App-V Streaming in SCCM 2012 - High Availability Possible?
Hello All,
Background:
I'm in the process of designing an SCCM 2012 R2 environment, and one of the things that needs planning for is App-V.
Currently the client uses App-V 4.5 management servers with a mixture of 4.5 and 4.6 apps so I've been told. There are 2 servers and they are load balanced, I think the SQL server used is clustered. I need to bring this App-V environment into SCCM 2012 R2,
and as such I am concerned about High availability. (I'm also aware of compatibility of app v packages but this is beside the point)
SCCM will manage around 7000 workstations, and up to 20,000 users all in all (obviously not at once). The majority of users use any machine, they do not have dedicated ones. The hierarchy will consist of one standalone primary site with SQL on box and I will
be configuring multiple distribution points and management points.
Question:
It is my understanding that Management Points cache policies, and distribution points obviously have all the data cached so to speak. Therefore, if a user is already assigned to a group which is assigned to particular streamed applications - if connection was
lost to the site database server, and they logged onto a new machine, would they still be able to run those streamed applications? Or would the Site database going down break this?
Thanks
Stefan
Yeah that's a good point Torsten, Thanks - this is what I was unclear on and wanted clarification on. Was happy with the answer but thinking about it now you have said that, I dont see how that can work either...
If im getting it right now, it would be ok if someone has already logged onto the machine, as the profile would have already been populated with the virtual application information pulled down after the client had run the evaluation and MP had retreived
the information from the site DB when it was previously online - in that case the application would still work (and be visible) as the client has previoulsy known about it and clicking it can still stream it from the DB.
But in the case of a new login, are we saying that the MP does not cache policies to the extent that it would know that user would be assigned a particular application - it would have to go back to the site DB for this information - which would be unavaliable
and therefore would break it?
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Transaction Log Truncate not working on Sql Server 2012 High Availability Groups
Hi Everyone
Firstly I have tried to search the forum for similar issues but can't seem to find any that match our situation.
We have a SQL Server 2012 High Availability Group with 2 Nodes
Node 1 = Primary
Node 2 = Secondary
Backup Schedule as follows
Full Database Backup @ 00:00
Transaction Log Backup every 30 minutes from 00:30:00 till 23:59:59.
These backups are run by Maintenance Jobs, but we have also tried doing direct backups in SSMS using Backup Database and Backup Log commands.
Before we configured the High Availability group the transaction log backups worked fine.
After we configured the High Availability group we performed a Full Backup and the T-Log schedule did the T-Log backup. The 1st T-log backup truncated the log (Used space Decreased) as expected.
However subsequent T-Log backups do not truncate the T-Log.
This happens both in our acceptance and Live environments. This also happens when running the backups as a Backup operator and sysadmin, this does not seem to be a permissions issue at all.
We have tried running the Backup on the Primary and Secondary Replica.
What about High Availability groups could stop Transaction Log Backups from not truncating the log?
Thanks
JamesHi Sean
Thank you for your reply, please see the output of the sys.databases query below, and some others which you may find usefull.
