Actual price calculation configuration
Dear experts,
What are the configuration settings required for actual price calculation in product costing?
Regards
Jay
Hi,
please find below the list of activities that need to be done to calculate the actual price calculation:
Config requirements:
1. You have defined the splitting structures
2. You have assigned Splitting structure to Cost Centers
End user side:
1. KSS2 - Execute Actual cost splitting
2. KSII - Calculate Actual activity price
Please let me know if you need futher details in this regard
Surya
Similar Messages
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Authorization control for actual price calculation
Dear all,
I found that there is no authorization control for actual price calculation(KSII), this means user can calculate actual price for all cost centers, even this cost center belongs to other company. Is there a way to control this?
Thanks,
BenHi Ben,
By SAP standard we do not have the control. we also have the same situation. We are venturing in to Realisation phase and we decided to have some kind of program (development) to control this.
Please let me know if you find some better solution
Best Regards
Surya -
Hi Experts,
We have this scenario:
1. Activity prices are entered manually in KP26.(Activity type indicator=5)
2. At the time of CO11N only POWER activity will confirm.
3. Executing CPTA for overhead allocation.
4. KSS2 for power activity
5. No splitting for other cost elements
6. KSII Actual price calculation
7. MFN1 Revaluation of order
After revaluatin of order when i am checking actul cost for activities only power cost is coming.
Please find the enclosed print screens for same above process.
Please guide me how to get the actual price calculation for other activities.
KP26 :
KSS2:
KSII:
CO03:
Regards,
VivaanHi Rajneesh,
Yes Splitting rule is Activity only.
Ex.
1.Order Quantity = 1000
2. I confirmed yeild 500 Qty & power activity 200 in CO11N.
3. Now when i execute CPTA for that order its calculating like below.
4. KSS2:
KSII:
Now actual price is coming same for other activities except power.
If i maintain no split structure that time in KSII only power actual price coming as print screens posted in original query posted.
Please advise me on Actuall price calculation as per our business scenario.
Regards,
Vivaan
Now my client is asking is as below
Cost center report xxxxxx
Water GL cost = 60000
Water Qautnity=1000(This is PO Total order quantity)
Water actual price=60000/1000 =60
Confirmed Quantity= 500
Actual price calculation for water = 500*60=30000
same for other activities also.
Please advise.
Regards,
Vivaan -
Actual Price Calculation (KSII)
hi,
I am not able to get the actual prices for my production order.
I maintained certain settings for actual price calculation in OKEQ.
Does it is mandatory to run the MFN1 (Revaluation of actual prices) before the KSII.
SrinivasHi Sateesh,
Please find below the process for calculation of Actual Activity Prices:
1. Define Splitting structure, rules (method). I am sure you would have done this
2. Assign the splitting structure to Cost Centers. I hope you would be done this as well
3. Actual values (Costs and quantitative details) will get collected to cost centers in the following way:
- Quantities will get collected to Cost Centers once the confirmation of activities are done for the production order. Please make sure that "Record Quantity" check box is selected for the relevant secondary cost elements.
- Values will get collected from FI to the primary cost elements
you may check whether the values have been properly collected to the cost center using the cost center reports
4. Execute cost Split using - KSS2
5. Then calculate Actual activity unit price - KSII
6. Once the prices are successfully calculated, you can check the prices in KP26
7. after this process is completed then you can revaluate you production orders using the actual activity prices
I hope i made is clear.
Let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Actual Price Calculation Issues
Hi,
I need explanation on how the system calculates actual prices in KSII.
In my cases i maintained Rs 1.00 as variable price for my activity type and cost center combination in KP26. My planned activity is 1000 Mins and actual activity is 3600. in KSII system is showing 2129.64 as actual price calculation. how the system is calculation as 2129.64. If i see cost center report it is showing that over absorption as -2600.
Please guide me on the actual price calculation.HI,
KSII - Actual Cost/Actual Qty.
Please check what is your actual cost and Actual qty. in your cost center report and check. Planned qty. or Planned cost is not taken for consideration during KSII.
Bye,
Ramesh -
Actual price calculation - acutal price indicator KSII
Hi Friends
I am trying to calculate actual price (KSII) and am getting the following message.
All activity prices are manually entered
Message no. KP211
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area 1000, fiscal year 2009, and version 0 were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Pl suggest what the actual price indicator should be in activity master data
I am putting 5 there (after some actual data is posted) but it is not working. it is still giveing the above error and not calculating the actual price.
