About COPA Datasources
Hi Guys,
Can anybody please clear my doubts about like
what is "Field Name for Partition",
"Whar is the segment level"
"What is segment table"
"What is the Actual Item data"
"What is the Plan Item Data"
" Whow to set the delta for COPA Data Source
(setting up Time Stamp with limitation)
Thanks in advance
Peter
CO-PA collects all the OLTP data for calculating contribution margins ( Sales, cost of sales, overhead costs)
CO-PA also has power reporting tools and planning functions however co-pa reporting facility is limited to
Integrated cross-application reporting concept is not as differentiated as it is in BW.
OLTP system is optimized for transaction processing and high reporting work load has negative impact on the overall performance of the system.
In CO-PA we can configure structure of one or more operating concerns in each individual installation.
Actual Line Item table: CE1xxxx
Plan Line Items: CE2xxxx
Line Item Contain some information at document level that most cases is too detailed for analysis example CO-PA Document Number, Sales document Number, Posting date.
CO-PA Maintains summarization of data used by all CO-PA functions like reporting, planning, assessments, settlements and so on.
Segment Table: CE4xxxx
The Characteristics that describes the market are first separated from the rest of the line Items.
Each combination of characteristic vales is stored in profitability segment number. The Link between the profitability segment number and characteristic values is maintained in Segment Table.
Segment Level: CE3xxxx
The Value fields are summarized at profitability segment and period levels and stored together with these fields in Table CE3xxxx.
This table contains total values of the period for each Profitability segment number.
We can compare an operating Concern associated by segment table and segment level to an Info cube. Info cube comprises Dimension Table Segment Table) and the fact table ( Segment Level).
Unlike Fact table the segment level key contains other keys like Processing type in addition to the key field from the segment table.
Characteristics in Info Cube corresponds to characteristics( Or Attributes) in Info Cube.
Value fields can be regarded as a Key Figures.
Summarization level in Operating Concern have the same function as aggregates for an Info Cube, the difference is that aggregates for Info Cube are managed together with the Info Cube Itself while summarization levels are updated at regular intervals usually daily.
Line Items in CO-PA is comparable with Operational Data Store
Characteristics from the segment table are the characteristics that are maintained in transaction KEQ3.
By Default all characteristics are selected.
When we generate CO-PA Data Source select accounting based option.
Fields KOKRS, BUKRS, KSTAR are compulsory.
There are no Characteristics available for line Items because accounting based data sources do not contain characteristics.
There are no value fields or calculated key figures available
KOKRS and PERIO must be selected as selection fields.
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I cannot create generic delta based on VBPA as this does not contain timestamp field.
When writing the code and populate the data, Will this fetch Delta data for COPA datasource? for ex. if someone changes the partner function for sales order will that be captured as a delta? If not then please suggest what should be the approach for above.
Regards,
GirishHi,
Look up will work. it will be another way for you.
but delta on partner function will won't work thru LO data sources.
LO data sources are standard one and will work on their own delta function.
You need to understand more functionally about partner function.
this won't be the unique for one record. same function will may have multiple records.
in such cases we don't have any option to make partner function as delta relevant field thru custom data source.
Another work around:
Create one custom data source on table VBPA with less fields along with partner function.
load custom data source data to bw DSO(xyz).
create multiprovider on custom DSO(xyz) and copa cube.
At data source - you need to run daily full load only(info pack and dtp)
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I have an issue with the COPA datasource,
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Hi Experts ,
While configuring COPA Datasource for Transaction Data ,I am getting an error message stating "0ADMNSTRTN assigned to several fields of the Datasource * " So its not allowing me to proceed .How do I fix it ? Any help !
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Hi Experts,
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All About COPA extraction and business view
Hi All,
I have gone through lots of questions posted in this forum about the functionla side of COPA and also on extraction side. Is there any document( preferably a pdf) where I can find all the info in one document about COPA functional aspects .
Thanks in advance.
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SriniHi Srinivas,
Give us ur mail ID, i can send u one doc.
Re: COPA R/3 vs BW(aCCOUNT BASED-PA)
One of the differences between account based CO-PA and costing-based CO-PA that there is no delta extraction. There is also 1 other rule. You can only select 1 fiscal-period. The set-up is similar to costing based CO-PA.
The big difference between Account Based CO-AP and Costing Based CO-PA is of course the data is stored in the CO Modules.
Account based CO-PA is part of the CO concept. This means when you post to a cost element the data is posted to a CO-module (CCA, OPA, PA, PS etc). The way the data is stored is also different from costing based PA.
The CO tables like COEP, COBK (for the individual item are used and the COSS and COSP are used for the totals.
The object where the posting are related to they are stored in the CE4... table. So if you want to analyse the data there is 1 keyfigure and the cost-element is a characteristic (account model).
COsting Based CO-PA data is statistical data. This means that the update of CO-PA is not always equal to what is stored in the CO modules or in finance. The cost element is also not always updated and there are also more key-figures used to store info about the type of costs or revenues. Tables as CE1, CE2 , CE3 and CE4 are used.
Extraction for Account Based CO-PA is only based on the total records (full loads are only possible). For costing based CO-PA there it is possible work with init and delta packages and also to select data from the individual postings databases (CE1, CE2).
The way you generate the extractor is similar.
Hopelfully this gives you a bit more background of the CO-PA module.
Assign points if it helps..