Query: select database_id,recovery_model_desc, log_reuse_wait, log_reuse_wait_desc from sys.databases
where database_id = 5
Result: database_id recovery_model_desc log_reuse_wait log_reuse_wait_desc
5
FULL 0
NOTHING
I also ran the following
select database_id, truncation_lsn, last_received_lsn, last_commit_lsn, last_hardened_lsn, last_redone_lsn,*
from sys.dm_hadr_database_replica_states
go
database_id
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last_commit_lsn
last_hardened_lsn
last_redone_lsn
database_id
group_id
replica_id
group_database_id
is_local
synchronization_state
synchronization_state_desc
is_commit_participant
synchronization_health
synchronization_health_desc
database_state
database_state_desc
is_suspended
suspend_reason
suspend_reason_desc
recovery_lsn
truncation_lsn
last_sent_lsn
last_sent_time
last_received_lsn
last_received_time
last_hardened_lsn
last_hardened_time
last_redone_lsn
last_redone_time
log_send_queue_size
log_send_rate
redo_queue_size
redo_rate
filestream_send_rate
end_of_log_lsn
last_commit_lsn
last_commit_time
low_water_mark_for_ghosts
5
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5
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0581E17A-6B7B-4B8F-9288-BF765BFBCE77
0
2
SYNCHRONIZED
1
2
HEALTHY
NULL
NULL
0
NULL
NULL
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1
41863
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41863
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41863
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41863
0
25541
0
84404
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41863
441019861
5
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NULL
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NULL
5
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83B9F00E-D63F-4AC0-98FC-35E48FFA2C6F
0581E17A-6B7B-4B8F-9288-BF765BFBCE77
1
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1
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HEALTHY
0
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NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
NULL
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441019861
And
dbcc loginfo
go
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FSeqNo
Status
Parity
CreateLSN
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2
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James -
Hi,
I heard some promote use of "Terminal Services(RDS)", rather than App-V application with SCCM 2012 even if you have SCCM licens. The reason you dont need to repackage\test the application on an client OS...
I don't agree and I have not Heard this Before, just that you use TS for some scenario.
Or is it more likely that "Terminal Services(RDS)", take over the applikation administration?
/SaiTechSurely this all depends on your environment. There's nothing wrong with creating RemoteApps to push to client devices. Maybe you have an environment where RDS is widely used.
Why not leverage both solutions and target App-V's at RDS servers and then create App-V based RemoteApps that users can run at home as part of a home working solution via RDWeb.
Creating apps via RDS will be an admin overhead yes but then so is creating App-V packages in SCCM.
I don't agree with the arguement re: 'you dont need to repackage\test the application on an client OS...' as
App-V allows you to run on multple O/S types.
To be honest both technologies have their pros and cons.
Cheers
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App-V 5.0 Streaming over SCCM 2012 SP1 - High Availability / Load Balancig
Hello Anybody,
the default App-V 5.0 Streaming (SharedContentStoreMode = on) Deployment over SCCM belongs to a HTTP-Streaming over http:\\SCCM-Server\... . The whole content flows from SCCM to the App-V-Client. Is it possible to create there a high availability solution?
Yes, we can set a second distribution point. But in th App-V-Client are always only one Distribution Source.
Is it possible to set there an clustered adress of an other IIS? Is it possible to change the publishing Distribution Source with an SMB-Path to File-Cluster? Is there a trick with Source-Root-Parameter in App-V-Client? Or are ther anything else to create
a high availibility App-V-Streaming-Solution?
Yes, with App-V-Management-Server there is a high availability solution. - But we have only SCCM-Infrastruktur for App-V-Distribution.
Thank you, best regards
DanielDaniel, do you found solution?
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Hyper-V 2012 High Availability using Windows Server 2012 File Server Storage
Hi Guys,
Need your expertise regarding hyper-v high availability. We setup 2 hyper-v 2012 host in our infra for our domain consolidation project. Unfortunately, we don't have hardware storage that is said to be a requirement that we can use to create a failover cluster
for hyper-v host to implement HA. Here's the setup:
Host1
HP Proliant L380 G7
Windows Server 2012 Std
Hyper-V role, Failover Cluster Manager and File and Storage Services installed
Host2
Dell PowerEdge 2950
Windows Server 2012 Std
Hyper-V role, Failover Cluster Manager and File and Storage Services installed
Storage
Dell PowerEdge 6800
Windows Server 2012 Std
File and Storage Services installed
I'm able to configure the new feature about Shared Nothing Live Migration - i'm able to move VM's back and fort between my hosts without storage. But this is planned and proactive approach. My concern is to have my hyper-v host to become highly available in
the event of system failure. If my host1 dies, the VMs should go/move to host2 and vice versa. In setting this up, i believe i need to enable the failover clustering between my hyper-v hosts which i already did but upon validation, it says "No disks
were found on which to perform cluster validation tests." Is it possible to cluster it using just a regular windows file server? I've read about SMB 3.0 and i've configured it as well i'm able to save VMs on my file server, but i don't think that my hyper-v
hosts are already highly available.
