2nd HDD drive on optical bay caddy - Pavilion dv6700

Hi everybody,
I hope that someone here can help with that, because I'm running out of ideas...
I recently updated the main drive of my dv6700 notebook (dv6820es) with a SSD drive. I did a fresh installation of Win_7_32 and there was no problem at all.
But this drive is not that big, so I decided to plug in the old SATA-HDD through the optical drive bay in order to gain storage capacity. I ordered for that a SATA-to-PATA caddy that fits perfectly.
The big problem now is to make this combination work:
BIOS behavior: it's hard to tell if the BIOS detects the the drive properly, as long as this model BIOS is quite poor in information/configuration options. Anyway, when I press F9 with the 2nd HDD plugged in, a new boot option appears along with the SSD, and is listed as "7. Notebook hard drive". The HDD is spinning also. Because of all that I assume that the BIOS detects, at least, "something" (but again, I can't say if the HDD as it is or just some unknown decive). By the way, the BIOS is updated to the latest available version: F.58 A.
Windows behavior: for what I can see, Windows acts as if the drive wasn't there. Nothing in the "Device manager" and nothing in the "Disk manager", just the SSD drive is detected. With one exception, in one of the many restarts I did the drive showed up. The usual text bubble said "intalling drive..." and apparently it installed fine. After the installation there was this new "IDE drive" under "Disk drives" in the "Windows device manager". Fine, it seemed to work! But sadly I saw my hopes getting dashed in the next step, when trying to initialise the disk through the "Disk manager". First it took a long time (like 4-5 minutes) with the program just "thinking", to finally throw one of these infamous "cyclic redundancy" errors. I restarted but the drive was again not there. And it never showed up again, just this one time.
Sad thing is that I can't tell what made the difference. I updated some things like the Intel chip drivers... this Intel Matrix Storage driver (not really necessary, I guess, but just in case)... during all this process. But actually nothing in particular the time it almost worked.
My ATA drivers are the newest AHCI available for my chipset. Is there some driver I'm missing? Is there some impossibility for the 2nd HDD (PATA) to work with the SSD running in AHCI mode?
Well, I think that's all (sorry for the long post).Perhaps someone endured/solved a similar issue.
Please share your knowledge
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PeterPaul wrote:
Hello Erico,
sorry for the confusing information.
The HDD is a SATA drive and the optical drive is a PATA drive, hence I used a SATA-PATA caddy. Something like that:
http://www.newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_5&products_id=226
(Though the one I ordered it's not from this manufacturer)
Considering that, although the HDD is a SATA drive, it should be detected as a PATA one. Is there some way to make both SATA AHCI and PATA interfaces work together?  Not in this case. It takes a ethusiast level motherboard and advanced BIOS.
[Edit: the chipset is, by the way, from the Mobile Intel 965 Express Family.]
Perhaps the one in the link has a better  translation cable setup than the one you purchased. Many people appear to be satisfied with it.
The hard drives physical connection have to be of the same type for the reason I expressed in my previous post unless there is a working translation cable from SATA to PATA.
 If your notebook had a dual drive bay and you installed the drive in the bay with a caddy and SATA cononector cable it would be simple.
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