4 TB database and FRA

Hi
here the situation
- we have a 4TB OLTP database.
- RAC ASM 10g r2 AIX 5.3
- We want to go with RMAN - TSM for backup strategy
a DBA near me say, we need 5 TB for the FRA because RMAN Level-0 needs to be in the FRA + logs + .... !!! woooow ! it's money !
Is it true ?
My idea is: Use FRA only for Control Files, Archive logs, Flashback logs.
Whta is your opinion ?
Bests regards
Val.
Edited by: Valeria. on Jun 10, 2010 10:07 PM

Too many unknowns from your post. You should check Planning the Size of the Flash Recovery Area to help with some of your sizing requirements.
Your size requirements could be significantly less if you can't get the additional disk storage and decide to use TSM to to backup directly to tape.

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