ACR Camera Profiles - missing?

I'm new to ACR and would like to open a .nef file using a Nikon D3 camera profile.  I'm running the last version of cs5 and ACR 6.2 (updated today).  When I open the file in ACR, I see the Camera Calibration tab, and the Camera Profile pop up menu.  I see profiles that look generic, like Camera D2X Model 1, Camera Vivid, etc.  I looked in Adobe Application Support (Mac OS 10.6) and see a long list of camera profiles, including the D3..what am I doing wrong?  I'm missing something for sure.

Since Lightroom will not read in-camera settings for raw images, those profiles have been designed and named to emulate those settings as closely as possible.  I'm not enough of a Nikon historian to understand why they include profiles for the D2X, but they are there for every Nikon camera that I am aware of.  Apparently there was something about the output of that camera that a lot of people look for.
When I first started using Lightroom and the profiles I was quite satisfied with the Camera Standard profile, which simulates standard output from the camera in JPEG mode.  But it was a little too saturated and the shadows were a little harsh for my liking.  I eventually changed to the Camera Neutral profile and made a couple of adjustments to saturation and vibrance.  It comes a lot closer to what I want.  I have found that the D2X mode 3 will sometimes soften the shadows and give me a better result.  But basically, you just need to experiment with the different profiles to see what they do.  Eventually you will come to know when to turn to them.  It's a pretty simple concept.

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    Message was edited by: Hudechrome

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