Pl suggest the way out.
Regards,Hi,
In activity type creation check whether you maintained activity category as "1" and actual price indicator as"5"
Regards,
Sreekanth -
Cost splitting and Actual price calculation
Dear all,
What is the difference between cost splitting and actual price calculation?
Thanks & Regards,
ArHi,
KSS2 (splitting) is fixed cost splitting based on defined splitting rules. Fix cost splitting means, although the cost are activity unindependent (=FIX) they are splitted to each actual activity unit,... (based on the splitting rule you use)
This is/can be a prerequisite for calculating actual activity rates, which is done by KSII (actual price calculation).
best regards, Christian -
KSII (Actual Price Calculation)
Gurus
When I execute the said KSII; result for activity prices is as follows:
ACTIVITY TYPE 1 = ACTUAL COST/ACTUAL HRS = RESULT OK
ACTIVITY TYPE 2 = ACTUAL COST/ACTUAL HRS = RESULT OK
ACTIVITY TYPE 3 = RESULT WRONG
ACTIVITY TYPE 4 = NO RESULT
Same rule is assigned to all activity types in Cost Splitting Structure.
Actual activity quantity is also posted for each activity, I am confused why not system's behaviour is same for all activity types price calculation.
Thanks
bukhariHi,
Just check if you have done the Cost Element planning for the correct Cost Element & Cost Centre combination as defined in the Splitting structure and further the Splitting rule is based on the Activity quantity.(KP26)
Also ensure that you have planned for the Activity quantity for the same cost centres for which you have planned the costs. (KP06)
Award points if useful.
Regards, -
Wrong actual price calculation
Dear Sap Experts
I'm running KSS2 to split costs into cost centers and getting a value of $ 12.461,66.
Volume of activities is 83,94, according S_ALR_87013611 and KSII.
Thing is that actual activity price given by the system is $ 151,56 and not $ 148,46 instead.
Some idea you could provide in order to investigate it?
Tks a lot, cheers
PatriciaHi Sateesh,
Pls go through the following example to understand Plan Activity Price and Actual Activity Price:
For Cost Center A, you do Cost Element Planning in KP06 (Ex. Rs.1,00,000). In KP26, you do the planned Activity Quantity (100 Hrs) - you will not update any price in KP26 screen usually . Now, to calculate the Planned Activity Price, you use the transaction code KSPI. The gives the result of Planned Activity Price of Rs.1000 per Hr.
Now, when you confirm the activities in Production Order in CO11n, the activity cost on the Production Order is updated with the Planned Price of Rs.1000. So, by the end of the period, if total actual hrs confirmed is 60 Hrs. ie., total cost loaded onto Production Orders is Rs.60,000.
Now, think of the actual cost that is booked to the Cost Center A (either through FI postings or distribution / assessment from other cost centers). If the actual cost that was posted to that cost center is only Rs.84,000. (Where as Planned Cost was Rs.1,00,000).
Now, when you run KSII transaction code for actual activity price calculation, the system will calculate the actual activity price by 84,000 / 60 Hrs =1,333.33.
This is the way how the system clearly shows and takes care of Under-Absorption / Over-Absorption in cost centers.
Then you run the transaction code MFN1 / CON2 to revaluate your Production Orders with the Actual Price of Activity.
After alll these steps only, you need to settle the Production Orders.
If you settle Production Orders before revaluating with Actual Activity Price, then again there will be some loaded on to Production Orders, so, you have to do the settlement again.
Hope my explanation is clear...
cheers....
SRIKANTH MUNNALURI -
CALCULATION OF ACTUAL PRICE CALCULATION - KSII
Dear Friends,
We are using Make to Order scenario and NOT USING Sales order based costing, I would like to calculate Automatic activity price calculation and revaluate my production order with actual prices (MFN1), for this I need to create & assign splitting rules to cost centers & follow the t.codes KSS2, KSII, KBK7 (DISPLAY) and finally MFN1.
For Calculation of KSS2, how Plan Quantity has to be decided, this because for calculating Operating rate system take the formula as below, whether the below formula is correct?
Actual quantity/ Planned quantity * variable price
If for a cost center, postings are happened in FI for 10000/- then how system calculate & segregate this?
if possible with an small example, when checked in KSS2 it shows the amount of postings from FI with cost elements.