Any feedback and suggestions or recommendation is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!Hi Guys,
Need your expertise regarding hyper-v high availability. We setup 2 hyper-v 2012 host in our infra for our domain consolidation project. Unfortunately, we don't have hardware storage that is said to be a requirement that we can use to create a failover cluster
for hyper-v host to implement HA. Here's the setup:
Host1
HP Proliant L380 G7
Windows Server 2012 Std
Hyper-V role, Failover Cluster Manager and File and Storage Services installed
Host2
Dell PowerEdge 2950
Windows Server 2012 Std
Hyper-V role, Failover Cluster Manager and File and Storage Services installed
Storage
Dell PowerEdge 6800
Windows Server 2012 Std
File and Storage Services installed
I'm able to configure the new feature about Shared Nothing Live Migration - i'm able to move VM's back and fort between my hosts without storage. But this is planned and proactive approach. My concern is to have my hyper-v host to become highly available in
the event of system failure. If my host1 dies, the VMs should go/move to host2 and vice versa. In setting this up, i believe i need to enable the failover clustering between my hyper-v hosts which i already did but upon validation, it says "No disks were
found on which to perform cluster validation tests." Is it possible to cluster it using just a regular windows file server? I've read about SMB 3.0 and i've configured it as well i'm able to save VMs on my file server, but i don't think that my hyper-v hosts
are already highly available.
Any feedback and suggestions or recommendation is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Your shared storage is a single point of failure with this scenario so I would not consider the whole setup as a production configuration... Also setup is both slow (all I/O is travelling down the wire to storage server, running VMs from DAS is ages faster)
and expensive (third server + extra Windows license). I would think twice about what you do and either deploy a built-in VM replication technologies (Hyper-V Replica) and apps built-in clustering features that does not require shared storage (SQL Server and
Database Mirroring for example, BTW what workload do you run?) or use some third-party software creating fault tolerant shared storage from DAS or investing into physical shared storage hardware (HA one of course).
Hi VR38DETT,
Thanks for responding. The hosts will cater a domain controller (on each host), Web filtering software (Websense), Anti-Virus (McAfee ePO), WSUS and an Auditserver as of the moment. Is the Hyper-V Replica somewhat give "high availability" to VMs or Hyper-V
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Office Web Apps farm - how to make it high available
Hi there,
I have deployed OWAs for Lync 2013 with two servers in one farm. When I was testing, e.g. the case when other server is down I found out the following error:
Log Name: Microsoft Office Web Apps
Source: Office Web Apps
Date: 17/03/2014 22:59:54
Event ID: 8111
Level: Error
Computer: OWASrv02.domain.com
Description:
A Word or PowerPoint front end failed to communicate with backend machine
http://OWASrv01:809/pptc/Viewing.svc
Does that means, that OWAs cannot setup as high avaiable when using standalone OWAs only? Above error appeared when the server OWASrv01 was rebooting.
PetriHi Petri,
For your scenario, you have achieve a high performance for your Office Web Apps farm but not high availability.
For performing a high availability Office Web Apps farm, you can refer to the blog:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/meamcs/archive/2013/03/27/office-web-apps-2013-multi-servers-nlb-installation-and-deployment-for-sharepoint-2013-step-by-step-guide.aspx
Thanks,
Eric
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SQL Server Analysis Services (SSAS) 2012 High Availability Solution in Azure VM
I have been testing an AlwaysOn high availability failover solution in SQL Server Enterprise on an Azure VM, and this works pretty well as a failover for SQL Server Databases, but I also need a high availability solution for SQL Server
Analysis Server, and so far I haven't found a way to do this. I can load balance it between two machines, but this isn't working as a failover and because of the restriction of not being able to use shared storage in a Failover Cluster in Azure
VM's, I can't set it up as a cluster which is required for AlwaysOn in Analysis Services.
