Advance TDS
HI,
I am doing TDS postings.
I am aware that when I make a vendor down payment TDS automatically gets deducted.
Later when I post an invoice also TDS aautomatically will be deducted.
Later when I transfer the Spl Gl to Normal account the douwn payment will be reversed along with the TDS in F-54.
How should I clear the normal Items now, what will be the entry in F-53. Please guide me.
Please find below the entries I have passed.
1) In F-48 (Down Payment) I have posted,
29A Vendor Spl Gl Acc 1,00,000 (Vendor Acc No 801902)
50 SBI Account 98,000- (Acc No 200030)
50 TDS On Contractors 2,000- (100398)
2) In F-43, I have made a purchases posting
40 Manufacturing costs 1,50,000 (Gl Acc 400200)
31 Vendor Account 1,47,000- (Vendor Acc 801902)
50 TDS on Contractors 3,000- (Acc No 100398)
3) When I make a Transfer in F-54
40 TDS on contractors 2,000 (Gl Account 100398)
26 Vendor account 98,000 (Vendor No 801902)
39a Vendor Spl Gl Acount 1,00,000- (Acc no 801902)
Please let me know what will be the entry in F-53 while I make the clearing.
Thanks,
Shilpa.
Edited by: ashilpa54 on Mar 1, 2011 4:33 AM
HI,
F-53 without TDS you have to post.
vendor account ac 49000
Bank account 49000
Regards
Madhu M
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Thanks in Advance,
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I am having problem related to TDS reversal.
For e.g
Advance payment to Vendor: rs 10000/
Tds deducted is rs 200/
Now Invoice posted for amount is: 100000/
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We know that TDS on rs 10000 is deducted twice which is generally reversed during advance clearing with invoice through F-54. But when I am clearing Ad. with Invoice, no TDS is getting reversed.
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Withholding Tax(TDS) on Advance(F-48) and On Final Payment-F-53
Hi Expert,
I am facing an issue related to TDS, on vendor advance. Its little different scenario, However rule is whichever is early.
Requirement is like this, generally they deduct TDS on down payment and in case of final Payment. No TDS at the time of invoice booking.
For example- Down payment made to Contractor Rs 200 @ 2%, Total invoice value was Rs 1000. TDS to be deducted on advance will be Rs 4. Invoice booked for Rs 1000.
Hence at the time of payment F-53, system should deduct TDS Rs 16 on Rs (1000-200) Rs 800. How can we achieve same while making payment F-53?
If I have to do same thing in case of invoice (FB60) then I can change TDS base value manually and put Rs 800 then system will calculate automatically.
From configuration point of view I have ticked on-
Change view “Withholding tax type definition-posting at time of paym. Under this ticked both option one by one even its not working.
No centre invoice
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K.PrasadDear Mukthar,
I tried but its not working.During Payment system is adjusting TDS automatically which we paid on Advance but during payment,TDS on final payment is not clearing and not assigned amount is not getting zero.
Step 1: Advance Amount Rs 1000@ 2%
Step 2:Invoice Booked of Rs 5000,no TDS during Invoice booking but payment withholding Tax code was ticked during Invoice booking,as you suggested.
Note:Total Invoice value is Rs 5000 out of which Rs 1000 made as an advance.Please see-step 1.
Step 3:F-54 advance clearing against above Invoice
Step 4: Payment of Rs.4000 subject to TDS
Here is problem,system is calculating TDS on Rs 4000@2% which is correct but not assigned amount is not getting zero.
How to clear this?
Once you click on INR net 4,900 blue line,then amount entered gets 5000.
Now click on WH tax tab,which is showing everything correct. but question is how to clear Rs 80 and not assigned field make Zero.Which is our requirement. If not assigned become zero then issue resolved.
Hope you understand my problem.
If i click on difference posting and simulate then -Not assigned tab gets Zero but it create one open item with Document types-KZ, which again is a issue to clear and you cannot clear.And if you simulate it then system is reversing TDS on advance and final total TDS is crediting this time.Till here no issue. Here is simulation entry-
This you are able to get only once you click on difference posting but in FBL1N with document type KZ Rs 80 would be appear and that you cannot clear anyway.
Vendor Master detail:
Hope you understand my problem,if you run this scenario then you would have more clarity however I covered all process.
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Prasad
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