But when we checked t.code KSII it was showing the some different Actual Activity and variable price. How system takes the Actual activity and Variable Price and is there any report to check this?
please guide me
Regards,
Sandeep
Edited by: sandeep jain jain on Nov 2, 2009 4:15 PMHi Paolo,
You were exactly right that it was rounding off.
But still am not able to get the calculation working for me.
In Cost Center Report Actual/ Plan it shows
Debit Assessment Cost Element 10000
Credit Machine Hour 458.16-
Credit labour Hour 124.96-
over/under Absorption 9,416.88
This are all actual cost.
When i run KSII the result is as below
Oty Object Name AUn Activity Qty Total Price Price(Fixed) PUnit
ATY MBX273/L1 Testing CCTR H 1.666 3,001.20 3,001.20 1
ATY MBX273/M1 Testing CCTR H 1.666 3,001.20 3,001.20 1
I am not getting how this value 3,001.20 is calculating.
Kindly help me to under stand this
Edited by: lolu jo on Oct 28, 2011 3:57 PM -
Actual price calculation for multiple activity types
Gurus,
I am working on a scenario where we have 2 main cost centers (A & B) from which services are used in different cost centers one of which is C. C is assigned to a work center. Now for the cost center C,two activity types are defined ATA and ATB which are actually the services from cost center A and B respectively.
Now for standard cost estimate I can define planned rates for those two activities based on the cost center C. Now at the month end I want to draw the costs from A and B based on the % of the services drawn by C and then calculate the actual price for those activities, i.e. run revaluation cycle. My question is, when I would run the revaluation cycle, how am I going to differentiate the cost of each activity types based on the cost input from respective cost centers (A and B) ?
I short, with more than one activity type and more than one input cost center, is it possible to valuate the activities on actual prices?
Thanks in advance!
SnigdhoHi Snigdho
Yes, you can!!
If I have understood your question well - What you want is that the Cost allocated to From A to C should be divided by Act type ATA and cost allocated from B to C, should be divided by ATB, at the period end... Is that what you want?
You can achieve this in SAP...
1. Create 2 separate secondary cost elements for each Act Type ATA and ATB
2. Create a Spliting structure in OKES... You would assign Secondary cost ele 1 to ATA and Sec Cost ele 2 to ATB
Assign cost center C to this splitting structure in OKEW
3. now, when you calculate Act price, you will get what you want
Regards
Ajay M -
Actual Activity Price Calculation
Dear Gurus,
1. I have defined activity type say "Power" through KL01
2. Maintained the planned price through KP26 for the cost center which is going to use this activity type. say
cost center is "CCTR1"
3. Now there is something as actual activity price calculation at period end
4. When i execute through KSII i get the actual price which is the debited cost elements of the "CCTR1"
divided by the Activity Type "Power"
5. The debit balance of cost elements in "CCTR1" is Rs 10000 and activity type consumed through process
order is 200 KWH, hence the Actual price comes to Rs 50 Rs/KWH. While the planned price in KP26 is
Rs 6/KWH
How logical is this....
With Regards,
AmitHi Amit,
Let me give some insight into the Activity price calculation and cost obsorption from Cost Center to Prodcution
1. Normally we incur the production cost through FI like Direct Labor, Power, Indirect Labour and other indirectct production overheads
2. This cost is posted to Production Cost Centers
3. Now this cost need to be obsorbed to product cost using either Activity costing through Routing or Overhead costing using costing sheet.
Since you question is for Activity costing, let us focus only on activity price and absorption to Product Cost
1. All the direct cost that can be tracked with certain reasonability with activity types can be absorbed through activity costing to product costing
2. Now in your case, take for example - the industry you are working is power intensive, then we can track the consumption of Power using activity costing
3. At the first instance, you need to forcast the activity quantities for the month (based on the production planning)
4. Based on this, you forecast the cost that would be incurred for the expected output
5. Calculate planned Acvitiy Unit price and update it in KP26. The updation can be manual or automatic (using Cost Splitting and Price Calculation in case of Activity independant cost planning)
6. For all the activity confirations to the production/process order, the cost obsorption will take place based on the planned price
Actual
7. The cost of the power will be booked in FI and posted to Production Cost Center for the month.
8. The actual Activity quantity will be booked from Production confirmation for the month
9. At the end of the month, you need to do the actual price calculation. This calculation will be based on the TOTAL COST BOOKED FOR THE MONTH TOWARDS POWER FOR THAT COST CENTER DEVIDED BY TOTAL QUANTITY CONSUMPTION RECORDED IN THE COST CENTER
10. Once this is done, You can revaluate the activity quanitities booked on each of the production order.
This is how the activity cost aborption will take place in product costing
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Hi all
Can anybody tell me how to do the Activity price calculation.
