Aiport Extreme and Airport Express are not working together with DSL

My 2wire modem failed and I have replaced it with a basic actiontec dsl modem. I have my airport extreme connected to the actiontec via ethenet cable. All is working. Internet access through the actiontec is working and internet access through the extreme is working. What I cannot for the life of me remember how to do is get my express to work as a range extender for airport extreme.
The extreme is set up in Ethernet not PPPoE mode which might be the issue, but I can't remember the right settings (IP ranges, etc) if I set it up in PPPoE mode.
Net - my network that was working DSL modem to Extreme to Express as a range extender no longer works at the Express end. And don't even get me started about AT&T tech support. Help smart guys/girls out there - I know this is something simple that I should have written down when I first set up my network...

shakeelium wrote:
Good People,
I have an Airport Extreme serving as my wireless router with an external hard drive connected to it. I also have an Airport Express in another room connected to a stereo for Airplay. Neither can be found on the Airport Utility (v5.5.3), but wireless internet still works. This happens often, with both reappearing in Airport Utility for short amounts of time periodically.
I've once had the same problem.
The reason for that issue is the frequency (radio band) hopping of the station.
On your AP-Extreme
Enter the manual setup
Disable Guest Network if not desperately needed
Set a dedicated name for the 5GHz wireless (wireless -> wireless options)
Eventually change the radio mode (if no 802.11b/g systems in your home) to "only 802.11n (5GHz) - only 802.11n (2.4GHz)" by holding down the option key *alt* while clicking on the drop down.
On your Mac
Disable (switch off) wireless
Enter system configuration -> network -> wireless
Uncheck "Ask to join new networks"
Enter advanced options and check that your wireless name is in the first position of the list. If not, drag it with the mouse to the first position.
Click apply
Join your wireless again and try to connect to the 5GHz name (SSID) because the 5GHz will improve the connection speed of your Mac remarkably.
Eventually you might change the settings on the Express too.
Check the location of the AP-Extreme.
It should NOT be placed: On the floor, in a corner, behind furniture, near metal objects, life high voltage wire or cordless phone bases.
It should be placed: As high as possible (up on a shelf or ceiling mounted) with a maximum line of sight to all stations, even thru walls.
If your home situation allows that, try to use the 5GHz band only. If you own a iPhone this must use the 2.4GHz radio.
Lupunus

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Airport Extreme and Airport Express are not found on the Airport Utility. Internet still works. Huh?

Good People,
I have an Airport Extreme serving as my wireless router with an external hard drive connected to it. I also have an Airport Express in another room connected to a stereo for Airplay. Neither can be found on the Airport Utility (v5.5.3), but wireless internet still works. This happens often, with both reappearing in Airport Utility for short amounts of time periodically. What's the deal? Both the Extreme and Express are less than 6 months old. It's a bit frustrating not getting tunes when you have everything set up right and not being able to use Time Machine consistently.
All recommendations appreciated.
Thanks.

shakeelium wrote:
Good People,
I have an Airport Extreme serving as my wireless router with an external hard drive connected to it. I also have an Airport Express in another room connected to a stereo for Airplay. Neither can be found on the Airport Utility (v5.5.3), but wireless internet still works. This happens often, with both reappearing in Airport Utility for short amounts of time periodically.
I've once had the same problem.
The reason for that issue is the frequency (radio band) hopping of the station.
On your AP-Extreme
Enter the manual setup
Disable Guest Network if not desperately needed
Set a dedicated name for the 5GHz wireless (wireless -> wireless options)
Eventually change the radio mode (if no 802.11b/g systems in your home) to "only 802.11n (5GHz) - only 802.11n (2.4GHz)" by holding down the option key *alt* while clicking on the drop down.
On your Mac
Disable (switch off) wireless
Enter system configuration -> network -> wireless
Uncheck "Ask to join new networks"
Enter advanced options and check that your wireless name is in the first position of the list. If not, drag it with the mouse to the first position.
Click apply
Join your wireless again and try to connect to the 5GHz name (SSID) because the 5GHz will improve the connection speed of your Mac remarkably.
Eventually you might change the settings on the Express too.
Check the location of the AP-Extreme.
It should NOT be placed: On the floor, in a corner, behind furniture, near metal objects, life high voltage wire or cordless phone bases.
It should be placed: As high as possible (up on a shelf or ceiling mounted) with a maximum line of sight to all stations, even thru walls.
If your home situation allows that, try to use the 5GHz band only. If you own a iPhone this must use the 2.4GHz radio.
Lupunus

