Active dataguard physical standby

Hi,
Is it possible to create additional tables and do DML operations on them ( these tables will not be present on primary db) in physical standby database created by active data guard.
Regards,
prasad.

Is it possible to create additional tables and do DML operations on them ( these tables will not be present on primary db) in physical standby database created by active data guard.Prasad,
Here Active datagaurd feature is only for READ ONLY or reporting purpose, where you can perform only Select queries which is from 11gRx at the same time recovery also will be active.
If you want to open database in Read & Write , There there would be no consistent with Primary database, These behaves as different databases.
So Either you have to use flashback option after completing your REad & Write options,
Again you will lost all of the data, whatever you performed DML operations. So this is no use again.
You can use this note for that procedure *How To Open Physical Standby For Read Write Testing and Flashback [ID 805438.1]*
But i can say conclusion to make your standby high available your DML operations are not supported, ofcourse supported but its not High availability.
Hope this clears.
You seems to be new user to OTN , consider closing the thread as answered, Keep the forum clean. https://forums.oracle.com/forums/ann.jspa?annID=718
Edited by: CKPT on Mar 19, 2012 11:38 AM

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