ACR3 RAw processing vs. LIghtroom.

Does anyone know if the raw processing engine to be released with LIghtroom is the same as ACR's current engine? I sure hope not because all versions of ACR have had issues with rendering the Red's with a slight orange tonality to them. The results I get from Capture One are significantly better, I just hate having to use multiple software programs to get the best results. If not, is there a profile or a workaround for getting correct tonality out of Canon's Eos 1dmk2 and 1dsmk2's? I can never render correct Reds and I've tried it all.
Any help would be great.
Matt

Many people in many forums with many camera models believe that ACR gets the red hue and red saturation wrong.
Using one of the available calibration scripts, based on photographs of a GretagMacbeth ColorChecker, tends to make people happier. Once I did this, I like ACR's colours, and don't normally need to change them in Photoshop.
For example, here is a thread about the topic:
http://adobe.groupbrowser.com/t165599.html
And others:
http://adobe.groupbrowser.com/t146550.html
http://adobe.groupbrowser.com/t146539.html
A common adjustment in the "Calibration" tab is: red hue: about -20 or -25; red saturation: from +0 (rare) to +40, often about +25. These can be saved as defaults so that you never need to think about them again. (Blue and green may also need changes, but it is red that is so consistently wrong).

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Salve a tutti. Sono italiano e non trovando un forum in italiano ho postato qui la domanda. Il mio problema è questo: ho una versione completa di Lightroom 4 e purtroppo quando carico i file RAW in formato RAF i colori sono sbiaditi e il programma mi "curva" la foto. Ora volevo scaricare Camera Raw perchè credevo che potesse risolvermi il problema. Però una volta scaricato e avviata l'installazione mi esce questo messaggio: Aggiornamento non riuscito. Questa patch non è applicabile ... . Potete aiutarmi per favore?

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Hi, I am using a Sony A-100 and just start using Lightroom to process my raw file. I quite like lightroom's interface and its workflow, however, a a problem disturbing me is the image look quite different in sony's raw processing software and in lightroom (just import without any editing). In sony's software, the WB and exposure is correct and I don't need to adjust so much. But in lightroom, the color always looks warm and image is underexposure.
Is it a common problem or it is just a special case as to sony's dslr camera.

The main reason is that each different software is interpreting image and color data in its own way due, I guess, to different processing methods.
In that way, digital is not different than film : no film render colors and contrast the same way.
You have to choose what fits the best for you.
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Gilles.

