Abstract Interface and BPM

If I have a Transformation step in my BPM, whether it is necessary to have the Source and Target Message Interface to be ABSTRACT?
Thanks

Mohini,
Absolutley. BPM can interact and deal with only Abstract Interfaces. And so, if you have a transformation step inside the BPM , the source and target interface will have to be abstract interfaces.
The interface mapping will be between Abs Interfaces in the IR.
Regards,
Bhavesh

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An abstract class can have instance methods that implement a default behavior. An Interface can only declare constants and instance methods, but cannot implement default behavior and all methods are implicitly abstract. An interface has all public members and no implementation. An abstract class is a class which may have the usual flavors of class members (private, protected, etc.), but has some abstract methods.
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