we are doing the activity type planning by using T code KP26
but that has to be done manually,my client want system should calculate the price automatically
First of all can it possible,if yes please let me know the configuration
Thanks
Ansumanhi
Calculating Actual Activity at Actual Prices
Because you carry out actual price calculation at period-end closing, no actual prices exist at the time of the actual activity posting. For this reason, the initial valuation of actual activity uses plan prices. If no plan price exists (as is the case with pure actual cost calculation), you can post the activity without a valuation. During period-end closing, the system calculates the actual prices iteratively and, provided you have made the required settings recalculates the difference between the plan and actual prices (see the example in Actual Price Calculations).
The procedure for the actual price calculation does not differ from plan price calculation (see: Plan Price Calculation). You can calculate a purely iterative price in the actual, just as for plan price calculation. To do so, select Purely iterative price in the fiscal year parameters of the version.
To calculate the purely iterative actual price, the system uses the actual costs and actual activity for all cost centers/activity types or business processes. The plan prices (whether calculated iteratively or entered manually) are treated by the system like manual settings and are ignored during the calculation of the purely iterative price in the actual. Actual activity inputs are initially valuated with the relevant plan price. This may result in large variances between the purely iterative actual price and the calculated actual price; activity inputs are valuated with plan prices, whereas the credits on cost centers and business processes are based on activity valuated with iterative actual prices.
In the price report (see: Price Report) you can compare the purely iterative prices with the prices calculated through the manual settings. In this way, you can analyze the effects of price changes (in actual, the manually-set prices and the iteratively calculated plan prices) on the complete pricing framework.
for furthur notes
http://help.sap.com/search/search_overview.jsp
nagesh -
Use an alternative Exchange Rate Type for activity actual price
Dear All,
I try to use an alternative Exchange Rate (not M) in controlling area version "0", I need to use a custom currency exchange rate like in planned price (here I create a new planned version with exchange rate "N").
I find same notes and it seems that standard Sap use only Exchange Rate "M" for actual price but I notice that for example in transaction KB21N (activity allocation) system shows in additional info exchange rate "N" (input in version "0").
Is not possibile to use other Exchange Rate for actual price, activity allocation, for confirmed activity in production order?
Controlling area has currency type 30 (group currency EUR), this company has MXN.
Thanks in advance for your support
DariaIn KB21N (activity allocation), system uses the exchange rate type you have maintained in controlling area version plan settings (transaction OKEQN). Activity allocation during the month always happen at the planned price maintained in KP26 at the exchange rate specified in plan version. During actual price calculation and revaluation during month end, it calculates actual activity price at (uses M rate to convert to controlling area currency) and revaluates consumption.
I think you cannot use other exchange rate, see the coding in include LKSPIF00 that is used in KSII where currency type is hard coded to M, if this is plan price calculation it's picking tka07-kurst.
Best Regards,
Venkata Ganesh Perumalla -
I find certain settings in the controlling area settings - settings for each fiscal year for planning and price calculation. My requirement is to calculate the actual price of the activities. What should be my settings in this area in order to calculate the actual price of my activities ?
Hi,
In Maintain Version in settings for Controlling folder in Settings for each Fiscal Year under Price calculation tab
Select 1 Revaluation in separate transaction (or) 2 Revaluation in original transaction for Revaluation at Actual Prices field. Details as bellow
Revaluation at Actual Prices
Indicator determining whether actual activities in a version are
valuated with actual prices and how the valuation is performed.
0 Not valuated
All actual activities valuated with the plan price
1 Revaluation in separate transaction
All actual activities valuated with the actual price; original
allocation unchanged
The differences between allocations valuated with plan and actual
prices are posted under a separate transaction (actual price
calculation).
2 Revaluation in original transaction
All actual activities revaluated with the actual price; original allocation changed
The differences between allocations valuated with actual and plan
prices are not shown with this option.
Edited by: Bhagiradha Pinnamareddy on Jun 4, 2009 2:35 PM
Edited by: Bhagiradha Pinnamareddy on Jun 4, 2009 2:36 PM
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