Time Capsule-AirPort Express-WDS not working together

According to everything I've read here, I've configured this properly, but it doesn't seem to be working. If anyone can help me troubleshoot this I would greatly appreciate it.
I have a new Time Capsule acting as my main wireless base station; it has a manually-configured static IP address, is plugged into my Verizon FIOS router, and is set to distribute IP addresses over wireless using DHCP. I have it set to run a 5 GHz network in addition to the regular 2.4 GHz network. I have an older AirPort Express that I want to use to extend the range of the 2.4 GHz network (the Express can only do 802.11b/g, not 802.11n), in part because we have some older devices in the house that I don't want to slow down the 802.11n network, and in part because the 802.11b/g signal doesn't reach all parts of the house very strongly. So I told the Time Capsule to make its network extendable, told the AirPort Express to participate in a WDS network as a WDS relay, and entered the MAC address of the Time Capsule's 2.4GHz network as the WDS main. Result: flashing amber light on the AirPort Express, which no longer shows up in the AirPort Utility; I had to do a hard reset in order to get the Express back (and then it had to be reconfigured again, of course). At the moment I have it just joining my wireless network, and that works -- green light -- but of course doesn't allow the Express to extend the range of the wireless network.
What am I doing wrong here?

Before there was dual band, we always told users that if they used WDS, the entire network would revert to "g", even if the Time Capsule, AirPort Express, etc were capable of "n" performance.
Your findings seem to confirm that this happens with a dual band as well.
I think it's well worth it to get the AirPort Express 802.11n. Then you can reconfigure the Time Capsule back to "Create a wireless network" and check the box to "Allow this network to be extended"
The Express"n" would then be configured to "Extend a wireless network". I use this setup and would highly recommend it. There may be a slight bandwidth loss due to overhead, but the performance is light years ahead of WDS.
If you are using the same network name for both bands on the Time Capsule, then I believe by default the Express will extend the 2.4 GHz "n", "g" and "b" band. This makes sense for most users since 5 GHz signals do not travel well over distance or penetrate obstructions well.
IF...you want to extend the 5 GHz band, the only way that I know how to do this is click Wireless Network Options on the wireless setup page for the Time Capsule and enable the option to assign a different name for the 5 GHz network.
Then you will have to configure the Express to extend this specific 5 GHz network. I never had much luck extending 5 GHz, and I wanted my iPhone to be able to use the network across the house, so I went with the simpler one network name for both bands and extended the 2.4 GHz network.
If you have a "g" device joining the extended network, it may tend to slow the "n" devices down slightly...when the "g" device is active, but it won't drag everything down to "g" levels. When the "g" device is not active, "n" devices will run at "n" speeds.
BTW, the ethernet port on the AirPort Express is active when you configure it to "extend a wireless network". This can come in handy for hooking up DVD players, etc that need an internet connection for firmware updates and extra features.
Follow up....I tried a very quick reconfiguration of my dual band AirPort Extreme (same router that the Time Capsule users) and AirPort Express using the WDS arrangement and everything did indeed drop way down in speed and performance.
Post back if you have questions. Happy to help.
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AirPort Extreme and AirPort Time Capsule not working

