Approximate color match?

Hello all: I'm having trouble getting a color to display. I know there are built-in issues as to how color displays in a browser, but am wondering is I can fine-tune this any more than I have so far.
The issue: page in question has an illustration on it, which contains a shade of red. I'm creating jpegs of text headers in PS, and would like the text to appear in (as nearly as possible) the same red.
I've opened illo in PS, selected the color with the eyedropper, noted the hex number and the RGB settings.
Created new PS files for text heads and used this info to color text in those files. Everything looks fine in PS, color match looks correct - until I go to Save for Web, at which point in the Save for Web window, the color changes dramatically to a darker red. The resulting jpegs also show the wrong color in GL and when live.
Both files (original illo and text head) are RGB mode in PS. Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
Illo red looks fine, both in PS and on web. When I send illo to Save for Web the red remains the same and looks fine.
Text file looks ok in PS until I go to Save for Web, at which time red displays as dark brownish ugly color.
Checking or unchecking Only Web Colors in the Color picker window makes no difference.
Again, I understand that web color is not exact, and there are limitations on what colors can display. But since the red in the illustration displays just fine - in PS, GL, and on the web - it seems like it should be usable in the head jpegs as well - but it doesn't. What am I missing? Is there a way for me to come close to matching the red in the illustration in any way?
thanks
L

Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
That's your problem.
Either set your working space to sRGB for new graphics, or convert them to sRGB when you save for web. The convert to sRGB option can be checked either in the save for web dialogue, or in the save for web dialogue flyout menu (to the right of the preset drop down menu), depending on your PS version.
This is a color management issue, and has to do with how your browser interprets color. You can enable color management (google it) using Firefox and might find your results more predictable.

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Hello all: I'm having trouble getting a color to display correctly. I know there are built-in issues as to how color displays in a browser, but am wondering is I can fine-tune this any more than I have so far.
The issue: creating art for a GL page. Page in question has an illustration on it, which contains a shade of red. I'm creating jpegs of text headers in PS, and would like the text to appear in (as nearly as possible) the same red.
I've opened illustration in PS, selected the color with the eyedropper, noted the hex number and the RGB settings.
Created new PS files for text heads and used this info to color text in those files. Everything looks fine in PS, color match looks correct - until I go to Save for Web, at which point in the Save for Web window, the color changes dramatically to a darker red. The resulting jpegs also show the wrong color in GL and when live.
Both files (original illo and text head) are RGB mode in PS. Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
Illustration red looks fine, in PS, in GL, and on web. When I send illo to Save for Web the red remains the same and looks fine.
Text file looks ok in PS until I go to Save for Web, at which time red displays as dark brownish ugly color.
Checking or unchecking Only Web Colors in the Color picker window makes no difference.
Again, I understand that web color is not exact, and there are limitations on what colors can display. And this does not have to be an exact match; only an approximation. But since the red in the illustration displays just fine - in PS, GL, and on the web - it seems like it should be usable and display correctly in the head jpegs as well - but it isn't. What am I missing? Is there a way for me to come close to matching the red in the illustration in any way?
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Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
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