Cannot Use Camera Raw out of LightRoom 4

Below is a lengthy dialogue that I just had with Tech Support via Chat regarding accessing Camera Raw directly out of LightRoom 4. The end result is that it can't be done. LightRoom 4 has it's own "Develop" section and if you try to "Edit in: PhotoShop 6" the RAW image will bypass Camera Raw and open directly into PhotoShop. Something that I was surprised at and frustrated by. I thought for sure I was missing somehting.
I do not recommend buying LightRoom other than a means of "organizing" our images. I simply use Bridgne and am able to open a Canon "CR2" Raw file directly into Camera Raw and then after making my adjustments directly into PhotoShop. LightRoom lacks Layers, Paths and Channels and a host of other wonderful adjustment / manipulation capabilites not found in LightRoom.
So, if you are like me and want to use Camera Raw prior to going to PhotoShop then LightRoom will not get you there. I spent a tremendous amount of time researching it thinking I must be missing something and then I contacted Support via Chat and we went through changing %AppData%, which only resulted in me losing all my PhotoShop Preferences! A total waste of the Technician's time and mine.
I share the below chat with you only to show you the ludicrous amount of time wasted when the answer remains the same: YOU CANNOT ACCESS CAMERA RAW DIRECTLY OUT OF LIGHTROOM 4
Thank you for choosing Adobe. A representative will be with you shortly. Your estimated wait time is 0 minute(s) and 3 second(s) or longer as there are 1 customer(s) in line ahead of you.
You are now chatting with 'Soumyadeep'
Soumyadeep: Hello. Welcome to Adobe Technical Support.
Soumyadeep: Hi Fred!
Fred: Hi there my friend. I am trying to use Lightroom 4, but frankly am not happy with the way it handles RAW files.
Fred: I cannot open a Canon ".cr2" RAW file directly into Camera Raw from LightRoom.
Soumyadeep: I have received your query. Please allow me a moment to verify your account and to review the details of your request.
Fred: Thanks. I have also gone through all of the information I can find in the "Help Menu" looking up everything. Can't find a thing on LightRoom 4. I did not have this problem with Lightroom 3.
Fred: The RAW file that it references is "DNG".
Soumyadeep: I understand that you are unable to preview cr2 raw images in Lightroom 4, am I correct?
Fred: No, I can preview it, but when i want to open it the only choice I am given is CS6. I cannot open it into Camera Raw and it actually choses a completely different and inappropriate plug in from NIK Software.
Soumyadeep: Thank you for confirming.
Fred: I know I can change that in the "Prefernces" in Lightroom 4 but I can't find Camera Raw to select as the choice.
Soumyadeep: I will be glad to assist you with this.
Soumyadeep: May I have the serial number of the product please?
Fred: I just checked again and it is set to a NIK Software plugin as an external software to open the file.
Fred: Yes, let me get it for you.
Fred: Lightroom version: 4.1 [829322] Operating system: Windows 7 Business Edition Version: 6.1 [7601] Application architecture: x64 System architecture: x64 Physical processor count: 2 Processor speed: 2.1 GHz Built-in memory: 8123.8 MB Real memory available to Lightroom: 8123.8 MB Real memory used by Lightroom: 1687.3 MB (20.7%) Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1657.0 MB Memory cache size: 1194.5 MB System DPI setting: 96 DPI Desktop composition enabled: Yes Displays: 1) 1360x768 Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1 Library Path: C:\Users\FT\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom 4 Catalog.lrcat Settings Folder: C:\Users\FT\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom Adapter #1: Vendor : 8086 Device : 2a42 Subsystem : 145110cf Revision : 7 Video Memory : 32 AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024 AudioDeviceName: Speakers (2- USB Audio) AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2 AudioDeviceSampleRate: 44100 Build: 6.0x552 Direct2DEnabled: false GL_ALPHA_BITS: 8 GL_BLUE_BITS: 8 GL_GREEN_BITS: 8 GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 128 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 4096 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8 GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 4096,4096 GL_RED_BITS: 8 GL_RENDERER: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 1.20 - Intel Build 8.15.10.1883 GL_VENDOR: Intel GL_VERSION: 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.1883 OGLEnabled: true OGLPresent: true GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_NV_blend_square GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_texture_float GL_NV_conditional_render GL_EXT_texture_swizzle
