3-d party proc. intercompany

Dear SD Gurus,
Is it possible to use the Third party processing scenario in an intercompany situation?
Example: we have in SAP two companies; one is manufacturing and the other is distributing. The flow of goods from the manufacturing to the distribution is managed by intercompany STOs. So far so good, no problem.
Now, in few cases, the manufacturing company is purchasing the FGs from an external vendor (for various reasons). Since in our business we deal with large volume and weight and low value materials, it doesn't make economical sense that the materials would be sent by the vendor actually to the manufacturing plant, and then moved again to the distribution plant. We want that the vendor supplies directly to the distribution company.
Third part process is exactly what we want, but I have doubts that if it can be implemented in such a scenario (where the customer is another company in SAP, and using intercompany billing).
Could you shed some light?
Thanks,
Mario

Thank you for the reply.
This is clear, but it is not a streamlined process. All these transactions are done in vain, and not real time. Also the GR in the distribution company cannot be done before, so the goods cannot be processed right away and have to wait.
I was looking at the pssibility to use the business process of 3-d party for this scenario, hopping that it may be possible. It is much better and more streamlined process.
Do you happen to know if it can be done?
Thanks,
Mario

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Dear All
Is Third Party and intercompany billing is same.
Thanks in Advance
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No. Both are two separate process.
Incase of Inter-Company Billing, the same group company is being billed, where as in case of third party billing, our company bills an external customer. Configurration & process for both are very different.
For additional information on the same, please refer to link below:
Link: http://help.sap.com/
Path: SAP Best Practices --> Baseline Packages --> Based on SAP ECC 5.00 --> Select Country: for eg, Localized for India --> Technical Information --> Building Blocks --> Select Country for eg, India --> List of Basic Configuration & scenarios will be listed.
Select the required basic configuration / scenario. These will consist of overview, configuration guide, business process, master data &so on ...........
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2. Third Party without Shipping Notification.
Similarly, Even Inter-company scenario can be mapped differently.
You can get good information from help.sap.com
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Can any one tell me the difference between third party sales & intercompany

Hai
can any one tell me the difference between third party sales & intercompany billing
reg

Hi,
In THIRD PARTY, Goods are sent to customer from the Vendor and no Delivery happens from Company Plant
In THIRD PARTY, We will Pay to the Vendor and Bills Customer.
In THIRD PARTY, the PR will be generated automatically from the Sales order
In INTERCOMPANY Process, Goods are sent to customer from the Supplying Company code to which an order was placed from the Ordering Company code
In INTERCOMPANY,, Plant of the supplying company code will be assigned to the Ordering Sales Organisation
In INTERCOMPANY , We Bills the customer and settles to the SUPPLY COMPANY CODE
We will use two Pricing procedures, One Normal pricing and other is INTERCOMPANY pricing procedure.
These are the Major differences.
Please check these and revert back if you need more details
regards,
santosh

Order and Third Party Related Intercompany Billing

Dear All ,
I am facing a problem in creation of third party order relevant intercompany billing .
We have created commercial invoice from one co. code , but not able to create interco. invoice on the other co. code .
Error message while creation of intercompany billing : No open Billing quantity has been determined .
In our organisation , two co. codes are used because under one co. code sales is booked and under other co. code plant is entered .
Hence , there is an involvement of commercial billing ( order related ) and intercompany billing ( which is also order - related ) .
Help which customisation needs to be changed / amended to resolve the issue .
Thanks .

Hi
Check item category TAS as billing relevance Fif you do MIGO and MIRO, you can bill the quantity
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Hello,
I need to know if third party PO is applicable to intercompany process.
I will try to explain:
One of my plants buy to vendor a stock material, but the receipt will be made in another plant.
The vendor bill to the buyer plant and dispatch to the second.
Then, the first plant bill an intercompany invoice to the second plant with a specific margin.
Please, be noted that both plants are in the same client.
I will be very appreciated of your comments on.
Best regards,
Hugo.

Hi Hugo,
we have an official process for that I think. It is discussed in the course SCM680 as "The Cross-Company-Code Sales Process". If you or somebody at your company have access to service.sap.com/trainingcontent, you can get some details there.
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Hello
In finished process of third party processing, and I have still status of Sales Order as open.
There is no delivery in the process, but "delivery status" is 'not delivered.' There is only copy control between Sales Order --> Invoice. Item category is not relevant for delivery. What can I check more?
I know that normally on Item Category I have to change the completion rule on B or C.
Normally You have to also change copy control, for the relevant Item category, Update document flow field has the X value, but there is no copy control for sales order, only for invoice.
Edited by: Malgorzata Paraficz on Feb 9, 2011 11:04 AM
Edited by: Malgorzata Paraficz on Feb 9, 2011 11:05 AM

There waa already created Invoice! 'Invoice quantities' field change (in copy control), also didn't help.
But I have noticed that Sales Order for 3-rd party have assigned scheduling line which is relevant for delivery. Is it correctly?
It must be something with 'delivery' because, the status is 'not delivered'. But in this process shouldn't be any delivery!
Edited by: Malgorzata Paraficz on Feb 15, 2011 11:59 AM
Edited by: Malgorzata Paraficz on Feb 15, 2011 12:01 PM

Bill to party in intercompany billing.