Anyone else found a solution to use an AlwaysOn High Availability for SQL Analysis Services in Azure VM? As my databases are read-only, I would be satisfied with even just a solution that would sync the OLAP databases and switch
the data connection to the same server as the SQL databases.
Thanks!
BillBill,
So, what you need is a model like SQL Server failover cluster instances. (before sql server 2012)
In SQL Server 2012, AlwaysOn replaces SQL Server failover cluster, and it has been seperated to
AlwaysOn Failover Cluster Instances (SQL Server) and
AlwaysOn Availability Groups (SQL Server).
Since your requirement is not in database level, I think the best option is to use AlwaysOn Failover Cluster Instances (SQL Server).
As part of the SQL Server AlwaysOn offering, AlwaysOn Failover Cluster Instances leverages Windows Server Failover Clustering (WSFC) functionality to provide local high availability through redundancy at the server-instance level—a
failover cluster instance (FCI). An FCI is a single instance of SQL Server that is installed across Windows Server Failover Clustering (WSFC) nodes and, possibly, across multiple subnets. On the network, an FCI appears to be an instance of SQL
Server running on a single computer, but the FCI provides failover from one WSFC node to another if the current node becomes unavailable.
It is similar to SQL Server failover cluster in SQL 2008 R2 and before.
Please refer to these references:
Failover Clustering in Analysis Services
Installing a SQL Server 2008 R2 Failover Cluster
Iric Wen
TechNet Community Support -
0x80004005: app install failed - OSD SCCM 2012 R2 - randomly
Hi,
I have visited many forums with this error before posting.
Problem : During TS New computer OSD, app failed to install randomly on all model Win 7 x86 or x64.
Information :
App concerned : Adobe flash, office, chrome...
Domain integration : OK
App installation tested across software center : OK
smsts.log error :
Policy Evaluation failed, hr=0x80004005
Install application action failed: 'Adobe Shockwave Player '. Error Code 0x80004005 InstallApplication
LocationServices.log error :
Policy prevents failover to WINS for lookup
Successfully sent location services HTTP failure message.
Error sending HEAD request. HTTP code 401, status 'Unauthorized'
Client is not assigned to a site. Cannot get security settings.
Client is not assigned to a site. Cannot get site signing cert.
An idea ?Hi,
I create another topic and my problem (App install during OSD) is now solved yes:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/bb10bfc3-f5ec-46a6-9535-ea299266795c/strange-problem-app-install-failed-randomly-osd-sccm-2012-r2?forum=configmanagerosd#f54d0af1-2658-49ee-a57a-1ec9e2b09a3e
You can Check "Continue on error" inside "Options" Tab on your TS. Even if App install fail At least the rest ends well... -
Hi there
I am replacing an app with a newer version via SCCM 2012.
So lets call the existing app App1 and the new app App2.
I have an application created which has App1 configured to be superseded (uninstall) and App2 to be installed as a msi deployment type.
The issue I have ran into is that the install/upgrade fails if App1 is currently opened and running. The uninstall only works if App1 is not opened.
Anyone had to deal with something like this before without reverting to a script deployment type which runs taskkill commands and then a msiexec /x command? Is there a more sophisticated way to do this using the new application model?
The sequence would need to be:
1) App1 if running on the target machine is killed
2) App1 is uninstalled
3) App2 is installed
Anyone put anything like that together?
Regards
JohnThank you for replying.
Yes the key is indeed the uninstallation command and behaviour on App1; as my question makes clear I am aware of that.
I am hoping someone has come up with a clever way of achieving such a requirement, or I will simply have to use a script, which seems a bit unsophisticated given the range of options available in the application model.
