Adding extreme plus express to roaming network

I have found the answers to most of my questions. however I summarize
I have a 4 year old extreme in the basement and an wireless extending express upstairs
I am thinking of creating a roaming network with a new extreme upstairs (with future apple tv) and extending this wirelessly to express for airplay function next to hi fi.
Is There any benefit to placing the latest model extreme upstairs (where all the action is ) or would it have to be in first place in the daisy chain ie in basement next to computer and modem.Would it broadcast the two wireless frequencies 2.4 and 5
Am I correct in beleiving that extreme no1 would give the dhcp the second one is a bridge and this one should allow it's network to be extended ( both with same wireless settings) the express would just be extending the second extreme.
Thank you for any precisions

Is There any benefit to placing the latest model extreme upstairs (where all the action is )
I assume that your basement AirPort Extreme is the "square" version of the product....not the older "round" version. You would want to locate the new AirPort Extreme where the action is.
Would it broadcast the two wireless frequencies 2.4 and 5
Yes, both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands will be broadcast using the same wireless network name, so devices will connect automatically to the best band based on their capabilities (an older iPhone cannot connect to 5 GHz, for example) and their location in relation to the AirPort Extreme.
Am I correct in beleiving that extreme no1 would give the dhcp the second one is a bridge and this one should allow it's network to be extended
That is correct.
the express would just be extending the second extreme.
That is correct if the Express is closer to the second AirPort Extreme than it is to the first AirPort Extreme. If the Express is closer to the basement AirPort Extreme, it will receive a stronger signal from that location, so it will extend the signal from the basement AirPort Extreme.

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Hi
I have an Apple extreme AC installed with an Apple Express N setup as a bridge through ethernet to extend my network. Im thinking of adding another express to a location that has no ethernet.
All I should need to do is set the extreme for "extend my Network" and setup the express that way as well?
Thanks!

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Im trying to find out if it is possible to connect a Sky SR101 Hub to a Airport Extreme to create a roaming network with 3 Airport Extremes?
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Is there a known conflict between an extreme g base station and express n in a roaming network?

I have an extreme g base station connected to a cable modem, an express g connected to a linksys switch via ethernet, and an express n connected to the same switch via Ethernet. The switch is connected to the extreme g base station by Ethernet as well. They are all set up to be a roaming network with 128 bit WEP security. I made two changes to the network recently. I went from a WDS setup with the extreme g and express g, which was generally stable but slow, to the roaming setup above, and I added the express n. Now something is causing the network to loose connectivity at least once a day, requiring a restart of the extreme g. My hunch is the express n is causing problems for the older g units.
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Attempting to eliminate a dead spot in Wifi coverage [and implement AirPlay] have one Airport Extreme 802.11n and two Airport Express 802.11n's.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145
The Airport Extreme is of course connected to cable modem and Ethernet switch, and one Airport Express is connected to the Ethernet network. As per instructions for creating a "Roaming Network", Airport Express is set to same SSID, security type, and Password.
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1. How does the client device know which Airport to connect to? In other words, will it switch to the closer WiFi transmitter automatically? The WiFi reception problem is intermittent in the fringe areas so what I do not want it for it to stick with the more distant Airport Extreme in the basement when the Airport Express which is closer will work better.
2. How can I tell which of the Airports the attached client device is using?
The third Airport Express will be in a third location - I was planning on using it also for expanding coverage but after reading the warnings about performance suffering when purely using WiFi for the expansion in this location ("Wireless Extended Network" without an ethernet connection) I have figured that the single wired Airport Express will be adequate and will use the third Express to do Airplay only.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259
Question: Can I use this second Airport Express to extend the wireless network via "Extended Wireless Network" while the other two are in "Roaming Netowrk" configuration? Without bogging down??
Mitch

1. How does the client device know which Airport to connect to?
The Mac computer will automatically connect to the wireless access point with the strongest signal...which is probably the closest AirPort. An iPhone or iPad may not do this and will tend to stay connected to one AirPort.
2. How can I tell which of the Airports the attached client device is using?
On a Mac, open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility. Click on one of AirPorts. In the area to the right, locate the AirPort ID and jot that down. Then do the same for your other AirPort.
Move your Mac near one of the AirPorts and log on to the wireless. Hold down the option key on the Mac while you click the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen. Look for the BSSID. That is the AirPort ID of the device to which you are connected.
If you are close to the "remote" AirPort, and you see the AIrPort ID of the "main" router when you are testing, then you know that the network is not configured correctly.
Can I use this second Airport Express to extend the wireless network via "Extended Wireless Network" while the other two are in "Roaming Netowrk" configuration? Without bogging down??
There will be a modest 10-15% bandwidth loss with the "extend" setup, assuming that the Express is located where it can receive a strong wireless signal from the AirPort to which it is associated. You can avoid the bandwidth loss if the Express is also connected via Ethernet as part of the roaming configuration.

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