Fred: Just a second. No serial number is given in System Information.
Soumyadeep: I am sorry to inform you that the serial number will not be available in your system.
Soumyadeep: Fred, I have locate the serial number in your Adobe account.
Fred: Lightroom version: 4.1 [829322] Operating system: Windows 7 Business Edition Version: 6.1 [7601] Application architecture: x64 System architecture: x64 Physical processor count: 2 Processor speed: 2.1 GHz Built-in memory: 8123.8 MB Real memory available to Lightroom: 8123.8 MB Real memory used by Lightroom: 1687.3 MB (20.7%) Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1657.0 MB Memory cache size: 1194.5 MB System DPI setting: 96 DPI Desktop composition enabled: Yes Displays: 1) 1360x768 Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.1 Library Path: C:\Users\FT\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom 4 Catalog.lrcat Settings Folder: C:\Users\FT\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom Adapter #1: Vendor : 8086 Device : 2a42 Subsystem : 145110cf Revision : 7 Video Memory : 32 AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024 AudioDeviceName: Speakers (2- USB Audio) AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2 AudioDeviceSampleRate: 44100 Build: 6.0x552 Direct2DEnabled: false GL_ALPHA_BITS: 8 GL_BLUE_BITS: 8 GL_GREEN_BITS: 8 GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 128 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 4096 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8 GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 4096,4096 GL_RED_BITS: 8 GL_RENDERER: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 1.20 - Intel Build 8.15.10.1883 GL_VENDOR: Intel GL_VERSION: 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.1883 OGLEnabled: true OGLPresent: true GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_NV_blend_square GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_texture_float GL_NV_conditional_render GL_EXT_texture_swizzle
Fred: OK, how can I easily get the bloody serial number for you?
Soumyadeep: Fred, I have locate the serial number in your Adobe account.
Soumyadeep: Once you login to the Adobe account, click on "My products" under the "My products and services".
Soumyadeep: There you can locate the serial number which you have registered.
Fred: OK, so you don't need it now. It isn't in a format that I can copy and paste.
Fred: 116040070815784336099081
Soumyadeep: Since it was registered in your Adobe account we can get the information from there.
Soumyadeep: Thank you for the serial number.
Soumyadeep: Fred, I would like to inform you that all the raw edit options you will get in Lightroom develop module.
Fred: I hope I copied it correctly it is presented so small.
Fred: OK, just a second.
Fred: So, I go to "Develop" it will open in Camera Raw 7.01?
Fred: Frankly, this is the reason that I have just been using Bridge is because of the seemingly lack of coherent connection between LightRoom 4 and PhotoShop CS6.
Soumyadeep: I would like to inform you that you will not have any separate camera raw plugins for Lightroom. Since Lightroom will not require a camera raw converter.
Fred: At least I can open into Camera Raw and make the necessary adjustments and it will load in to PhotoShop.
Fred: OK, then why when opening a "RAW" image out of LightRoom does it go directly to CS6 bypassing Camera Raw?
Fred: Not allowing all of the wonderful adjustment toos, particularly the new ones in Camera Raw. I just don't understand the disconnect.
Soumyadeep: Fred, may I know which product you are referring as "CS6"?
Fred: If I had wanted to process all my images in LightRoom I would not have wasted my money on CS6. Does that make sense?
Fred: PhotoShop CS6
Fred: Or PhotoShop 6 Extended
Soumyadeep: Thank you for the information.
Fred: The question still remains "Why does LightRoom 4 only recongize DNG files and not other RAW file formats and not allow them to be opened into Camera Raw?"
Fred: I don't want to process my images in LightRoom 4. I want to catalog and sort them. I want to process the RAW files from Canon in Camera Raw and then move on to PhotoShop 6 Extended.
Fred: So, what you are telling me is that I can't open a RAW file in LightRoom into Camera Raw. Simply stated.
Soumyadeep: Fred, I can understand your concern. Lightroom will not require a camera raw converter.
