Advice Mac Pro 5,1

Hello...
Please get me a every advice..
For you, I did well to buy MacPro 12-core (2x2,66 GHZ 6-core) 2010 and 16GB of memory ram?
It is very speed and powerfull of all computer of the world?
I have buy other two slot of memory ram 2x4GB in total arrived 24GB of memory ram from OWC..
THe question is, it is normal that to start-up and shut-up sometimes close/start speed and close/start a lot of seconds?
Because, I made a comparison a iMac with 8GB and MacPro with 16GB they are same to thing shut/start-up, only all programms it is very speed from open/close and work..
Ultimate question, I have tried remove a slot of 4GB and use 12GB it is a bit faster than 16GB why? Or maybe I'm wrong?
What do you thing?

Been over this before.
CS5.5 prefers
http://macperformanceguide.com/PhotoshopCS5-performance.html
http://macperformanceguide.com/OptimizingPhotoshopCS5-Intro.html
There are 32 tips about Mac Pro such as...
Which Mac Pro CPU for Photography, Video, Sound?
Mac Pro Westmere Clock Speed, Cores, and Cache
When More Is Less: Photoshop Slower With 12 Cores Than 6
Mac Pro Westmere Estimating CPU Performance
Mac Pro Westmere Hits and Misses
Mac Pro Westmere Ordering Tips: What to Get and What to Skip
Mac Pro Westmere Solid State Drive Option
Mac Pro Westmere How Much Memory and Where to Buy
Mac Pro Westmere Value Compared to Quad-Core iMac
Mac Pro Westmere Internal SATA Bandwidth
Mac Pro Westmere Test Machine Configuration
Mac Pro Westmere Photoshop Performance: diglloydSpeed1
Mac Pro Westmere Photoshop Performance: diglloydMedium
Mac Pro Westmere Photoshop Performance: diglloydHuge
Mac Pro Westmere Photoshop CS5 Panorama (Auto Align and Auto Blend)
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere.html
24GB RAM or more (3 x 8GB is good place to start)
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-Upgrade-CaseStudy-MacPro-Memory.html
SSD for system
1 x 3.33GHz 6-core
You want processor to be highest MHz and CS5 does not make efficient use of 12 cores and there is overhead in having two processors (2 x 6-core) which is where and why Intel is tweaking and optimizing and improving on the Quick Path interconnect and to speed up memory sharing between the two, as well as increase L3 cache, in the interest of rediucing latency.
Some things are best done like opening and sving when you put your files and projects on disk arrays, even the OWC PCIe SSD (1TB of SSD).
You might fid some of the articles in the macperformanceguide interesting.
And this: http://macperformanceguide.com/index.html

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