchase so I wanna be open to the idea if it's gonna make life better for me while editing. As crazy/stupid as it sounds...my fear of returning to the PC world is mostly because of my memory of the years of having to deal with the need for Virus Protection on a PC. I have bad memories from having to renew/pay for that every year and it slowing things down and ultimately my last PC was infected and crashed. But my editing is what I do 6 days a week on this computer for work. I used to be a FCP user so Macs made sense but now I'm all in on Premiere Pro CC so maybe a PC would be best...or maybe I should just stay with Mac. Who knows?! Bottom line: I use Premiere, Audition, Encore and Photoshop with 90% of it on Premiere (using basic cuts, cross dissolves, extensive use of Warp Stabilizer, and the occasional gaussian blur). I also use this computer to go online. That's about it. Mostly.
Current State:
I have a 2011 iMac with a 27" screen. Love that size. It has 3.4 GHz i7, 16GB 1333 RAM, AMD 6970M 1GB VRAM GPU, 120GB SSD (OWC 6G) running the OS and apps, and I also have a Elite Pro Dual eSata HDD + Thunderbolt adapter (RAID 0) from MacSales.com that I currently use as my scratch drive.
Option #1:
I was just about to purchase the newest iMac with most of the upgrades for what would be $3300. The upcoming 2013 Mac Pro looks nice and I love the idea of being able to upgrade as I go, but it doesn't come with a screen and I can't necessarily afford it when you add that in. Plus it doesn't come out for a couple months and honestly I have a great offer in right now on my iMac that I'm about to sell.
The iMac I was intending to get as soon as next week was:
2013 iMac with the 27" Screen
3.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel i7 ("Turboboost" up to 3.9 GHz)
1TB "Fusion" Drive (Apple's 120 SSD + 1TB HDD mix)
32 GB of 1600 MHz RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M (4GB VRAM)
4 USB 3.0 Ports
2 Thunderbolt Ports
PRICE: $3300 (about)
Option #2:
A PC of some sort that's upgradable going forward and optimized for what I use it for primarily (see underlined and bold above). I truly have been out of the PC world sooo long and I know that each "side" has their advantages. I love Mac but I'm just wanting to get the best machine for Premiere for my budget. I've been a loyal mac user for years but I'm no fan boy (eg. I happily own a Galaxy S3 by choice) I was excited to get the newest iMac released just a couple weeks ago but then tonight I saw this site (http://pcpartpicker.com/) and started thinking about my options.
I will be selling my 2011 iMac to help pay for the new one so I can't keep this one. That money has factored into my budget. It's been great but I feel like it drags and hangs with MPE enabled sometimes so I figured a newer computer would help.
Also...SSD. I have read great things from various posts about the Samsung 840 Pro SSD's so I may pick one or two up eventually to supplement or replace my current scratch drive.
I'd love someone to toss out if I should go option #1 or if there's a better Option #2 out there.
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1. You don't need a separate audio card, audio is included on the motherboard.
2. Do you need wifi on the motherboard? Then look at the P9X79 DeLuxe.
Re: #1) Done! No idea about that.
Re: #2) Again, no idea. You tell me, do I need wifi on the motherboard or not? And I don't see that DeLuxe option. I'm just picking things that sound nice outside of what you had for your "Low-End Warrior Setup". I'd honestly rather you tell me what works and what doesn't because again, I have almost no idea here.
Like I said before, I totally guessed on the type of RAM (brand? 1600 vs 1866? etc), the Case (all I knew was to get a Full Tower), the OS (8 vs 8.1 vs. 32bit vs 64bit), and the monitor (comparible to iMac's 27" monitor?) and other things like sound cards and wireless network adapters (of which I may not need apparently). Also, I switched the GPU to the GTX 770 because it's listed on Adobe's supported cards list. Not that the 760 wouldn't work but maybe this one "future proofs" it a bit more and plus most of the footage we handle is 60fps edited and exported at 24fps so according to that Tweaker's link above, a great GPU help. It does have 4GB VRAM instead of 2gb so I don't know what difference that makes but I figure its better. As for "brand" I took a wild guess and went with Gigabyte, not sure if that's good or not. FYI: By comparison the iMac I'm debating has a GTX 780M GPU with 4GB VRAM. You tell me if this was smart. Still under budget.
So many questions remain. cc_merchant, feel free to lay out your wisdom and help me shape my purchase based on what you know. I like hearing things like "don't need that" or switch it out for "this one" instead. If it goes over $3300 by a touch (not too much), that's okay as long as it's gonna be THAT much better than the spec'd out 2013 iMac listed above.
Thx again.
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Working with 48fps footage in Premiere CC

