Adding quorum disk causing wasted space?
Hi,
Any idea whether this is a bug or an expected behavior?
Seeing this with ASM 11.2.0.4 and 12.1.0.4
Have a Normal redundancy disk group (FLASHDG22G below) with two disks of equal size. With no data on the disk group the Usable_file_MB is equal to the size of one disk, as expected.
But if I add a small quorum disk to the disk group, the Usable_file_MB decreases to 1/2 of the disk size. So, half of the capacity is lost.
Thoughts?
[grid@symcrac3 ~]$ asmcmd lsdsk -k
Total_MB Free_MB OS_MB Name Failgroup Failgroup_Type Library Label UDID Product Redund Path
20980 20878 20980 SYMCRAC3_A FG1 REGULAR System UNKNOWN /dev/symcrac3-a-22G
953 951 953 QUORUMDISK FGQ QUORUM System UNKNOWN /dev/symcrac3-a-quorum
20980 20878 20980 SYMCRAC4_A FG2 REGULAR System UNKNOWN /dev/symcrac4-a-22G
[grid@symcrac3 ~]$ asmcmd lsdg
State Type Rebal Sector Block AU Total_MB Free_MB Req_mir_free_MB Usable_file_MB Offline_disks Voting_files Name
MOUNTED NORMAL N 512 4096 1048576 42913 42707 20980 10388 0 N FLASHDG22G/
There are two separate issues:
1) ASMCMD silently fails to add quorum failure groups. Adds them, but as regular failure groups.
2) Even if a quorum failure group is added with SQLPlus, the space is still lost – I have just confirmed it. And it doesn’t matter whether I add a quorum disk to an existing group or create a new group with a quorum disk.
For #2 here is the likely source of the problem. Usable_File_MB = (FREE_MB – REQUIRED_MIRROR_FREE_MB ) / 2.
REQUIRED_MIRROR_FREE_MB is computed as follows (per ASM 12.1 user guide):
–Normal redundancy disk group with more than two failure groups
The value is the total raw space for all of the disks in the largest failure group. The largest failure group is the one with the largest total raw capacity. For example, if each disk is in its own failure group, then the value would be the size of the largest capacity disk.
Instead, it should be "with more than two regular failure groups".
With just two failure groups it is not possible to restore full redundancy after one of them fails. So, REQUIRED_MIRROR_FREE_MB = 0 in this case.
Also REQUIRED_MIRROR_FREE_MB should remain 0 even when there are three failure groups if one of them is a quorum failure group. But the logic seems to be broken here.
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You can first refer the following step by step third party article and KB:
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https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn782852.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396
Replacing a failed disk in Windows Server 2012 Storage Spaces with PowerShell
https://www.hodgkins.net.au/storage/replace-failed-disk-in-storage-spaces-pool-with-powershell/
Step By Step: How to Replace Faulty Disk In Two-Way Mirrored Storage Tiered Space
http://charbelnemnom.com/2014/09/step-by-step-how-to-replace-faulty-disk-in-two-way-mirrored-storage-tiered-space-storagespaces-ws2012r2/
More information:
Storage Spaces - Designing for Performance
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/15200.storage-spaces-designing-for-performance.aspx
Storage Spaces Overview
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831739.aspx
Windows Server Storage Spaces: What is it and why should I use it?
http://curah.microsoft.com/5049/windows-server-2012-r2-storage-spaces-what-is-it-and-why-should-i-use-it
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Can't start cluster, 2 node 3.3 cluster lost 2 quorum disks
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1 vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t5d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d1
1 vmcluster2:/dev/rdsk/c3t5d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d1
2 vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t4d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d2
2 vmcluster2:/dev/rdsk/c3t4d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d2
3 vmcluster2:/dev/rdsk/c1t0d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d3
4 vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c1t0d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d4
5 vmcluster2:/dev/rdsk/c3t6d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d5
5 vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t6d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d5
6 vmcluster2:/dev/rdsk/c1t1d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d6
7 vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c1t1d0 /dev/did/rdsk/d7
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scdidadm: Device ID "vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t5d0" does not match physical device ID for "d1".
Warning: Device "vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t5d0" might have been replaced.
scdidadm: Device ID "vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t4d0" does not match physical device ID for "d2".
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scdidadm: Device ID "vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t6d0" does not match physical device ID for "d5".
