ADFS3.0 - WIA returning 404 externally

Hi,
Interesting scenario:
ADFS farm behind a load balancing cluster for internal and external connections. Works as expected internally.
Windows auth used for all standard browsers, internally and externally.
No ADFS proxies
Domain joined laptop "working offline" at a remote location, running W7SP1Entx64.
When the laptop visits the ADFS signon page directly, it sees the standard page with a "sign in" button. Clicking the button doesn't log in as expected with SSO but simply returns (immediately) a standard 404 (page cannot be displayed).
If "Enable Integrated Windows Authentication" is turned off in IE, following a browser restart, everything starts working.
If the machine is connected to the domain (VPN), everything starts working as expected.
If the machine WAS connected to the domain, everything works as expected until it is rebooted.
This behaviour persists through multiple browsers.
This behaviour persists on multiple clients, including 8.1.
Non-domain-joined clients are unaffected (windows auth popup box).
It seems like the client is failing to negotiate windows auth when not domain-connected, and if windows auth is unavailable entirely, it falls back to basic perhaps? I don't want to turn off windows auth because I expect that will break other systems
which rely on it.
If this is the case, can I turn off windows auth within ADFS in favour of basic? Forms is not an acceptable answer.
TIA
Rob

Robin is spot on. WIA won't work over the Internet at least in a way that's not problematic for your users. Basic Auth is not support in AD FS 3.0 ... Don't read me as being criticial here Rob, but if you're going to the trouble of building an HA cluster/failover
deployment of AD FS, then it's in your best interests to use the WAP. Lately, I've seen a lot of marketing material that attempts to demysify ADFS integration by promoting the load balancer as a proxy supplement. These solutions are (largely) not integrated
from a federation standpoint, either when they implement a reverse proxy (SSL Bridging) function or from a pre-authentication standapoint using credential delegation. If you're integrating your load balancer as a SAML RP, thats another story...
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