AE CS5 vs AE CC rendering

Hi Adobe users,
I am currently using a brand new 27" iMac. Core i7, 16 GB RAM, 4 GB VRAM graphics and Fusion Drive.
I upgraded from my 2011 model which had a Core i5, 16 GB RAM, 512 MB VRAM and a traditional HD.
Rendering times have definitely improved, but I thought I would see better. If I upgrade to AE CC, any thoughts on whether I'll be seeing improved rendering times? I'm talking about RAM Previews if that matters. When I'm finished with a comp I'll export it as a 720p ".mov" file.
For reference, what I animate.... I take 1080p video and scale that around a 720p frame in AE. Then I drop in my cartoon characters which are ~7,000x7,000 pixel puppets created in Photoshop. That is basically the extent. Slow RAM previews are a pain if I need to change a tiny little part in an animation. I do realize I could drop the resolution down.
Basically I'll happily spring for CC if I would see faster rendering on my machine. Any input would be great!

RAM, CPU, and disk speed are the most important things. Only consider the GPU after you've taken care of those other things.
See this page for resources about making After Effects work faster: http://adobe.ly/eV2zE7
See this page for information about hardware for After Effects: http://adobe.ly/pRYOuk

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See this:
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What is your nVidia driver version?
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Hi Manuel,
Please answer this time. I am going to replace my entire system, because my mother board does not support SLI.
I need to know from you exactly what cards in SLI configuration support horizontal spanning under windows 7.
I do not need brands, just the gpu's
Please answer
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There is no horizontal span support for any of our graphics cards under Windows 7, either Quadro or Geforce. We do have a feature called NVIDIA Surround which is like Horizontal Span but requires 3 monitors. It will not work across two monitors only. Also, all three monitors are required to run at the same screen resolution, refresh rate and sync polarity.
Since you are building a new system, any of the 400 series supports GPUs will support 2D NVIDIA Surround. For more information, you can visit the system requirements page at:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dv-system-re...technology.html
Horizontal Span is only supported at this time under Windows XP.
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Hi;
Thanks for the replies. I apologize for the "emotional" post. I should have provided more detail. I'm using PSD CS5 12.0.2 on a Mac Pro, running 10.6.7. I recently was upgraded to CS5, so yesterday was my first day using CS5. So to my dismay, a simple thing like stroking an object was not working as expected. I typically use shape layers, and stroke them with a stroke effect (although this issue is visible by stroking from the edit menu). I believe the image I attached showcases this issue. The black circle is a simple circle shape layer. The red stroke is visibly "jagged" and not a perfect circle. So not sure what is going on with my setup or if this is a preference or setting that needs to be turned on or off. Appreciate any insight.
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