So heres the situation: I have 1 airport extreme in the house and another in the office separate from the house. The cable modem connects to the aiport express in the house through ehternet. An ethernet chord goes from the Aiport Extreme from in the house to the office in the back yard.
Decided to update my airport extremes with the new tall ones. Bought the normal one for the house and got the Airport Extreme Time capsule for the office.
But nothing works. Reseted the device, unpluged the modems power and cables and still nothing ... just blinks yellow
I feel like the NEW Aiport Extremes are not talking to the modem ... theres some diconnection between the airports and the modem.
So there both sitting on my desk until i can figure out what the problem is.
The modem is provided from Time Warner, Los Angeles area. Its maybe 1.5 to 2 years old
Any thoughts or suggestions would be much apprecaited, thanks!

The cable modem remembers your old AirPort Extreme and it will not associate with the new AirPort Extreme until it....the modem....is completely reset to the point where it has forgotten your old AirPort Extreme.
Power off the modem completely by pulling the power plug from the back of the device
Leave it off at least 30 minutes. longer will not hurt at all.
Power up the new AirPort Extreme for a few minutes
Hold in the reset button on the Extreme firmly for 10 seconds and release
Allow a full minute for the AirPort Extreme to restart
Now power off the AirPort Extreme
After the modem power down period is done, connect an Ethernet cable from the modem to the WAN "O" Port on the AirPort Extreme
Power up the modem and let it run for 10 minutes by itself
Power up the AirPort Extreme and let it run a few minutes
Now try to set up the AirPort Extreme using AirPort Utility
Post back on your progress and we will get the new Time Capsule set up next.

Connecting aiport extreme and airport express via ethernet cable ?

Is it possible to connect an airport extreme to an airport express via ethernet cable, I ask because I want to expand the range of my wifi network to the basement of my house, the floors are really thick concrete so I installed some ethernet cable runs, I hope somebody can help me, thank you.

+How do I do it ? Do I connect the modem to the airport extreme and then run the ethernet cable from one of the extreme's ethernet ports to the express ethernet on the basememt and a second cable from another of the extreme's ethernet connectors to the express on the second floor+
Yes, this is exactly correct.
To configure each AirPort Express (AX)
Open AirPort Utility, click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab below the icons to name your device, assign a device password and adjust time zone settings. Give each Express a separate name so you can identify then easily.
Click the Wireless tab
Wireless Mode...Create a Wireless Network
Wireless Network Name...Exact same name as your AirPort Extreme network
Radio Mode 802.11n (802.11b/g compatible) if you want to use 2.4 GHz
Channel...Automatic
Wireless Security...Exact same setting as your AirPort Extreme network
Wireless Password....Exact same setting as your AirPort Extreme network
Click the Internet icon
Change the Connection Sharing setting at the bottom to "Off (Bridge Mode)"
Click Update at the lower right and the AirPort Express will restart in 20-30 seconds
I think it is easier to configure each AirPort Express with AirPort Utility by temporarily connecting it to your computer with a short ethernet cable. Once you have saved the configuration, you can move the Express to the location that you need.
Please post back on your progress.

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I've heard that airport extreme and airport express are wifi routers, not modems. if they are routers, they need to connect to my modem. Do they connect using a wire or wirelessly?

It must be connected to your modem with an Ethernet cable.

AirMac Extreme and Airport Express not working with Netgear N Router?

I've been using an AirMac Extreme (old model) as a wireless router, and Airport Express for it's airtunes functionality (conected to my Hi-Fi).
These used to work fine, and both would show up in my Airport Utility on my Macs.
I've now just upgraded to a 50MG broadband contract, and the engineer gave me a Network router as my old AirMac Extreme couldn't handle that bandwidth.
When I connected my AirMac Extreme to my Netgear router I then got conflicts, sometimes it wouldn't show up, and it really slowed down my wireless signal. As a result the contractor for my broadband recommended I disconnect my Air Mac Extreme from the router. Speeds went up for the internet, but now I can't get my airtunes to work.
What I want to know is can I just use my Netgear to transmit the broadband signal so I get maximum internet speeds, but then have my AirMac Extreme and Airport Express connected so that I can still listen to my itunes wirelessly?
Ideally I'd like this to all be set up so that I could be conected to the internet through the Netgear wirelessly and listen to my itunes through the Airport Express at the same time.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Airport Extreme + Airport Express + G5 Not working