Warning: Device "vmcluster1:/dev/rdsk/c3t6d0" might have been replaced.
scdidadm: Could not save DID instance list to file.
scdidadm: File /etc/cluster/ccr/global/did_instances exists.
Disks are ok, and accesible from format
[root@vmcluster1:/]# echo | format (05-11 11:28)
Searching for disks...done
AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
0. c1t0d0 <DEFAULT cyl 8351 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63>
/pci@0,0/pci8086,2829@d/disk@0,0
1. c1t1d0 <DEFAULT cyl 1020 alt 2 hd 64 sec 32>
/pci@0,0/pci8086,2829@d/disk@1,0
2. c3t4d0 <IET-VIRTUAL-DISK-0-1.00GB>
/iscsi/[email protected]%3Astorage.lun10001,0
3. c3t5d0 <DEFAULT cyl 497 alt 2 hd 64 sec 32>
/iscsi/[email protected]%3Astorage.lun20001,1
4. c3t6d0 <DEFAULT cyl 496 alt 2 hd 64 sec 32>
/iscsi/[email protected]%3Astorage.lun30001,2
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1. Boot nodes into non-cluster mode
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Example...
1.. Take any project with a decent number of photos
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A QD can be any shared disk with data on undere SVM or VxVM control or just on it's own. -
Hi,
I just want to know how to assign quorum disk under Sun cluster. Can I use LUN disk that is shared for both node as quorum disk and do I need to bring the disk first to vxvm control before using it as quorum disk? Appreciate any response/advise.
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First run scdidadm -L from either node. This will give you a list of shared disk devices. Find one that is shared between the nodes and note its DID. ie d21
scconf -a -q globaldev=d21
Once you have added a quorum disk you can set install mode to off.
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I would also recommend reading this:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-3384/6m9lu6fig?q=sun+cluster+add+quorum+disk&a=view
Then reset you quorum count.
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Hi,
Documentation says that the QUORUM disks does not contain any user data and the QUORUM disk are added as the failure groups to the disk groups? didnt find much on google as well.
Can any one please confirm
1. are the quorum disks created to contain the VOTING or OCRs (RAC)?
2. what data does the quorum disks contain. if it is not holding any user data?
3. use of quorum disks?
Thanks,
Vishnu P855370 wrote:
Hi,
Documentation says that the QUORUM disks does not contain any user data and the QUORUM disk are added as the failure groups to the disk groups? didnt find much on google as well.
Can any one please confirm
1. are the quorum disks created to contain the VOTING or OCRs (RAC)?
2. what data does the quorum disks contain. if it is not holding any user data?
3. use of quorum disks?
Thanks,
Vishnu P
>Hi,
Documentation says that the QUORUM disks does not contain any user data and the QUORUM disk are added as the failure groups to the disk groups? didnt find much on google as well.
Can any one please confirm
1. are the quorum disks created to contain the VOTING or OCRs (RAC)?
2. what data does the quorum disks contain. if it is not holding any user data?
3. use of quorum disks?
Thanks,
Vishnu P
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In order to avoid this problem DEC added a Quorum Disk. A valid Cluster was 50% + 1 members.
In a two node RAC, you don't want each system independently decide it was the remaining cluster member
& not share changes with the other system. -
I/O error when adding quorum device
Hi all, i'm in the process of building a two-node 3.2 Sun cluster using two HP DL380 servers. I seem to have managed to get the sun cluster 3.2 s/w installed on both nodes but i'm having problems adding a quorum device.
Using either scsetup or clquorum, i get the following error:
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clquorum: (C192716) I/O error.
