Advice for music video

Hi All
I am in the early parts of pre-production for a music-video. What I want to achieve is high contrast images in B & W of the band in a white studio, and then fill in the white with different kinds of stuff (kaleidoscope etc.) - the Gnarls Barkley "crazy" video is a good example.
I have done a few tests in FCP and AE in terms of keying out the white. The first problem I encounter is off course that AE's wonderful keylight effect cannot be used on Black or White colours ( I hadn't planned on shooting in front of a green/blue screen). Secondly, using AE's luma key I get the effect I want, but the key isn't that good. Then when I export I have to export the file as an animation which results in a space and rendering nightmare in FCP.
So, have anyone out there done something similar? How did you do it?
Is it best to shoot green/blue screen, or shoot high contrast footage, make into B & W and use the luma key?
Use FCP or AE? If AE any other way than the Animation codec for preserving transparency?
Can AE's keylight be used with B & W footage?
Is there a kaleidoscope filter for FCP? I know motion has a good one.
Cheers
-j-

Warning: You're going to get lots of contradictory answers because I (we) love to offer advice on projects where my (our) money and time are not at risk. That's part of the elitist attitude around here.
Is it best to shoot green/blue screen, or shoot high contrast footage, make into B & W and use the luma key? <</div>
I'd plan on shooting on a chromakey stage. If you shoot on white cyc, you are stuck with the white. If you shoot on a properly lit key stage, you can do anything. This depends on your ability to shoot on a suitable format and use a crew that knows how to light a key stage. You need a really good camera and good tape format. DV is out of the question.
Use FCP or AE? If AE any other way than the Animation codec for preserving transparency?< </div>
Why do you want to use something other than Animation? You can use a proprietary codec system that supports alpha but you did not mention access to specific cards.
Can AE's keylight be used with B & W footage? <</div>
Dunno, try the AE forum at adobe.com.
Is there a kaleidoscope filter for FCP? I know motion has a good one.< </div>
You're not going to be doing your effects in FCP.
bogiesan

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