Hi there,
I am currently working on a 24fps project with R3D footage in Premiere.
Some of the footage for a new sequence I am working on was shot at 48fps (and will need to be exported to 24fps while retaining 48fps' slow motion effect) and I am unsure how to go about this.
Can Premiere play back in the program monitor at 48fps? Can it interpret/render 48fps footage to export to 24fps while retaining the original attributes of the 48fps footage? Or would I need to use additional software to accomplish this?
Ideally I would like to be able to edit/playback the footage at the correct frame rate within Premiere as I need to synchronise it with music to see which segments of the clips I have will work best.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

If I'm understanding you right. Your R3D footage is a baseline of 24fps (or 23.976fps) but was overcranked on the camera to 48fps, meaning it should playback half the speed of realtime. I don't know much about camera settings but normally the camera processes this internally and then spits it out at 24fps but was actually overcranked for slow-motion. Arri Alexa does this internally. I have worked on R3D slow-mo before and I know it processes it internally also.
Unless the red camera has a setting to turn that off I do not know. The important part is; is the footage at 24fps or 48fps BASELINE and how much excess fps was set to overcrank in the camera settings? (i.e was it set to 'squeeze' 48fps into 24fps)? Normally premiere pro cc is good at reading the footage's baseline fps value in the browser.
But to interpret footage inside of premiere pro cc, its easy - all you do is bring in your footage into the browser, then right click on it, go to modify then interpret footage; in the menu at the top, change the fps value interpretation from 48fps to 24fps (or whatever baseline you want) and then click ok. Drop the clip onto a timeline matching the rest of your baseline fps and it should be slow-mo. You should see the value of the clip's timecode length increase double in the browser metadata.
Hope that helps, let me know how it goes. Be useful if you can take screen grabs of the metadata so we can see what your looking at.
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Adobe Media Encoder 4.2 update forces Frame Blend

I didn't really want to repost, but I felt the title and info in my previous post were innacurate (http://forums.adobe.com/message/2576915#2576915)
In my previous post, I thought Premiere was to blame, but after a few reinstallations, I've found that the update to AME 4.2 causes the problem.
I've found that Adobe Media Encoder 4.2 forces Frame Blend, even if it has been disabled on each clip of the timeline, when the frame rate of your sequence settings differ from the frame rate of the target format.
Example: Exporting from 24fps Desktop -> MPEG2-DVD (23.976fps)
Adobe Media Encoder 4.1 does not have this behavior. I've reverted to 4.1 for the time being.
If anyone has a workaround for this, or any other info on this problem, please share.

I am having a similar problem. Is it just me or is it Adobe? I have had so many problems with Adobe Premiere CS4. It may have also been exacerbated by the fact the I updated to 4.2.1 (mostly in part to determine if another issue was resolved with this update).
I have some editing background in the Windows Movie Maker and iMovie world, and was excited to use Adobe Premiere, but I have had nothing but problems.
Everything that I am trying to do, looks really washed out, and renders the video useless.
I am trying to do what you just described, with speeding up and slowing video to match the computer actions with the person's voice. I am capturing video using CamStudio and Helix YV12 CODEC, and tried to use HuffyUV lossless compression: using DV-NTSC as the standard format.
Then I go to compose my video, and output the video, but the video is crap. It sounds like the Adobe Premiere and Media Encoder are having major problems.
I tried rendering it to Uncompressed Microsoft AVI with UYVY @ 100% quality, and tried to compare it with Windows Media at the highest quality, and it is frustrating. When I hear that Frame Blend is being applied, it seems to look worse.
I am running:
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU 2.33 GHz (which is kind of slow)
8 GB RAM, 2 SATA 1 TB Drives WD Caviar Green (a little substandard)
Windows XP 64-bit
Let me know there is another process that I am missing. I don't really want to give up on Adobe Premiere, but from a end-user standpoint, I will have to revert back to using WMM due to time constraints. I want to take full advantage of all of the editing and effects capabilities of Premiere, but can't because I can't even produce a decent export to be used by any other program (and given that every conversion will in some way affect the quality of the output, I want to reduce any intermediate steps).
Arrggh!!!