Soumyadeep: May I have the name of the camera model you are referring?
Fred: Two camera models: EOS 5D Mark II and EOS 60D
Soumyadeep: Please so that I can check further and try to troubleshoot your issue.
Soumyadeep: .Thank you for the information.
Fred: Both are listed as supported by Adobe PhotoShop and Camera Raw. I found that in my research.
Soumyadeep: Okay.
Soumyadeep: Please close all the Adobe applications.
Fred: I simply want to go from LightRoom 4 directly to Camera Raw 7.01 and then onto PhotoShop 6 Extended. Seems pretty straight forward and logical to me. Then again I'm not Adobe.
Fred: OK, just a moment and I'll do that.
Soumyadeep: Click on Start.
Soumyadeep: Fred, may I know what operating system you are using?
Fred: I am working on Windows 7 64 bit operating system.
Fred: I have closed all applications from Adobe.
Soumyadeep: Thank you for the information.
Soumyadeep: Click on Start.
Soumyadeep: Just type %Appdata% in the search box and hit the enter key.
Fred: Ok, Im pretty computer savy so just tell me where you want to go.
Soumyadeep: Double click on Adobe folder.
Fred: Done
Soumyadeep: In that folder you will have a folder CameraRaw. Please rename the folder as CameraRawold.
Fred: Done
Soumyadeep: In that folder you will have a folder Adobe Photoshop CS6. Please rename the folder as Adobe Photoshop CS6old
Soumyadeep: After renaming the images please close the page and try to open a raw file and let me know the exact result.
Fred: Done
Fred: Just a moment. I have renamed CameraRawold and Adobe6Old. i am going to navigate to my external drive and click on a RAW File
Soumyadeep: Okay.
Soumyadeep: Let me know the status.
Fred: It is opening PhotoShop 6 Extended.
Fred: I can change the properties of the file to open in another program if that is where we are going.
Fred: It also created an error that stated that it recognized graphic software that is not completely supported and PhotoShop is not opening normally.
Fred: Given a little more time it opened in Camera Raw.
Soumyadeep: Fred, once more step you need to perform as you got an error regarding graphic software.
Soumyadeep: Please try to work on the Camera Raw and let me know it is working fine or not.
Fred: And I lost my presets.
Fred: OK, where does this leave us?
Fred: With regards to LightRoom 4?
Soumyadeep: Fred, you wanted to open the raw images in Camera raw option instead of Photoshop CS6, right?
Fred: Camera Raw appears to be functiong fine.
Soumyadeep: Great!
Soumyadeep: Please close all the Adobe application.
Soumyadeep: Re launch Photoshop and type CNTRL+ K.
Soumyadeep: Let me know once you are done.
Fred: Checking the "CR2" files out of Canon the dafault to open is with PhotoShop 6
Fred: Ok, let me close all of them.
Fred: OK, closed sir.
Soumyadeep: Please navigate to Performance tab.
Fred: "Performance Tab" in what program?
Soumyadeep: Re launch Photoshop and type CNTRL+ K
Soumyadeep: A new window will pop up "Preference"
Fred: Just a second it is opening. Thanks for help.
Fred: I am now at the Prefernces box. Performance Tab
Soumyadeep: You are welcome.
Soumyadeep: Correct.
Fred: OK, I'm in Preferences
Soumyadeep: Please let me know Use Graphics Processor is checked or unchecked.
Fred: It is checked. I do know that on this machine that the graphics processor is not fully supported due to a lack of a separte video card.
Soumyadeep: Okay. Please do check once that the graphic drives are updated or not.
Soumyadeep: Fred, I hope now your are able to open the raw images in camera raw as you were referring?
Fred: Just a second. Driver software is up to date.
Fred: Let me open LightRoom 4 and see where it goes. Just a second.
Soumyadeep: Sure.
Fred: Lightroom is taking a long time to open now.
Fred: Now I'm getting the message that it is not responding.
Fred: OK, it finally opened. Just a second.
Soumyadeep: Okay.
Soumyadeep: Please let me know the result.
Fred: In light room when I select "Edit In PhotoShop 6" it is going directly to Photoshop 6 and not opening Camera Raw. Still.
Fred: So, my friend. We are still back to the original question and now I have to reload all of my preferences lost due to the change in AppData. LOL!
Fred: I guess I can organize all I ant in LightRoom and still use Bridge to edit and work on my images.
Fred: Sorry! Organize all I want and still edit out of Bridge.
Soumyadeep: Fred, I am sorry to inform you that when you will open the images from Lightroom it will not require the camera raw and also when you will try to open the images in other software from Lightroom it will directly open in that software. Since Lightroom itself works as a Came

