"Add to Adobe Media Encoder queue" option very slow

Hello,
The new "add to Adobe Media Encoder queue" directly from After Effects is great, but it is sooooo much slower than encoding directly from Adobe Media Encoder.
My comp is very simple : it's a 90 min. length video that I'm trying to convert from 24 to 25 frames. I need a MPEG2 export for DVD, so I can't use AE because there're no option to export to MPEG2 files in AE.
AME announced 10 hours of encoding, but after 5 hours it was only at a third of completion. So I rendered the movie in DNxHD, then encoded in AME : 1 hour for the DNxHD file, and 4 hours for the MPEG2. Much faster!
I run After Effects CC (12.1.0.168) and AME CC (7.1.0.74) on a windows 7 system with i5 processor and 8go of RAM.
Anybody else encoutered this issue?

Tento wrote:
As for the higher encoding time of exporting to AME frome AE, do you have any clue ?
Have you applied any effects to the footage in your After Effects comp? Are you using time remapping or the Time Warp effect? That will slow down the encode significantly. Also, what is the format of your source footage?
Mind that, depending on what you're asking After Effects to render, encoding a comp via AME may not be as fast as using the Render Queue in After Effects. Feeding frames to AME via Dynamic Link incurs some memory overhead and limitations; for example After Effects can not render multiple frames simultaneously on different processors for Dynamic Link encodes.
If I were you, I would try to solve the problems with AME transcoding your footage. You should bring the issue to the AME forum. If you're fully committed to not using AME, I recommend using Premiere Pro, not After Effects, for this type of job.
Regardless of all the above, I agree with Rick: you shouldn't need to transcode 24fps footage to 25fps for playback from DVD. DVD players will do that frame rate translation for you at playback time. But if your footage is not PAL dimensions (720x576), a DVD player won't necessarily convert the frame size, so transcoding at least the frame size is recommended. Bottom line: I would let your DVD authoring software (Encore?) handle the original file; it should do any conversions necessary when you set the DVD format to PAL.

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