Ale question

hello everybody,
what is difference between executable programs and change pointers in ale?
and also difference between change pointers and message control?
regards
uday

change pointers it is concept to triggering idocs when there is a change in Master Data<In some case transactional data too> .
Executable programs in ALE context, you can trigger idoc using them.
Message Control is to identify the message

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ALE: how do I use dependent distribution for customer and vendor addresses?

Hello SDN'ers
Hopefully someone can help me with an ALE question.
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Not all customers and vendors are required in AFS, so we have various filters set up in the Retail distribution model (BD64).
However with the filters in place, addresses were still being distributed for customers and vendors that had been filtered out.
To try and avoid this for vendors, we created a filter group for AddressOrg.SaveReplica in receiver determination. In the filter group we selected Dependent Distribution for CREMAS (Address owner object).
This works perfectly for vendors - vendor addresses are now only distributed if the vendor itself is distributed.
However I've now discovered it is preventing any customer addresses from being sent! I was surprised about this: I expected CREMAS dependency to only affect vendor addresses. Can someone tell me:
- is this how dependent distribution is designed to work? In which case can anyone offer any suffestions to achieve the filtering some other way?
- or are we doing something wrong to be getting this result?
Thanks for any help!
regards, Roger

Hi all,
as Robert suggested, I've written an exit to get round this, although I'm surprised I should need to!
What I did was to code an enhancement in function group BDBF, at the start of subroutine COMPUTE_LOGIC_EXPRESSION.
* In the case of addresses, dependencies should only be applied for the appropriate type of address
data: lwa_tbd14 type tbd14.
if P_MODEL_DATA-FTYPE = C_FTYPE_DEPENDENCY_FROM_MESTYP.
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*     (Table is buffered on DB)
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        into lwa_tbd14
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hi experts,
i am new to these and i want know that in real time how can ale used what do abaper has to do, just creating 1. logical systems....
yet last sending data and receiving data.
my question is that how could a client use this these steps please
could you/anyone clarify my critical doubt please.
please help me.
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Hi
ABAP Consultants are responsible for the below ALE tasks.
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2.Creating Partner profiles
3.Creating Ports
4.Creating Distribution Model
5.Defining RFC Destinations
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9.Reprocessing of the failed IDocs both at the inbound and Outbound Side.
10.Workflow Configuration related to ALE.
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Hello Experts,
I have a few questions regarding ALE Configuration, help appreciated
1) Is it necessary to create user for ALE transfer in both sender and receiver system ?
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I need some help regarding the ALE configurations.
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Moderator message: please search for available information/documentation, do not ask interview-type questions.
Edited by: Thomas Zloch on Apr 19, 2011 7:01 PM

hi,
ALE/ IDOC
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
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My aim is to send via ALE sales orders when created with transaction VA01 or when modified with transaction VA02.
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http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDISC/CAEDISCAP_STC.pdf
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ALE using PULL Approach question

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Hi,
While doing the ale config as per blog...
/people/swaroopa.vishwanath/blog/2007/01/22/ale-configuration-for-pushing-idocs-from-sap-to-xi
all steps worked fine...except the step where we select model view and distribute....
I get this message...
Communication error occurred
Name or password is incorrect(repeat logon)..
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Yes. That is correct.
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regards
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
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My client has a requirement for outbound HR interface. The interface basically transfers IDocs from R/3 to XI and from XI to an ftp location A. But the client also want an option to simulate the interface. For the simulation run of the interface, it should transfer IDocs from R/3 to XI and from XI to an ftp location B. In this regard, I wanted to know if there is any elegant solution to work this issue without using different IDoc types for actual and simulation run. The ALE distribution model (R/3->XI) will be same for both the cases but I want to know if there is any simple way that XI could figure out between actual and simulation run.
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Hi,
I will give the following few steps
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save and goback.
2) Tcode BD50---> check the MATMAS check box save and comeback.
3) Tcode BD51---> goto IDOC_INPUT_MATMAS01 select the checkbox save and comeback.
4) Tcode BD52---> give message type : matmas press ok button.
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save & come back.
5) 5) go to Tcode MM02 select one material and try to change the description and save it
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While doing the ale config as per blog...
/people/swaroopa.vishwanath/blog/2007/01/22/ale-configuration-for-pushing-idocs-from-sap-to-xi
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There are no standard material numbers avaiable in SAP. All u need to do it to create in the TC MM01 and u can refer to the table MARA and the material number field is MATNR.
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