5800 email client confuses me - or is it buggy?

Have just started using Nokia email client (latest update) for push Gmail email and find the settings confusing. Two problems;
1) 'When to sync' is set to 07.30-22.00. Despite this, it checks email every four hours during the night (waking me up).
2) I keep seeing the WLAN connected. I guess the email should be activating it every four hours to check for email, but then should it not switch it off? I tried manually disconnecting it several times but it would switch right back on.
Final question for anyone that really knows this email client. How is 'roaming' defined? Does it mean when you are out of your 'home network'? If so, how do you set a home network? And is home network only a WLAN??
Thanks in advance for any help.
Now running a 701, beautiful phone to handle and use...now that it has stopped sending my personal information to Nokia via 360Panel [rolls eyes]

Well, thanks very much Nokia for moving my post over into this forum - which no-one seems to read. The general N series forum is much better for answers.
Am giving up on the Nokia email client, it just does not seem to work reliably. For example,even though its definitely set to send/receive ever 4 hours it seems to keep the 3g connection or wireless on all the time and collect emails dynamically. Not ideal. Also, I wish the Help was more detailed. The stuff about roaming, home network etc I still can't understand.
So uninstalling it, going to try Emoze from the Ovi store instead.
Now running a 701, beautiful phone to handle and use...now that it has stopped sending my personal information to Nokia via 360Panel [rolls eyes]

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