Aperture Marks RAW as JPEG

I finally have some time on my hands to go through and clean up some old projects in Aperture. I started digging into a project from 2008 and noticed that the RAWs and JPEGs had seperated from each other for about half of the images (they all came from the same memory card and were imported at the same time). From what I have read, recombining them is a real pain and probably not worth it. But the issue that does bother me, for a lot of the seperated RAWs and JPEGs, Aperture has labeled them both as JPEG in the top of the "Info" pane when one of the images clearly has a ".nef" in the file name. I am at a total loss about how to rectify this issue. Any ideas would be amazing!
Thanks!

Try and export as original on one of them which is marked wrong and see what it exports as. You can try exporting them all as Originals and re-import them as pairs as long as they are the same name...different extensions of course.

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