Video problems in DVD SP burned DVDs - FCP frame rate issue?

Please help! We have a 99 minute feature project that we shot in 24p (NOT 24pa) on a DVX100, imported the footage into FCP in 29.97fps, and edited in a 24fps sequence timeline. When we exported the sequence through compressor (DVD High Quality 120min 4:3 option) to create the 23.98fps mpeg-2 and burned it to a DVD using DVD Studio Pro (with aiff audio because DVD SP had a problem importing the Dolby file for some reason), the movie image had blurring or ghosting when played on a dvd player and looked very "digital" (not like 24p).
After reading several postings on here, we thought the problem may have been because we were coming from a 24p timeline. Following a suggestion made to another post, we exported the 24fps sequence into a Quicktime movie and then imported that back into FCP and put it in a 29.97fps timeline. It needed rendering and we did that. Then we exported the new 29.97 sequence through Compressor into a 29.97 mpeg-2 and burned with DVD SP. When played on a DVD player, the video looked better this time, but appears to be moving in a sort of slow motion.
Because of the length of the project, we've been using dual layer DVDs, but the break point doesn't seem to be causing any problems. Also, we've slightly decreased the "Average Bit Rate" in Compressor from 5 to 4.5 before creating the mpeg-2, etc. files because the default description of the 120min high quality setting said "90 minutes of video with AIFF on DVD-5" and our movie is 99min. Taking it down to 4.5 changed the default description to "102 or 103 minutes".
Each time we burn, the video and audio seem to be completely in sync... it looks as though the problem is with the speed and I don't know at this point if this is frame rate, bit rate, pulldown, method of burning (i.e. DVD SP rather than something like Toast).
Sorry for the long post but I wanted to try and include all the info I could. If anything is unclear or I left anything out, please ask. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Thank you, thank you, thank you thrillcat and Silal! Getting rid of the render files and then copying the 24 sequence into the new 29.97 sequence worked like a charm. There were some minor things to fix (small gaps between certain cuts, audio and video clips that needed to be lengthened or cut by a couple of frames) but overall very painless... especially when compaired with the prospect of having to re-edit or re-import all our footage (as the guy from Apple tech support suggested).
On the advice of our sound editor, we exported the 29.97 sequence using Quicktime Conversion into a DV Stream choosing DVC Pro in the Options field. We then burned the resulting file onto a regular 4.7GB DVD using DVD Studio Pro. And PRESTO, our movie was back in its wonderful 24p state!
I greatly appreciate everyone's help. Thanks again!
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.7)

AVCHD--1920x1080 24p native--final cut express

New to FCE and video. I shot a bunch of video on a Canon HFS 21 in 1920 x 1080 24p native. I am trying to import it into FCE, but it looks like FCE wants me to degrade my video to import it and edit. Same goes for some video I shot with my Canon Mark IV, which was also 24 p. Is there anyway to work with FCE and 24p native or do I need to upgrade to FCS? Thanks in advance.

I just got a Panasonic GH2 which can shoot in 1080p24 and I edit with FCE. What I have figured out is that if you just use a 29.97fps timeline, it plays the 24fps video fine. Then when you export the project at the end, just export back to 24fps and it should line back up with the original 24fps of the video you shot and not skip or duplicate any frames.
The one thing that might be a problem is that when you tell FCE to export at 24fps, it actually does what I think is a pull-down and exports at 23.98 fps. This may mean that once in a great while there is a dropped frame. If you do the same thing but use a 25fps timeline in FCE the actual exported rate is 24.04 I think. This is worse as there will be duplicate frames twice as often.
If you are concerned about the dropped frames with using the 29.97fps timeline in FCE, export to a lossless (or near lossless) format at 29.97fps (ie by not using "Quicktime Conversion"), then post process the result in JES De-interlacer (free), using "standards conversion" to convert the video from 29.97 to 24fps (use telecine mode, not blend). This will resample the frame rate to exactly 24fps and you should be good. Link:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
I have noticed some weird jumpy stuff if I slow down a 24p clip in FCE where the camera was panning left and try to fight that by moving the clip right on the canvas (the faster frame rate of the FCE motion keyframe move fighting the slower frame rate of the original video moving in the opposite direction), but I assume that would also happen with 30p or 60i video in that situation if you slowed it down enough - just the 24fps video is making it more obvious at less extreme speed reductions.
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