Apache plug-in won't load balance requests evenly on cluster

I can't seem to get the Apache plug-in to actually do round-robin load balancing
of HTTP
requests. It does random-robin, as I like to call it, since the plug-in will usually
hit all the
servers in the cluster but in a random fashion.
I've got three managed servers:
192.168.1.5:8001 (WL6 on Linux) 192.168.1.2:8001 (WL6 on Linux) 192.168.1.7:8001
(WL6 on Linux)
Admin server on 192.168.1.7:7000 (WL6 on W2k)
My Apache server is 1.3.9 (RedHat SSL) on 192.168.1.52.
The log file for each servers has something like this:
####<Apr 19, 2001 1:18:54 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster> <neptune> <cluster1server1>
<main> <system> <> <000102> <Joined cluster cluster1 at address 225.0.0.5 on port
8001>
####<Apr 19, 2001 1:19:31 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster> <neptune> <cluster1server1>
<ExecuteThread: '9' for queue: 'default'> <> <> <000127> <Adding
3773576126129840579S:192.168.1.2:[8001,8001,7002,7002,8001,7002,-1]:192.168.1.52
to the cluster> ####<Apr 19, 2001 1:19:31 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster> <neptune>
<cluster1server1> <ExecuteThread: '11' for queue: 'default'> <> <> <000127> <Adding
-6393447100509727955S:192.168.1.5:[8001,8001,7002,7002,8001,7002,-1]:192.168.1.52
to the cluster>
So I believe I have correctly created a cluster, although I did not bother to
assign
replication groups for HTTP session replication (yet).
The Apache debug output indicates it knows about all three servers and I can see
it
doing the "random-robin" load balancing. Here is the output:
Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Initializing lastIndex=2 for a list of length=3 Thu Apr
19
00:20:53 2001 Init Srvr# [1] = [192.168.1.2:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272
numSk ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Init Srvr# [2] = [192.168.1.5:8001]
load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272 numSk ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001
Init Srvr# [3] = [192.168.1.7:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272 numSk
ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 INFO: SSL is not configured Thu Apr 19
00:20:53 2001 Now trying whatever is on the list; ci->canUseSrvrList = 1 Thu Apr
19
00:20:53 2001 INFO: New NON-SSL URL Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 general list: trying
connect to '192.168.1.7'/8001 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Connected to 192.168.1.7:8001
Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 INFO: sysSend 320 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 INFO:
Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 parsed all
headers
OK Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 Initializing lastIndex=1 for a list of length=3 Thu
Apr 19
00:21:06 2001 ###Response### : Srvr# [1] = [192.168.1.5:8001] load=1077584792
isGood=1077 546628 numSkip=1077546628 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 ###Response###
: Srvr# [2] = [192.168.1.2:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077 546628
numSkip=1077546628 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 ###Response### : Srvr# [3] =
[192.168.1.7:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077 546628 numSkip=1077546628 Thu Apr
19 00:21:06 2001 INFO: Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
Basically, the lastIndex=XXX appears to be random. It may do round-robin for 4
or 5
connections but then always it resorts to randomly directing new connections.
This is what the configuration looks like using the plug-in's
/weblogic?__WebLogicBridgeConfig URL:
Weblogic Apache Bridge Configuration parameters:
WebLogic Cluster List:
1.Host: '192.168.1.2' Port: 8001 Primary
General Server List:
1.Host: '192.168.1.2' Port: 8001
2.Host: '192.168.1.5' Port: 8001
3.Host: '192.168.1.7' Port: 8001
DefaultFileName: ''
PathTrim: '/weblogic'
PathPrepend: '' ConnectTimeoutSecs:
'10' ConnectRetrySecs: '2'
HungServerRecoverSecs: '300'
MaxPostSize: '0'
StatPath: false
CookieName: JSESSIONID
Idempotent:
ON FileCaching:
ON ErrorPage: ''
DisableCookie2Server: OFF
Can someone please help to shed some light on this? I would be really grateful,
thanks!
Jeff

Right - it means that the only configuration which can do perfect round-robin is a
single plugin (non-Apache, or single-process Apache) - all others essentially do random
(sort of, but it can skew test results during first N requests).
Robert Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
Dimitri,
The way Apache works is that is spawns a bunch of child processes and the parent process
that listens on the port delegates the processing of each request to one of the child
processes. This means that the load-balancing dome by the plugin before the session ID is
assigned does not do perfect round-robining because there are multiple copies of the plugin
loaded in the multiple child processes. This situation is similar to the one you would get
by running multiple proxy servers on different machines with the NES/iPlanet and IIS
plugins.
As I pointed out in my response to Jeff, attempting to address this problem with IPC
machanisms would only solve the single machine problem and most people deploy multiple
proxy servers to avoid a single point of failure...
Hope this helps,
Robert
Dimitri Rakitine wrote:
Hrm. This is strange - I thought that all the information nesessary for a
'sticky' load-balancing (primary/secondary) is contained in the cookie/session info,
so, the particular plug-in implementation should not make any difference. For
load-balancing - statistically, given large enough sampling base, Apache plug-in
should perform just a well as NS one (unless apache is somehow misconfigured and
calls fork() for each new request).