Just recently upgraded from the old airport with the airport express to the airport extreme and airport express. All of our laptops (PC and Mac) are connected to the airport extreme network and the airport express has been set up to link to the airport extreme's wireless network. Both are showing green. However, when we plug the airport express into the G5 via ethernet we can't get the internet working. It does not recognize the airport express like it did previously with the old airport. Please help!

This may help:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145

How to Set Up Time Capsule With Airport Extreme and Airport Express

Just got a new 1TB Time Capsule. I want it to be the main base station for my network. I already have a network set up with an older Airport Extreme base station and an Airport Express to extend it. I am thinking that rather than setting up the Time Capsule to "join" the old network, the best approach is to disconnect the Airport Extreme and Airport Express and reset them. Then set up the Time Capsule as a brand new network and bring the reset Aiport Extreme and Express onto the new network as if my original network never existed.
Is that the right approach or am I complicating it? Can I just join the Time Capsule to the existing network and still make it the main base station for the network?

evelK wrote:
Just got a new 1TB Time Capsule. I want it to be the main base station for my network. I already have a network set up with an older Airport Extreme base station and an Airport Express to extend it. I am thinking that rather than setting up the Time Capsule to "join" the old network, the best approach is to disconnect the Airport Extreme and Airport Express and reset them. Then set up the Time Capsule as a brand new network and bring the reset Aiport Extreme and Express onto the new network as if my original network never existed.
Is that the right approach or am I complicating it? Can I just join the Time Capsule to the existing network and still make it the main base station for the network?
I'd first use AirPort Utility to "Save a Copy As" of your AirPort Extreme settings. Then disconnect it, connect the Time Capsule in its place, and use AirPort Utility's "Import" function to read those settings. (Both of those functions are under AirPort Utility's "File" menu.) You may have to adjust a few settings. Once you have the Time Capsule working as you want, you can reconfigure your AirPort Extreme unit as you wish.

Airport Extreme and Airport Express conflict and failure

I spent 2.5 hours on the phone with Apple and still could not get my Airport Extreme and Airport Express to function. My Apple TV failed as well:
* Connected AEX through Airport Utility to internet. Airport Utility replaced my old configuration on my LinkSystem router. Green light.
* Checked Apple TV. No connection available. Unplugged cable modem, waited 1 minute and tried again. Apple TV connected. No problem.
* Flashing amber light on Airport Express for Airtunes. Does not show up in wireless device list. I call Apple.
* Reset Express. Still no signal. Connect via Ethernet cable. Reconfigure. Green Light. Music works.
* Check internet connection, in order. Apple TV fails. No connection to server.
* Apple TV reset. No connection. No wireless network found.
* Reset Airport Express. Reconfigure channel specifications. No connection with ATV or Airport Express.
* Disconnect Airport Express. Reconfigure. With ATV disconnected I get Airport Express back. Green light but this time no music. Remote speakers appear on itunes, but no music is transmitted.
* Did a total wireless reset on Extreme, and now both Express and ATV are not working.
Frustrated and dissapointed I disconnected everything put back my 5 year old Linksys router and within 15 seconds both ATV and Airport Express worked flawlessly.
How can this happen? What is wrong with this device? It is my second one in a week. The first one made no wireless connection to my Mac at all.
After sulking for hours I tried again, this time leaving the Express out of the equation and reconfiguring the ATV to take over airtunes. After a reset it did fine. Now I have a pure n signal running at 5hz. ATV works again. So does internet.
Any suggestions? Is there something I did not try?
I tried the Firewall trick, the accept all incoming connections trick, the disabling of the iv6 trick, the join a wireless connection trick, and everything else Apple Care could think of.

