Actual excise pass on (TRADING)

Hi all
There is issue in actual excise passon in trading case. Please suggest something..
During purchase
For 15 qty
BED is 6753
Edu Cess@2% is 135.06
HCESS @1% is 67.53
I have entered purchase by creating some formula..
Now during Sale client wants
for 15 qty
Unit Price=6000
Packing@2% 2186.56
BED is 6753
Edu Cess@2% is 135.06
HCESS @1% is 67.53
[email protected]% 13941.16
Add Tax@1% 1115.29
Im not able to create formula as the client wants that excise duty should be exactly same as during purchase. but i cant show as i have to show packing @2% in my sale tax code thats why i can't use the same tax code i had use during purchase because there was no packing...And so im not able to match the document value..
What to do? Can you suggest tax code?
Waiting for reply..

Hi Saurabh.....
The Trading excise is like as it is.
You no need to change the tax code. How you explained it happens the same in SAP
But you need to use the assessable field also.
In your first post whatever you gave the example you take that example but only you put purchase price into the assasable field while sale. It will deduct that much excise amt as you system deducted while purchase. Try this one......
Regards,
Rahul

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