Regards,
ARK -
Know the tables for FI and COPA datasources
Hi Experts,
For FI and COPA datasources, How do i get to know..What are the table for that data source. any table or tcode to know the tables.
Thanks.Hi,
Their is no standard tcode is available for tales based on the Datasource but we can get the tables based on the DS in help.sap.com like...below table origin in the link...
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bic704sp06/helpdata/en/a8/f4153c4eb5d82ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a7f2f294-0501-0010-11bb-80e0d67c3e4a?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true
FI Tables/Datasources on R3/ECC. What is the link?
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Satya -
How COPA datasource is loaded with data?
Hi all,
I'm very new to COPA extraction. I tried to extract data from COPA. So I created Costing based COPA datasource. Do we need to do anything to fill the data? Or Is there any initialization step as in LO? How the COPA tables are filled with data? From where these tables will get data? Please help me to understand the concept.
Thanks.Hi,
If you wander around in the link I previosuly sent you, you can find more info as in:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/7a/4c411a4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/7a/4c3a6c4a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
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Hi,
Can anyone let me know how do I change the description of the COPA Datasource. Do I have to generate the Datasource again even if I have to change the description.
Thanks,
JoshHi,
I don't think you can change this description by standard means... The COPA Datasource would have to be deleted and then recreated with your correct description.
I would personally go to the tables TKEBWLT and ROOSOURCET and change the description there...
hope this helps...
Olivier.
Edited by: Olivier Cora on Jan 3, 2008 6:31 PM -
How to get sales order information in COPA datasource
Hi All,
I wish to get sales order information like Customer, Sales office, Sales group etc in COPA datasource. Presently all this information is not available and the fields display blank value. Can you please guide me through the steps to achieve this.
Thanks in advance,
SanandaHi
They actually create Generic extraction for COPA modules..especially all finance modules. Hope you are aware of it and do you know the steps for COPA?
Any check all the below links as well lot many threads for COPA available. pls chek that as well
http://sap.seo-gym.com/copa.pdf
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/answer/Steps-for-a-generic-extraction-of-FI-CO-COPA-and-LO-in-SAP-BW
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COPA Datasource creation and Masterdata loading for characteristics
HI,
I am creating a Costing based COPA datasource for client requirement.
There are fileds from
Characteristics from the segment level:
Currency type PALEDGER
Fiscal Year GJAHR
Period/year PERIO
Plan/Act. Indicator PLIKZ
Record Type VRGAR
Version VERSI
*Characteristics from the segment table:
Company Code BUKRS
Billing Type FKART
Brand KMBRND
Brand EXTWG
Business Area GSBER
CO Area KOKRS
Category WW010
Country LAND1
Customer KNDNR
Customer group KDGRP
Distr. Channel VTWEG
Division SPART
Material Group MATKL
Not Used-Level4 WW040
Plant WERKS
Prod.hierarchy PRODH
Product ARTNR
Product hierarchy WW050
Profit Center PRCTR
Sales Group KMVKGR
Sales Office KMVKBU
Sales Ord. Item KDPOS
Sales Order KAUFN
Sales Org. VKORG
Sales district BZIRK
Sales employee KMVTNR
Sub Group WW020
Sub Sub Group WW030
Vol. rebate grp BONUS
Characteristics from the line items:
Record Currency REC_WAERS
Billing Date FADAT
Canceled doc. STO_BELNR
Canceled item STO_POSNR
Cost Element KSTAR
Cost Object KSTRG
Document number BELNR
Goods Issue WADAT
Item number POSNR
Order RKAUFNR
Partner PC PPRCTR
Posting date BUDAT
Ref.doc.number RBELN
Reference item RPOSN
Sender BProc PRZNR
Sender cost ctr SKOST
WBS Element PSPNR
Value fields:
Administration Costs KWGOHD
Bonuses KWBONI
Customer Discount KWKDRB
Direct mat. costs KWMAEK
FOB Charges VV020
Freight KWFRGR
Gross sales KWBRUM
Insurance KWINSR
Miscellaneous chargs VV030
Other Charges VV010
Other Discounts RABAT
Other overhead KWSGEK
PAL/Packing charges VV040
Revenue ERLOS
Sales costs KWSOHD
Sales quantity ABSMG
Stock Value VRPRS
Calculated Key Figures from the Key Figure Scheme:
Sales unit COPASLQTU
Sales quantity COPASLQTY
Revenue COPAREVEN
Cust. discnt COPACDSCN
Base on the above characteristic fields how can i consider the infoobjects from BW to laod masterdata.
Do i need to consider the base tables for characteristics and for value fileds apart from CE1XXX,CE2XX,CE3XXX,CE4XXX tables.
Please give me your ideas on this.
Thanks,
SatyaHi Durgesh,
Thanks for your response,
Data is coming perfectly in RSA3 for COPA datasource.
There is a confusion while reconciling the data with ECC system.(transaction KE24).
Functional consultant has reconcile one transaction with a reference document number and with certain currency type(Company code currency/Operating concern currency).
But still i confuse with the Masterdata Loading.
Because masterdata attribute fileds are taking directly from the operating concern in COPA which is normally won't happen with the other scenario.
(Say for CUSTOMER attribute are CUSTOMER GROUP and COUNTRY, In COPA scenario these are directly available in operating concern which will be available for datasource.But for other scenarios for CUSTOMER GROUP and COUNTRY fill with the CUSTOMER attributes hence my idea is whether we need to load masterdata in BI or not.)
Please give your valuable o/p.
Thanks,
Satya
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