Hi Experts,
In inter company billing partners bill to is same as the sold to. Where as in master data it is same as payer.
I.e. If in master data Sold to and ship to are A
Payer and Bill to are B
But in IV billing the Sold to , ship to and bill to also become A.
Any ideas why its happening like this.
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Raj.....

Hi Raj,
Check the customer maintained for Inter company billing as shown
SPRO- Sales & Distribution-Billing-Inter Company Billing-Define Internal Customers by Sales Org
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I have small confusion regarding the thirdparty and intercompany sales.
Could you please tell me the difference between third party and intercompany sale.Inboth the cases the delivering plant is different and goods are deliveried to customer directly .for me the process seems to same .
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Intercompany-
Customer orders goods to company code/Sales organization A .A Sales org will accept and bill the order in the system. Company code/sales org B will deliver the goods to end customer and raise an intercompany billing on with reference to delivery. This can happen only after sales org 1 raises invoice to his end customer to whom the material has been delivered by sales organisation 2.
Third Party :
Here the customer orders the goods to the company . So the company orders the vendor to supply the goods to the customer and there by company raises the invoive to the customer and the vendo sends the invoice to the company code
Difference between Intercompany and Third party is Here(In third party) the goods will be supplied to the customer thru outside source where as in intercompany goods will be supplied from the Internal source. Here the intercompany billing is generated as soon as we do the pgi to the customer, but in third party we will bil the goods to the customer after vendor sends the invoice to the company.
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Hi Friends,
You have worked in Third Party Sales & Intercompany billing? how did you configurate? dont explain steps, i need your real time experience, what are the things you have configurate, how its work?
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Martin

Hi there,
You might find this link very usefull.....real screen configurations....[SCM Expert on-line|http://www.scmexpertonline.com/archive/Volume_04_(2006)/Issue_01_(January_and_February)/V4I1A1.cfm?session=]
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Difference between Intercompany sales,thirdparty sales

where th eexact difference comes in configuration in third party sales,intercompany sales .explain with examples
regards,
cpdatt

Hi,
Go through the explanation given below with test cases.
Business case: -
Customer orders goods to company code/Sales organization A (Eg.4211/4211).Sales org 4211 will accept and punch the order in the system with sold to party as end customer code in the system. Company code/sales org B (Eg.4436) will deliver the goods to end customer and raise an intercom any billing on 4211 with reference to delivery. This can happen only after 4211 raises invoice to his end customer to whom the material has been delivered by 4436.
SPRO Customization required:-
1. Assign plant of delivering company code (Eg.SI81) to sales org/distribution channel combination of ordering company code (Eg.4211/RT)
2. Maintain intercom any billing type as IV for sales document type OR
3. Assign Organizational Units By Plant (Eg.SI81/4211/RT/11)
4.Define Internal Customer Number By Sales Organization (Eg.4436 will create customer master for 4211 company code and that number will be maintained in this relationship:-4211/231)
5. Automatic posting to vendor account (Optional)
6. Maintain pricing procedure determination for 4211/RT/A/1/RVAA01-For customer sales and billing
Maintain pricing procedure determination for 4436/RT/A/1/ICAA01-For intercompony billing
Master data to be maintained:-
1. Create end customer master in company code/sales org 4211/RT/11
2. Create customer master for 4211 company code/sales org in 4436/RT/11
3. Maintain PR00 as price for end customer-Active in RVAA01
4. Maintain PI01 as price which has to be paid to 4436-Statistical in RVAA01
5. Maintain IV01 as inter-company Price-Active in ICAA01
Process:-
1. Create OR with sold to party as end customer.
2. Plant to be selected is delivering plant belonging to different company code. With this selection system will treat this order as intercomany sales.
3. Pricing procedure is RVAA01
4. With reference to this order delivery will be created from the delivering plant and post the goods issue for this delivery.
5. Ordering sales org will create billing document F2 with reference to delivery for end customer.
6. Delivering sales org will create intercompany billing IV with reference to delivery document.
I hope this helps you.Reward points if solution is useful.
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Dear gurus
I’d like to get advice about account determination for COGS account.
I have requirement to determine COGS account based on “Customer”.
If the customer is outside the group, we want to charge to
“Sales: Third-party” and “COGS: Third-party” accounts.
And if the customer is in the group, we want to charge to
“Sales: Intercompan” and “COGS: Intercompany” account.
However, since COGS account is determined from Valuation class in
Material master (OBYC), it cannot be determined from “Customer”.
(Because same material can be sold to third-party and intercompany too)
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Hi
The only other way I could think of is to do an enhancement at the time of delivery to read the customer and substitute the GL Account for COGS based on Customer recon Account.
The sales can easily be seggregated based on Customer Account Assignment Group in the customer Sales Area. Assuming the material account assignment group is 01 and customer account assignment group are as under:
External Customer 01
Group Customer 03
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Intercompany invoice not getting created in third party processing