Jim, thank you for an excellent responce. I truthfully had researched the "Help" section on LightRoom and PhotoShop and found nothing that even remotely resembled your straight forward and easy to follow directions. After upgrading to CS6 and LightRoom 4 I am delighted with all of the new features that Adobe created in PhotoShop. I'm not sure that LightRoom 4 was as great an advancement as PhotoShop itself.
I am certainly going to give your solution a try and see how it works out for me. I concur that I probably do not fully understand and appreciate the relationship between the two programs. Today was my attempt of gaining a better insight to that relationship. Thank you for your response!

Creative cloud quit, says "download again" and still no joy, same message. Camera raw gone, Existing Lightroom and PS-12 won't talk. What's up? Looks like Creative Cloud trial botched up something. iMac

Creative cloud quit, says "download again" and still no joy, same message. Camera raw gone, Existing Lightroom 4.3 and PS-12 won't talk. What's up? Looks like Creative Cloud trial botched up something. iMac
Tried a number of "fixes" from blogs. No joy. Deleted all my adobe apps, rebooted, and Creative Cloud says it needs to reload. Went through that process, and it quit near the end, saying it needed to reload and directed me back to same Adobe site. Hmm. Round and round we go. How do I get off of this loop and get my Adobe Lightroom and PS working fine again? Whole episode started after loading CC and then PS said it didn't have Camera Raw. Went and downloaded that, wouldn't load and said I needed Adobe Download Diagnostic (or something like that) went to suggested link, whereupon it tells me it is no loger available.
Looking forward to cleaning everything off and starting over!! Any input gratefully accepted and I will NOT be trying CC again. I am sure it is just fine, just not for me, now.
David Balcaen

I forgot to write down my computer specs:
iMac 27 Mid 2011
2.7 GHz Intel Core i5
4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB
OS X 10.9.2

How do I update a folder of DNGs to the new 2010 (Current) Raw Process?

Is there an efficient method to update an entire folder of DNG images to the newer RAW process in Camera Raw 6.1 - to "2010 (Current)"?
And as an added bonus, it would also be great to simultaneously update the Camera Profile - to "Adobe Standard".
I have lots of folders of DNGs that were processed in ACR 5.7 or Lightroom 2.7, and so they were processed in the older, 2003, process version.
I see that when I update a single DNG in Lightroom 3's Develop Module that I am asked if I want to update all of the photos shown in the Filmstrip at the bottom of the window. This is very convenient!
My father does not yet have Lightroom 3, but does have Photoshop CS5 and ACR 6.1 installed and he wants an efficient method to do the same using those tools. We found that if we open the folder in Bridge, select all the DNG images, open the multiple images in Camera Raw, click on the "Select All" button in the upper left corner of the window, that we can then go to the Camera Calibration panel and make these two changes to all of the images simultaneously.
It seems like there should be some method of doing this from within Bridge. When we go to Edit -> Develop Settings -> Copy Camera Raw Settings and then select all of the other DNGs in the folder and go to Edit -> Develop Settings -> Paste Camera Raw Settings.... and choose only the Camera Calibration checkbox, that only one of the two settings actually gets changed; the Camera Profile setting does - the Process version does not.

austinmirage wrote:
Is there an efficient method to update an entire folder of DNG images to the newer RAW process in Camera Raw 6.1 - to "2010 (Current)"?
And as an added bonus, it would also be great to simultaneously update the Camera Profile - to "Adobe Standard".
You CAN easily make a Camera Raw preset or use Copy/Paste develop settings to change a folder's worth of files to "Adobe Standard"...that's simple. However, currently the Process version is not captured in a preset not copy/paste settings...the only current method is to actually open images inside of Camera Raw, select all and change the Process version to what you want...note, even Sync won't sync the Process version...only select all and then change the setting.
It's hoped in the future this will be somehow addressed...it will require that the subsetting for Process version be a separate item in the Camera Calibration settings.

Can't open a raw file from Lightroom to Photoshops ACR

I got used to using Lightroom 3 as a place to catalogue and store my images but still process my Raw files in Adobe Photoshops Raw Convertor. Now that I have Lightroom 5 I can't find out how to do this. With version 3 I just highlighted say 3 files and hit command E.
I know I can open an image as a smart object and go about it that way but I can't open multiple images from Lightroom to ACR.
I know people will say '' hey well do your Raw work in Lightroom'' but I got used to using the Photoshop Raw convertor and I spent a lot of time and money learning it.
Surely there is a way to open say three images from L5 to ACR ???
Please help this has been driving me nuts, It's suggested I will need to start using Bridge but I'm bewildered and don't want to start learning something new.
Thanks in advance.

It has been a long time since I even had Lightroom 3 installed on my computer. I don't recall the behavior you are describing. ACR is used to translate the adjustments made in Lightroom as the image is transferred to Photoshop. You may have become accustomed to a certain behavior, but it doesn't work that way. The process of moving from Lightroom to Photoshop works on the assumption that you have done your raw adjustments using Lightroom, and you are now passing that image to Photoshop.