Maybe I was not clear enough on my post and configurations,
I had a Linksys before I purchased the airport extreme. My airport express joined the Linksys network for the purpose of airtunes. This worked flawlessly from day one.
Airport Extreme asked in the utility to take over an existing network or replace a router. If you chose this option it adopts all passwords, wpa/2 configurations for security and such.
I chose this option thinking that since it is an apple product it would take over everything and work. My airport express had origianlly been set to join my old Linksys network. Since the airport extreme took over this configuration it should work.
Apple stated many times that there seemed to be a conflict and kept asking me about the placement of my airport extreme.
My Linksys was never part of a bridge or a network within a network. It was removed before the Extreme was ever turned on.
After all the problems and hours of trying with Apple, i find it funny that all I had to do to restore eveything was plug my old Linksys back in and conect all the cables, and bam....it worked.
So what is wrong with the airport extreme, or is there something wrong with itunes 8 and its interface with the express? For whatever reason the extreme cannot make the express and my ATV work at the same time.

Airport Extreme and Airport Express and Slingbox (and ProxySTA) = confused

I have an Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS) acting as a router behind an Actiontec modem (in bridge mode) on Verizon in the east coast.
I can connect my Slingbox Solo to the AEBS with an ethernet cable and set everything up to see video off the internet in another city - fine.
But I really would like to have my Airport Express connect to my AEBS as a wireless bridge (using ProxySTA) with my slingbox connected to my Airport Express through a ethernet cable (they are in a different room from the AEBS).
I've confirmed both my AEBS and Airport Express are the latest models, n-capable, etc.
I think I've followed all the instructions correctly for setting up the wireless bridge (I followed these instructions: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2638404&start=15&tstart=0)
I have also done port forwarding of the Slingbox Solo in AEBS (using the method discussed at the bottom of this page: http://forums.dealmac.com/read.php?4,2774962)
Anyway the problem is that the slingbox is not working the same as when I had it connected to the AEBS directly by cable - the slingbox is "recognized", and is listed in AEBS's client list, but still regular video signals aren't coming through.
(Please don't be too thrown off by the fact that this is a slingbox; the advice I'm looking for could apply to anything being connected, like an Xbox, a playstation, etc. )
I've tried a few obvious things like hard re-sets of both Airports and the slingbox to no avail.
I have a sense that the problem may have something to do with my port-forwarding and/or other settings -- I'm totally a babe in the woods here.
There are a few issues I'm confused about, and would appreciate clarification on:
For the port-forwarding ip address, was it correct of me to use the "DHCP reservation" ip address I had setup in AEBS for the slingbox?
For the Airport Express settings, should I have selected the "join network" or the "extend network" option (I've read conflicting advice about this)?
I configured the port-forwarding of the slingbox ip address before setting up the wireless bridge configuration. What is the interplay between these 2? Do the wireless bridge settings need to be integrated into the port-forwarding settings in some way? Should the wireless bridge ip address be port-forwarded in addition to the slingbox ip address?
I have come across this discussion (second from last post): http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=84151&highlight=proxysta which introduced these new questions to me - how should I set up my settings at AEBS ->Internet->NAT? Should I enable default host? enable NAT port mapping? what should be filled in if using Enable default host?
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But I really would like to have my Airport Express connect to my AEBS as a wireless bridge (using ProxySTA) with my slingbox connected to my Airport Express through a ethernet cable (they are in a different room from the AEBS).
It's not documented in Apple's user guide, but the only way to use ProxySTA is configure the AirPort Express to "join" a wireless network and "enable ethernet clients" during setup.
The Express will not provide any additional wireless coverage when it is configured to "join". It simply receives a wireless signal from your main router and provides a signal at the ethernet port. In effect, it becomes another LAN port on your main router supported by a wireless connection. (You won't get ethernet speeds...you'll get wireless speeds).
The main advantage of setting the AirPort Express up this way is that it provides better bandwidth performance.
If you use the "extend a wireless network" setup, the Express provides more wireless coverage in the area where it is located AND the ethernet port is also enabled in this configuration. But, there is some bandwidth loss providing the additional wireless coverage.
So, it's a compromise to choose which setup will provide you with the best performance. If you don't need the additional wireless coverage from the Express, the "join" setup would be the best choice, performance wise.
If you have the Express setup to "extend" now, you can perform a simple test to see if you got the configuration right. Just plug in a laptop to the ethernet port on the Express, turn off the wireless on the laptop, and see if you get an internet connection when you open your browser.
If you do, the configuration is correct. If you don't, something is not right with the configuration of the Express.
Sorry, I can't help on the port forwarding questions. That really should be another post.