Regards
John -
Hi All,<o:p></o:p>
My team and I are developing a software using java that works closely with IT management software such as SCCM. Our software will be highly dependent on data stored in SCCM. Basically
our software will talk to SCCM to get information about a system managed by SCCM. To be able to do that, our software needs to use a java API that talks to SCCM. Is there a java API for SCCM 2012 that we can use? If there is not, what is the work around to
this issue (integrate a java project with SCCM SDKs)? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!<o:p></o:p>Hi,
As you mentioned, it seems that there is no available Java API for SCCM .
Just curious, what's information you want to get from SCCM.
Based on my experience, you could query the SCCM site database to get almost all the information.
Otherwise, your question seems to be related to SCCM 2012. You may also choose to post there to get more effictive help.
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are trying to better understand customer views on social support experience, so your participation in this
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Internet Explorer 11 not available in WSUS/SCCM 2012
Hi all,
do you have any idea why Internet Explorer 11 is not available in WSUS or SCCM 2012.
I would like to deploy it as an update and not as an application.
I have IE 10 listed and also Cumulative Updates for IE 11.
Is it not yet released for SCCM Deployment?
Thank you
Best regardssome history..
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2921911
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, October 8, 2013, ◦Metadata has changed.
[no note of change to release channel, but I think this is when it appeared in WSUS]
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, March 26, 2013, Localization text changed.
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Deployment: Catalog, Classification: High Priority, Non-Security, Update Rollups
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Deployment: Important/Automatic Updates, Classification: High Priority, Non-Security, Update Rollups
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Deployment: Optional/Automatic Updates, Classification: Updates, Non-Security
Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB2718695) Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Deployment: Optional/Automatic Updates and Catalog, Classification: Updates, Non-Security
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2662694
Windows Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista (KB982861) Tuesday, June 21, 2011, Metadata changed to offer to WSUS channel.
Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista (KB982861) Monday, March 28, 2011, Deployment: Windows Update, Microsoft Update, and Important/Automatic Updates, Classification: High Priority, Non-Security,
Update Rollups
Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista (KB982861) Monday, March 28, 2011, Deployment: Windows Update, Microsoft Update, and Optional Installation, Classification: Non-Security, Updates
Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista (KB982861) Monday, March 28, 2011, Deployment: Catalog, Classification: Non-Security, Update Rollups
Don
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App-V 5.0 SP2 user applications published via SCCM 2012 to VDI workstations with roaming only
Hi,
The environment consists of App-V 5.0 SP2 (KB2956985) user based applications published via SCCM 2012 to Windows 7 VDI snapshotted workstations that are reset at user logoff.
When a user logs on the SCCM 2012 client initiates App-V client package publishing. After a couple of minutes after logon the shortcuts appear and the user can launch their applications.
The issue is that at logoff, even with roaming enabled, the publishing information disappears. This causes the next logon process for that user to repeat, the applications are not available until the SCCM client has completed it's publishing cycle.
Roaming profiles are implemented. %APPDATA% is redirected to a UNC path. The following registry key is set
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\AppV\Client\Integration\PreserveUserIntegrationsOnLogin=1
U-EV, global publishing of applications, and AppLocker rules are not an option. Also, I have read this already - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn659478.aspx#BKMK_PE
I do not want to wait for the SCCM client to kick in prior to the user applications being available. What do I need to roam or run to create a seamless transition for the user between sessions?
Eddie.Hi Tywin (bad username considering the last GoT Episode ;))
If you ask Microsoft, they always recommend using SCCM for deploying App-V packages and reuse your current SCCM infrastructure if that is already in place. Problem is, as you now experience, is that there is some big caveats both in regards to publishing
time and to roaming of settings.
As Nické states I would suggest looking into the Full Infrastructure Model for App-V 5.x, which gives you much better performance in what I call "from no apps" to "being able to click the shortcut" - the add and publishing phase. If you don't have the time/budget/whatever
to start looking into that, you could look into some community tools like App-V Scheduler which is developed specific by Citrix guys to ease the publishing and management in a Citrix world.
