Aperture and File Vault

I am using Aperture and File Vault on the same Lion OS X system. I cannot open Aperture and get an Aperture window and see if my precious and valuable photos did, actually, get captured by Aperture before I deleted the photos from my SD Card.
The spinning beach ball has run for days upon days. I have restarted. I have nothing else running in the background. I just let Aperture run overnight. I get the spinning beach ball forever. I do not ever see the Aperture window or view the recently uploaded precious and valuable photos.
What can I do? It will not be easy to withdraw File Vault because my hard drive is well-over half full.
I am re-rating this app as "hate it" on 3/12/2012. A year earlier I had rated it "don't like it." So, I have dropped the rating from two stars--seriously bad--to one star--cannot be worse.
I have encrypted the hard drive File Vault in system preferences. Apparently, this creates an over-whelming problem with Aperture because File Vault must encrypt and unencrypt the Aperture library which is presumably huge. The Aperture library is presumably well over 1 GB because the collection of all the photos and videos in your whole life add up. Apple combines them all-together into one ginormous file. In my case, the Aperture library is over 30 GB.
So, the problem is, at least, recently: I took a lot of photos in a recent travel adventure. I uploaded them to Aperture. Then I deleted the photos off the SD card. Now, Aperture will not load. It's been several days of trying, and I still don't know if I have lost my precious photos of the adventure with my son.
I am beyond angry.
I have stuck by Apple with Aperture since 1.1. I didn't like 1.1. I didn't like 2.0. I have absolutely hated 3.0. Even if you did come out with an amazing product, I would likely not purchase it again. I am so thoroughly disappointed and now enraged.

Your anger is understandable (and not something anyone here can help you with).
Your problem seems much more likely to come from File Vault than from Aperture. Lots of users use Aperture all the time (with large Libraries) with few problems (most of which are pretty easily resolved). For File Vault problems, you might get a more useful response in the Lion forum.
Once you do get things resolved, I strongly suggest finding a program other than Aperture. V. 1.1 came out in 2006. Six years is a _long_ time to use software that you don't like.

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Dear Mac Experts:
I know that there are many pages of information about using, remembering and managing passwords. I have read most of them.I know the passwords and File Vault was not on. I am working at someone's home on their computer and running their business. The computer is running MAC 10.5.8 and I don't know if it can be updated. The computer had an Admin account and no user accounts. I tried to change this so the compuer would be secure but my client did not want to.    When I left yesterday the computer was fine. When I came in today there were a number of apps hanging. I forced quit Firefox and some other apps and logged out an shut down the computer. When I tried to log into the Admin Account which is the main user account I got the error messages below:
Your FileVault-protected home folder did not open and needs to be repaired.
click ok to repair the folder and continue logging in.
I clicked ok
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Clicked OK
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   Checked that FileVault was turned off.
After reading all of your comments and suggestions for the last 2 hours my head is spinning.
I don't know unix or type commands. I don't know where the install discs are.
As the new Admin I went into the keychain files and tried to verify and repair the original Admin's info.
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Verification started
Checking keychain configuration for Susan F (user ID=501)
Home directory is /Users/suero
Checked login keychain
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Checked password for ~/Library/Keychains/login.keychain
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The machine is backed up onto a lacie external hard drive every hour.
In addition, while I was poking around I found the following:
com.apple.kerberos.kdc   certificate
not trusted
com.apple.systemdefault certificate
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Could there be some malware at work? What can I do to get her files, home directory and everything back?
Thank you in advance for your patience with an old OS and a MAC user who does't feel comfortable mucking around under the hood.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy,
I don't suspect Malware yet, Id guess Disk corruption or failing Hard Drive with Files not found.
Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.

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I now recently bought the time Capsule and found out that the Time Machine doesn't go well with the File Vault turned on. It does back up the home folder only when logged out and I don't get the hourly backups for single files either.
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....so, it seems to work now.
I did eventually go through the routine of backing up my home folder manually on the TC, then I created a new account, copied everything back, deleted the old account, and so on, as described in the link above.
I did not turn on the File Vault, activated TM and backed the whole lot up via Ethernet, switched back to wireless and TM seems to do the trick now.
I have now access to single folders and files when I go back in time in TM, instead of the whole backup only.
This seems to be the only way TM & TC are working properly, why is this conflict between File Vault and TM nowhere mentioned ?

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Time Machine and File Vault - How does it REALLY work?

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infrid wrote: We shouldn't accept this as a price we pay for using other operating system features. Gepeto is quite right : it's unnacceptable, and Apple should sort it out.
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