ACR vs Aperture for Raw Processing

I have been using Lightroom for over a year (including beta versions on my old PC), but have grown tired of it's lack of worthwhile output options. I have a trial version of Aperture and think that it is a far superior product on the management and output side of things, but I am having problems getting my raw files to look good to me.
I could process all the files in Bridge first, then create tiffs or PSDs to import into Aperture, but that would negate have the purpose of Aperture. I need help with an Aperture workflow and probably with raw processing controls in Aperture.
Specs: 17" MBP with 10.5.1, Aperture 1.5.6
Camera: Pentax K10D ver 1.3
I typically convert my PEF files to DNG due to better compression in DNG, but have tried using the original PEF with identical results. Any help is appreciated.

I too came back to Aperture after a year of Lightroom's "workflow". It really is possible to match or surpass LR's output. There's a good guide to the adjustment tools here:
http://www.insideaperture.com/Site/AdjustmentToolGuide.html
Also lots of tips about workflow, etc. here:
http://www.bagelturf.com/
You probably won't want to spend too much money if you're just using the trial, but Ben Long's book
Aperture Pro training Series: Aperture 1.5 is very good.

Fuji x10 with EXR sensor - Is there RAW support in Lightroom 5

Hello,
I am about to purchase the Fuji x10 because now you can get them at a very reasonable price. I prefer shooting in RAW and I found out that there is a problem with the new Fuji EXR sensor. When I do an online research about this fine camera I read a lot about problems that RAW converters have with this special Fuji EXR sensor and the poor results you get when developing the Fuji RAW files. I can read in the Adobe list that Lightroom supports the Fuji x10 but does this mean that Adobe solved the problems with the EXR sensor in Lightroom 5?
Is there anybody who developes Fuji x10 RAW files with the latest Lightroom 5 version and can tell me what results she or he gets?
Shooting JPGs only wouldn't be a solution for me, so I really hope Adobe found a way to deal with this EXR sensor.
Thanks for every help and good advice.
Conroy

Those are new profiles created by Adobe to emulate the conversion that is done by the Fujifilm Camera firmware that processes the raw data in the camera. They are profiles for processing the RAW data. Adobe also provides a standard Profile specific to the x10 for the processing of the raw data, it is labeled "Adobe Standard".
The only way you will be know if you will be happy with the processing of Fujifilm RAW files by Lightroom is by doing what ssprengel advises, get some raw files from the x10 and test for yourself.
Looking at the camera "Review" of the x10 done in 2012 almost 2 years ago by DPReview I would say the ACR/LR processing or raw files from the x10 got a sub-standard review. Since that time ACR/LR have created new profiles and the only way to satisfy your self is to do some testing. The profile referred to above have been produced after the 2012 review so should provide improved results.
If you need some more info from Fujifilm users you can think about posting in the forum for Fujifilm Camera in the DPReview forum see the link below.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/1020?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_med ium=text&ref=mainmenu

RAW images in Lightroom 3

When I import my RAW images into Lightroom 3 (for Mac), they look great until I click on an image to view it. Then, automatically Lightroom changes the coloring and quality of my image. It makes it look terrible! I didn't even click on any presets or sliders. I want my images to look the way they do when I first import them. Is there a setting that I need to turn off or change?

Digital cameras capture images in a raw format.and depending on the camera model you have you have the option to allow the camera to process the raw data and provide a jpeg / Tiff image file you can view on your computer. You may also have the option for your camera to retain the raw data and have this processed by software provided by your camera manufacturer.
You also have the option to use third party raw processing software to process the raw data, Lightroom / Adobe ACR, are one of these providers. Third party raw processing software use their own proprietory processes and profiles to carry out this process. They are all different to your camera manfacturer processes which are proprietory so what your are seeing is expected, you are being provided with an alternative to what your camera manufacturer provides.
Have a look at the following article from an independent source.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/u-raw-files.shtml
Lightroom provides you with lots of tools to be creative in generating an alternative rendition of the raw data or also creating your own preset to match the rendition created by your camera.

Why when I open my raw files into lightroom, colors are different from my camera's preview?