Dear Gurus !
I am facing a problem in creating the intercompany invoice in case of third party order processing.
In our organisation , for any type of sale two billing documents are creared :
1) Commercial Invoice under the co. code for which sales org. is maintained at the sales order bookin level .
2) Intercompany Invoice under the co. code in which plant is maintained which is used at the sales order level as delivering plant.
So, as per the configuration req. for third party processing , i have created Sales order ( with automatic Purchase requistion generated ) , Purchase order creation with reference to the Purchase requisition , goods reciept ( MIGO ) and invoice reciept ( MIRO ) , then billing doc. or commercial invoice ( VF01 ) with the generation of accounting document and finally the intercompany invoice ( VF01 ) .
But i am facing the problem in final stage , that is , intercompany invoice creation .
Error Message : No open billing quantity has been determined .
I have checked the copy control for sales order to intercompany invoice and still not able to resolve it .
Please reply which setting needs to be done for this .
Awaiting your response , that what copy control settings is required .
Thanks .....

Hi Buddi / Mahesh / Kiran ,
It ' s good to see all of your opinion . But my problem has not been resolved .
I am implementing third party processing in my organisation , where the customer is an export customer ( outside India ) . Hence , this is a merchant export .
All the configurations / Customisations have been done for this process .
The process is running fine till commercial invoice , but the problem is in intercompany billing doc. creation.
I am again repeating - Error message : No open billing quantity has been determined.
Explanation of the process :
1) The order has been booked with item category TAS alongwith the item cat. group as BANS for the material used in the order .
2) The sales area is 1020 / 30 / 35 . Here , 1020 is sales org . under company code 0079 , 30 is export's distribution channel and 35 is the division for components .
3) The delivering plant used in the sales order is 1009 which is under co. code 0077. The price / condition record maintained for this material is in USD / EUR as it is a case of merchant export .
4) The purchase requisition is generated automatically when the order is saved . It can be seen at VA02 - > Item details - > Schedule Lines .
5) With the help of this PR no. , i have created a purchase order for vendor which is maintained under co. code 0077 asking for material in plant 1009 which we need to export / supply to the customer.
6) The value of material per piece in the P.O. is coming from the material master record -> Accounting 1 view - > Moving av. Price .
7) Now, the Purchase order is saved . With the help of this P.O. no. , goods reciept ( MIGO )is done .
8) After MIGO , Invoice reciept or MIRO is done under company code 0077.
9) After MIRO , customer ' s invoice is created through VF01 .
Remember : This is an order relevant billing , no delivery or PGI will happen here because the material is not coming into the plant 1009 .
10)The billing document ( order - related billing doc.) is created and the accounting document is also created under co. code 0079 in USD .
Till this stage , everything is running successfully as per business requirement , but i am facing the problem in the final stage , that is creation of intercompany invoice under co. code 0077 which is in INR .
In all other sales document types used in our industry , the process is same , that is : a) Sales order creation b) Delivery and PGI c) Billing doc. creation with accounting doc. under co. code 0079 and finally d) Intercompany invoice with accounting doc. under co. code 0077 and excise invoice creation with reference to intercompany invoice.
In the above, problem is not there becuase orde is delivery relevant , hence copy control is maintained for interco. billing to delivery type.
But in the new process , that is , third party processing , sales order relevant billing is done . so i suppose there will be a copy control for intercompany billing and sales doc. type , but i am not able to resolve it .
Hence , please understand the process before suggesting .
Thanks and awaits reply........

Order Related Intercompany Billing - Third Party Order

Dear all,
I have configured intercompany billing that is based on the delivery and i have done that successfully, then I tried the third party process but after billing the third party order then the intercompany billing doesn't show up in the vf04, I have searched the SAP Notes especially SAP Notes 63459 but I really haven't got the clue how to do that clearly, if somebody can help me how to configure the intercompany billing for my requirement. I'm using SAP 5.0. I believe something missing in the copying control between sales document and billing document and also for the output type.Please help me very urgent.

hi,
Customizing settings are reported in notes 338922, 109254 and 308989.
During delivery creation the LIKP fields VKOIV/VTWIV/SPAIV/FKAIV/PIOIV/FKDIV/KUNIV must be filled in program FV50XFLK_LIKP_FUELLEN_IV_UML. If you checkt this table and not all of these fields are filled, you have the wrong the customizing. If the error is in your pruduction there is a report with which you can correct the relevant deliveries (of course after correcting your customizing): see note 176476.
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While using ME59N, it throws Requisition could not be converted. One of our collegues told that if the subcontracting item has been automatically generated from SD Module, then ME59N will not convert the PR to PO.
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by
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Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
However please follow & check if these general settings are in place.
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