Microsoft have a great article about Performance Guidelines, which you have read, but it mostly presumes you work with Full Infrastructure. Have you looked into Steve Thomas' session from TechEd NA? It talks about "implementation trends".
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SCCM 2012: clients from SCCM 2007 to 2012: software available instead of installed
Hi,
We have migrated some Windows 7 clients from SCCM 2007 to SCCM 2012 (in which already hundreds of working W7 clients and their apps -most of them migrated from SCCM 2007).
Now applications are shown as available instead of installed. F.e. Adobe Acrobat is installed but it shows as available.
Please advise howto correct.
J.
Jan HoedtHi,
Does it show the right status after you click "Install" of an application?
Best Regards,
Joyce
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SCCM 2012 Agent and high CPU utilization.
We have numerous Windows workstations and servers running with very high CPU utilization. Services are slow to start and login can take an hour. The service running with high CPU is svchost.exe, we determined that it is Windows Management Instrumentation
that is causing high CPU in svchost.exe.
If we stop or uninstall the SCCM 2012 Agent, everything calms down on the computer.
Any ideas as to way this would be?Same issue seen on a clients and KB2617858 resolves it. I am deploying using the App model no problem with x86 and x64 hotfixes with requisite OS requirements. Is there a way to configure to only apply to those that it applies to...if that makes sense. I
ask because my B&C x64 W7Sp1 image does not require it (I have not included it) whereas other non-B&C do - what's the condition or applicability (or non-applicability) if not as listed on the KB..! If I run it one W7 machine it says it doesn't apply
and isn't already, whereas another it installs..!
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2705357:
To apply this hotfix, you must be running one of the following operating systems:
Windows 7
Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Windows Server 2008 R2
Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
..obviously, if a client has the issue it applies :)
Donald Rumsfeld's 'known unknowns' comes to mind here. Sorry. -
Migrating from SCCM 2012 App-V to Native App-V
Hi
I've recently built a full App-V infrastructure ready to take over the delivery of App-V applications from SCCM to improve on a number of key areas. (We have about 50 App-V apps currently being delivered from SCCM 2012)
I found during testing that when I attempt to publish/stream to some test clients that are SCCM managed, publishing failed. I put this down to the
LocationProvider being configured to allow clients to access their applications from SCCM DPs. All sounds fair. When I configured
IgnoreLocationProvider =1, I was able to publish.
I read Thamim's excellent blog here: http://virtualvibes.co.uk/configuration-manager-2012-sp1-and-app-v-5-0-integration-more-than-meets-the-eye/
Right at the bottom this statement became a concern: "Even though you may get the delivery working from App-V Full Infrastructure, sooner or later CM integration
will run the following commands to remove any publishing servers."
So I guess my questions are as follows:
- What is the best strategy for this type of migration?
I guess I'll have to: A) populate my App-V infrastructure with all currently delivered SCCM App-V apps B) Publish them to appropriate AD groups C) Change the App-V GPO to
IgnoreLocationProvider so the clients receive the apps from App-V not SCCM and D) retire the SCCM App-V apps.
- Is there any setting in SCCM that will kick back in and retake control of the App-V client to prevent publishing from App-V Native?
Thanks
David Murphyhaha thanks Rory
Motivation of going to App-V native is stateless VDI.
We will continue to deliver App-V apps to traditional desktops via SCCM however we are getting burned in app delivery times and shortcut management for our stateless hosts. We are working with large clients with hundreds of apps and baking them all into
a single gold image isn't feasible.
App-V native gives us the capability to target users easily and not have to provide an extra config for masking shortcuts (AppSense etc). It's the whole publish to user, stream down, cache to persistent drive (for other users) in a timely fashion that's
driven the decision.
Hope that makes sense.
David Murphy
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