Ciao,
I have a problem... maybe this can be a stupid question but anyway.. I would like to know the reason why when I open a raw image in lightroom, for a second I see the right colors/tone/contrast that i see when i look at the same images on my camera and soon after the word "Loading" I see the raw files with different colors.
Why this happens???
Before "Loading" and --> after
Thank you so much

Hey Giuseppe
I have a similar problem but the cause may be different from yours. I shoot a Canon 6D and as far as I know no one with the 5D MKIII has my issue, but maybe you could look into it.
Canon's Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop CC, as well as Lightroom CC, is automatically down converting my CR2 RAW files from 14 bit color depth to 8 bit color depth. This is screwing up my colors, contrast, gradients, etc quite a bit when trying to process RAW files in Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC.
You can read my thread here:
Banding due to automatic downconverting of RAW files to 8 bit
You might want to check and see if your RAW files are actually being processed in 16 bit color depth. There is a possibility that they are being down converted automatically for some reason.
The bit depth in Lightroom for RAW files is supposed to be 16 bit but when opening my files it just converts it down.
Try downloading Canon's Digital Photo Professional 4
Canon U.S.A. : Consumer & Home Office : EOS 5D Mark III
Use that software to process a RAW photo and convert to a 16 bit TIFF. I know this software truly gives you a 16 bit depth image. Then compare the result side to side with what you're seeing in Lightroom.
If you are having this issue, I have not yet found a way to process RAW CR2 files in ACR or Lightroom and maintain 16 bit depth.
If you are batch processing to JPEGs it probably doesn't matter, but my issue is that it is down converting BEFORE exporting and thus any edits I do become much more destructive on my 8 bit image than they would if I was editing a 16 bit image. I have to be able to keep things in 16 bit up until the point they go to the printer.
Sorry, this may not help you at all, it looks like there could just be a difference in White Balance, but I figured I'd throw my two cents out there and maybe you could see if this is actually what is happening for you, and hopefully eventually Adobe could potentially fix this bug.

Hi! i took black and white pictures in RAW, but in Lightroom i see these only in color. what to do? thank you

hi! i took black and white pictures in RAW, but in Lightroom i see these only in color. what to do? thank you

You may want to read this I imported a mix of color and black and white raw files but lightroom changed all the black and white file to color?
The Black and white you see is just the cameras representation of the "raw" pixel information straight from the sensor. The RAW file format has yet to undergo demosaicing, and so it contains just one red, green, or blue value at each pixel location.
Lightroom, or any other RAW processor, doesn't recognize the in-camera processing because it is unique to the camera.

RAW Processing problems with Canon 5D Mark iii

I am having problems with the RAW files coming from my new 5D Mark iii in Aperture. I have the latest version of Aperture (and update) installed. Selecting a picture style on the 5D doesn't seem to yield any results because when I import the photo into aperture all the images go very dark. I have to pull the exposure levels up all the way to get a decent exposure. The histogram on my camera looks perfect but when imported into Aperutre the histogram changes. I have my custom picture style set to give me a very flat image (contrast off, sharpening off, saturation -2, color tone 0). The images looks very flat and perfect in my LCD but once imported into aperture the RAW processing makes it very dark. I even tried shooting the exact photo in three completely different picture styles but they all look identical once they are in aperture. What's going on??

Here is a side by side comparison of a RAW image in the latest versions of Aperture and Lightroom. I have never had these issues with the 5D Mark II only the Mark III. As you can see Lightroom produces a nice flat image while Aperture is under-exposing the image. Any thoughts? I really want to continue to use Aperture but with my recent camera upgrade to the Mark III I don't see how this is possible. Anyones help would be much appreciated.

How to edit raw files in lightroom?

when editing raw files in lightroom the only extra option I seem to get is more control over white balance. Am I missing something? is there a way to open raw files in camera raw (like in photoshop elements) or can the editing options I get for all photos raw(nef) and jpg work better on raw than on jpg? I am a little confused by it...

Lr uses Camera Raw internally for processing raw files.
You create renditions by editing raw images in develop mode until you are satisfied, and then exporting those renditions.
If you mean you want access to proprietary NEF settings placed in the raw image by the camera or Nikon software... this is not possible. You can mimic some of the settings with camera profiles and presets, but Lr (like most software) does not have (complete, unfettered, unencumbered) access to proprietary image details. Adobe uses the public Nikon SDK to get access to the encrypted WB information.

ACR3 RAw processing vs. LIghtroom.

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