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d3 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060160106023E0d4
d3 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060168106023E0d4
d4 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A106023E0d3
d4 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060162106023E0d3
d4 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060160106023E0d3
d4 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060168106023E0d3
d5 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A106023E0d2
d5 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060162106023E0d2
d5 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060160106023E0d2
d5 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060168106023E0d2
d6 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A106023E0d1
d6 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060162106023E0d1
d6 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060160106023E0d1
d6 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060168106023E0d1
d7 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A106023E0d0
d7 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060162106023E0d0
d7 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060160106023E0d0
d7 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t50060168106023E0d0
d8 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A1060235Dd3
d8 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601621060235Dd3
d8 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601681060235Dd3
d8 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601601060235Dd3
d9 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A1060235Dd2
d9 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601621060235Dd2
d9 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601681060235Dd2
d9 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601601060235Dd2
d10 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A1060235Dd1
d10 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601621060235Dd1
d10 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601681060235Dd1
d10 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601601060235Dd1
d11 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016A1060235Dd0
d11 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601621060235Dd0
d11 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601681060235Dd0
d11 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t500601601060235Dd0
d12 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016830220BA0d0
d12 nfst1:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016130220BA0d0
d12 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016930220BA0d0
d12 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c2t5006016030220BA0d0
d13 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c1t0d0
d14 nfst2:/dev/rdsk/c3t0d0
Cluster DID Devices ===
Device Instance Node Status
/dev/did/rdsk/d10 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d11 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d12 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d14 nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d2 nfst1 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d3 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d4 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d5 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d6 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d7 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d8 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 Ok
/dev/did/rdsk/d9 nfst1 Ok
nfst2 OkHi All,
I have a very similar problem, maybe someone has seen it ?
I'm trying to finish installation of Sun Solaris 3.2 on two Sun-Fire-V240s (HBAs are QLogic QLA2342) over SPARC Solaris 10.
When I get to the stage of adding a quorum disk to Sun Cluster 3.2:
# scconf -a -q globaldev=d24
the following error is received:
scconf: Failed to add quorum device (d24) - unable to scrub the device.
I ran the commands:
# scdidadm -r
# scdidadm -i
# scdidadm -L
Where the d24 is as follows:
# scdidadm -L
24 SRV-00-003:/dev/rdsk/c5t128d41 /dev/did/rdsk/d24
24 SRV-00-049:/dev/rdsk/c5t128d41 /dev/did/rdsk/d24
# ls -ls /dev/did/rdsk/d24
2 lrwxrwxrwx 2 root root 42 Apr 7 13:40 /dev/did/rdsk/d24 -> ../../../devices/pseudo/did@24:24,24s7,raw
Format describes the disk as:
Current Disk = c5t128d40
<StoreAge-rbarak_vol40_clu-#12 cyl 98 alt 2 hd 4 sec 512>
/pseudo/vhba@0/vsd@80,28
I Googled the net, and beside references to disks bigger than 1 GB, I couldn't find any relevant suggestions.
Anyone has any experience with this "unable to scrub the device" error ?
Thanks,
Ron. -
How to prevent wasted space on a table
I am running a SAP Solution Manager 7.1 on Sybase ASE 15.7.0.110. The InfoCube table /BI0/F0SMD_PE2H keeps on growing quickly. This wasn't the case on other RDBMS. The ATM job doesn't help. Also running the ATM job manually doesn't change the table size:
reorg compact [SMP.SAPSR3./BI0/F0SMD_PE2H]
Only if I use the rebuild option, the table size shrinks:
reorg rebuild [SMP.SAPSR3./BI0/F0SMD_PE2H]
This causes the InfoCube with 1 million rows to shrink from 8 GB to 400 MB. That was an awful lot of wasted space.
Is it possible to avoid this excessive growth? Looks like the daily data load is causing the table to grow quickly again.
Or should I try to perform this "reorg rebuild" via the weekly ATM job?
Regards,
MarkThis is Sybase ASE 15.7.0.110. The mentioned table is a SAP InfoCube fact table. Fact tables never contain LOB data, they are composed of int and decimal columns. The SAP note 1780367 is about updated LOB columns. On the fact table, there are only inserts performed, no updates or deletes. Therefore I think the note doesn't help. I am just puzzled what causes Sybase ASE to allocate 7 times more space than required.