How does one sync the new time capsule with the old airport extreme and airport express in order to extend range?

How does one sync the new time capsule with the old airport extreme and airport express in order to extend range?

Thanks for the additional information.
Unfortunately, the AirPort Utility application in the Lion and Mountain Lion operating systems, which is used to configure the new Time Capsule does not support the older versions of the products that you have.
Even if it did, there are no settings on the older AirPorts to "Extend a wireless network", so they are not compatible with the new Time Capsule if you intend to extend the network only using wireless connections.
If you have the ability to connect each AirPort to the Time Capsule using a permanent wired Ethernet cable connection, it might be possible to use a complicated workaround to install an older version of AirPort Utility to configure the older AirPorts to work with the new Time Capsule.
If you have another Mac there that is using the Leopard or Snow Leoapard operating system, things would likely be simpler. I have not done this type of procedure to mix a new Time Capsule with older AirPorts, so I would not be able to say whether this would work or not.

Hi, The Airport Express does not work with iOS 7.0.4, I appreciate your help to resolve this event. Thank you,

Hi, The Airport Express does not work with iOS 7.0.4, I appreciate your help to resolve this event. Thank you,

Please locate the model number of the AirPort Express and post back that information.
The model number is located on the side of the AirPort Express. It begins with an "A" followed by four numbers.
We are not sure what you mean by "does not work". Does this mean that the AirPort Express worked at one time and has just recently stopped working?
Have you installed a newer operating system on your iOS device recently?
Or, is this a new AirPort Express that you are trying to configure for the first time?
If yes, what service will the AirPort Express perform on your network?
Please remember that we cannot see your network, so we only know as much about your problem as you can tell us.

Difference between Airport Extreme and Airport Express

What is the difference between Airport Extreme and Airport Express? My son is home from college and would like to use his Macbook for an online class. So I need a wireless router and I would also like to be able to play our iTunes over multiple speaker locations with my home stereo. Which one of these could accomplish this. Thanks in advance.

If you can use just one device to both set up a WiFi network and connect to your stereo you have to use an Airport Express. If you have to use separate devices, for instance because your internet connection device and your stereo are not in the same location, you have to use an Express to stream to and you can use either an Express or an Extreme to set up the WiFi.
By the way you have to use an Express for each stereo you would like to connect.

HT4628 Intermittent reception when streaming music via Airport Extreme and Airport Express to powered speakers. Is this a problem with the Extreme?

i get intermittent reception when I stream music from I Tunes via Airport Extreme and Airport Express to powered speakers. I Tunes continues to play uninterupted on the Mac. The problem does not lie with the Express as it occurs on both of my 2 Express at the same time. is this a problem with the Extreme?

Well, repying to my own post... Might have found the solution: I tried to do the same with a Macbook Pro 2010 using the very same setup. And it worked perfectly! No freeze, no nothing.
One explanation I see:
my iMac is dating back to May 2007, a Core 2 Duo 2,16Ghz with 2 Go of RAM.
So the computer's characteristics (or the Wifi component or the combination of all of this) might be not robust enough to allow streaming to those 2 devices...
Anyone's got anything to add?

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