Jeff Calog <[email protected]> wrote:
Robert,
Thanks for the sanity reply, you are definitely right. I used Netscape 3.0 on
Win2k and it did perfect round-robin load balancing to my servers.
<raving>
BEA - ARE YOU LISTENING? STOP TELLING PEOPLE YOUR APACHE PLUG-IN IS A VIABLE
LOAD BALANCING SOLUTION! It's worthless for load balancing!
</raving>
In some tests, as many as 90% of my connections/requests would be sent to a single
server. There should be something in the release notes like "By the way, the
Apache plug-in is only advertised as doing round-robin load balancing, in reality
it doesn't work worth a darn".
I'm surprised they don't used shared memory or some other technique (pipes, sockets,
signals, writing to /tmp, anything) for interprocess communication to fix that.
Jeff
Robert Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, the problem lies in the fact that Apache uses multiple processes
instead of
multiple threads to process requests. Therefore, you end up with multiple
processes all
with the WebLogic plugin loaded into them (and they cannot see one another)...
Hopefully, Apache 2.0 when it comes out will allow the plugin to do a
better job...
Jeff Calog wrote:
I can't seem to get the Apache plug-in to actually do round-robin loadbalancing
of HTTP
requests. It does random-robin, as I like to call it, since the plug-inwill usually
hit all the
servers in the cluster but in a random fashion.
I've got three managed servers:
192.168.1.5:8001 (WL6 on Linux) 192.168.1.2:8001 (WL6 on Linux) 192.168.1.7:8001
(WL6 on Linux)
Admin server on 192.168.1.7:7000 (WL6 on W2k)
My Apache server is 1.3.9 (RedHat SSL) on 192.168.1.52.
The log file for each servers has something like this:
####<Apr 19, 2001 1:18:54 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster> <neptune> <cluster1server1>
<main> <system> <> <000102> <Joined cluster cluster1 at address 225.0.0.5on port
8001>
####<Apr 19, 2001 1:19:31 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster> <neptune> <cluster1server1>
<ExecuteThread: '9' for queue: 'default'> <> <> <000127> <Adding
3773576126129840579S:192.168.1.2:[8001,8001,7002,7002,8001,7002,-1]:192.168.1.52
to the cluster> ####<Apr 19, 2001 1:19:31 AM MDT> <Info> <Cluster><neptune>
<cluster1server1> <ExecuteThread: '11' for queue: 'default'> <> <><000127> <Adding
-6393447100509727955S:192.168.1.5:[8001,8001,7002,7002,8001,7002,-1]:192.168.1.52
to the cluster>
So I believe I have correctly created a cluster, although I did notbother to
assign
replication groups for HTTP session replication (yet).
The Apache debug output indicates it knows about all three serversand I can see
it
doing the "random-robin" load balancing. Here is the output:
Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Initializing lastIndex=2 for a list of length=3Thu Apr
19
00:20:53 2001 Init Srvr# [1] = [192.168.1.2:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272
numSk ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Init Srvr# [2] = [192.168.1.5:8001]
load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272 numSk ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:532001
Init Srvr# [3] = [192.168.1.7:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077590272numSk
ip=134940256 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 INFO: SSL is not configured ThuApr 19
00:20:53 2001 Now trying whatever is on the list; ci->canUseSrvrList= 1 Thu Apr
19
00:20:53 2001 INFO: New NON-SSL URL Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 generallist: trying
connect to '192.168.1.7'/8001 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 Connected to192.168.1.7:8001
Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001 INFO: sysSend 320 Thu Apr 19 00:20:53 2001INFO:
Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001parsed all
headers
OK Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 Initializing lastIndex=1 for a list oflength=3 Thu
Apr 19
00:21:06 2001 ###Response### : Srvr# [1] = [192.168.1.5:8001] load=1077584792
isGood=1077 546628 numSkip=1077546628 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 ###Response###
: Srvr# [2] = [192.168.1.2:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077 546628
numSkip=1077546628 Thu Apr 19 00:21:06 2001 ###Response### : Srvr#[3] =
[192.168.1.7:8001] load=1077584792 isGood=1077 546628 numSkip=1077546628Thu Apr
19 00:21:06 2001 INFO: Reader::fill(): first=0 last=0 toRead=4096
Basically, the lastIndex=XXX appears to be random. It may do round-robinfor 4
or 5
connections but then always it resorts to randomly directing new connections.
This is what the configuration looks like using the plug-in's
/weblogic?__WebLogicBridgeConfig URL:
Weblogic Apache Bridge Configuration parameters:
WebLogic Cluster List:
1.Host: '192.168.1.2' Port: 8001 Primary
General Server List:
1.Host: '192.168.1.2' Port: 8001
2.Host: '192.168.1.5' Port: 8001
3.Host: '192.168.1.7' Port: 8001
DefaultFileName: ''
PathTrim: '/weblogic'
PathPrepend: '' ConnectTimeoutSecs:
'10' ConnectRetrySecs: '2'
HungServerRecoverSecs: '300'
MaxPostSize: '0'
StatPath: false
CookieName: JSESSIONID
Idempotent:
ON FileCaching:
ON ErrorPage: ''
DisableCookie2Server: OFF
Can someone please help to shed some light on this? I would be reallygrateful,
thanks!
Jeff
Dimitri--
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