Name
Owner Object_type Object_status
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H SAPSR3 user table deallocate first text page, page level compressed, contains compressed data
(1 row affected)
Column_name
Type
Length
Prec
Scale
Nulls
Not_compressed
Default_name
Rule_name
Access_Rule_name
Computed_Column_object
Identity
KEY_0SMD_PE2HP
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2HT
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2HU
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H1
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H2
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H3
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H4
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H5
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H6
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H7
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H8
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
KEY_0SMD_PE2H9
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_SUM
decimal
9
17
3
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_MIN
decimal
9
17
3
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_MAX
decimal
9
17
3
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_COUN
decimal
9
17
3
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_PERI
decimal
9
17
3
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
SMD_KEY
int
4
NULL
NULL
0
0
REPOLOAD_MACH_656002337
NULL
NULL
NULL
0
Object has the following indexes
index_name
index_keys
index_description
index_max_rows_per_page
index_fillfactor
index_reservepagegap
index_created
index_local
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~P
KEY_0SMD_PE2HT, KEY_0SMD_PE2H1, KEY_0SMD_PE2H2, KEY_0SMD_PE2H3, KEY_0SMD_PE2H4, KEY_0SMD_PE2H5, KEY_0SMD_PE2H6, KEY_0SMD_PE2H7, KEY_0SMD_PE2H8, KEY_0SMD_PE2H9, KEY_0SMD_PE2HU, KEY_0SMD_PE2HP
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~01
KEY_0SMD_PE2HP
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~04
KEY_0SMD_PE2H1
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~05
KEY_0SMD_PE2H2
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~06
KEY_0SMD_PE2H3
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~07
KEY_0SMD_PE2H4
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~08
KEY_0SMD_PE2H5
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~09
KEY_0SMD_PE2H6
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~10
KEY_0SMD_PE2H7
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~11
KEY_0SMD_PE2H8
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
/BI0/F0SMD_PE2H~12
KEY_0SMD_PE2H9
nonclustered
0
0
0
Apr 7 2014 1:20PM
Local Index
(11 rows affected) -
We've got a simple 3-node Hyper-V cluster setup which initially passed the verify tool 100%. We created it, added the drives from the SAN, everything works great (including planned/unplanned fail-overs) BUT.... when we now re-verify the cluster we
get a quorum warning.
I understand that we can designate one of the disks on the SAN as a quorum disk, and if we do that warning goes away, but if we do that does that mean we cannot use that disk for actual storage of VMs?We've got a simple 3-node Hyper-V cluster setup which initially passed the verify tool 100%. We created it, added the drives from the SAN, everything works great (including planned/unplanned fail-overs) BUT.... when we now re-verify the cluster we
get a quorum warning.
I understand that we can designate one of the disks on the SAN as a quorum disk, and if we do that warning goes away, but if we do that does that mean we cannot use that disk for actual storage of VMs?
With a 3 node cluster you can use "node majority" so everything should work fine w/o Quorum disk.
Right, you don't store any data on Quorum disk. Keep it for system (cluster voting) use.
For your reference see:
Understanding Quorum
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731739.aspx
Hope this helped a bit :)
StarWind VSAN [Virtual SAN] clusters Hyper-V without SAS, Fibre Channel, SMB 3.0 or iSCSI, uses Ethernet to mirror internally mounted SATA disks between hosts. -
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The second line down shows: File, Edit, View, History, Bookmarks, Tools, Help -- then about 70%waste space -- rest of line is blank -- How can we put stuff from various lines into one or two lines Max ?
To continue, in my case, the next line has a couple of tabs -- this is useful -- maybe if there could be an easy way to show tabs in their own line when lots of various pages need to be open but when need max space viewable below to click a dropdown to push tabs up to end of next line above (in the waste space)
Finally, my page has the 4th line taken up by the Forward and Back arrows, the web address line, and then a shorter box called iLivid Web Search with a magnifying glass and then a little box at the end of a house -- which I use all the time to go to my home page for new tabs opened
I think it would be cool if we could easily elim all but the blue line and one more line by pushing stuff in line 3 and 4 up into line 1 (blue line) and line 2
My much older IE version had a feature you could drag the lines up they would do what I am saying with all the lines except the blue line at the top -- then when it compressed thje info, it would just show part of title and then a little // sort of button to click to see or expand a part of the line to read it all if needed
It seems likely this has mostly been solved but I can not seem to figure how to use the settting and buttons on my firefox page to accomplish these changes easily back and forth
From my looking at it, these features need to be available when you right click on each line but maybe my version8 is not set up quite right
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I tried to print out : Communicating With Objects
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CocoaFunda mentals/CommunicatingWithObjects/CommunicateWithObjects.html
After trying several different settings and printed only the first page until I got the print more or less the way I wanted it, however...
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Does anybody have a clue how to get rid of all the wasted space on each page ? There has to a simple way, this is 2010 and we've been doing this for 25+ years now.
I am sure it is something simple that I am overlooking ? I'd be grateful for any help.
Thank You,
Bill Hernandez
Plano, TexasWhat browser are you using? Try downloading a PDF if one is available, or try printing from XCode's Deveoper Documentation window.
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