Color match issue in FCPX 10.1.4

I recently upgraded from FCPX 10.0.9 under OSX Snow Leopard to FCPX 10.1.4 under OSX Mavericks. In th latest version of FCPX I recognized that the results of the color match function are very different compared to version 10.0.9 of FCPX. I used it a lot with great results, in the latest version the colors don't match anymore. I re-installed FCPX version 10.0.9 under OSX Mavericks and the color match function is working perfectly. Anybody else has this issue? For now I'm back to the old version until I find a solution to my problem.

Still, the question remains - if one adjusts for it in the display calibration (uncheck the box in color)
THEN one's rods & cones just get bleached out. Snowblind. Yes?
Here are 2 solutions. In my opinion, Larry is best (do it at export in compressor)... Apple's H.264 is an issue, I do use the x264 encoder.
http://www.larryjordan.biz/compressor-x264-improve-video/
I like this guy's idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36p3s3mEwA
--And here is the "Ready Made" "plug ins":
http://bananamanafilms.com/gamma-and-yuv-plugin-for-fcpx
Alex4d on his "Old Site" has both Gamma & YUV plug-ins as well. He is most generous.
I do miss having the "super white" setting from FCP 7 - however - one really always has to
"finish" the look after exporting to file - or at least I do. In fact i usually need another pair of eyes
for really subtle stuff. Prefeably youngsters that aren't part red/green color blind like me.

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Color matching issues

I'm working in CS3 Web premium. I had to make jpgs for a rollover link in photoshop to drop in Dreamweaver. The black background in Dreamweaver and Photoshop are off a couple of shades and this shows when viewing in a browser. Is there a preference to color match across the apps as I run into this often.
anybody?

hello,
dreamweaver is not color managed, so on a mac, it will apply your monitor profile
the short answer is to
calibrate/profile monitor to 2.2 gamma, d65/6500
convert to sRGB before Save For Web or importing in dreamweaver
http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html

Epson R1800-color match issues solved

I had reported issues with the printer no longer matching the monitor colors
many of you said to get a hardware device and calibrate monitor
instead I downloaded a newer driver for the printer
still had issues
SO:
I changed from printer manages colors to PS managed workflow and decided to use color profiles from ILFORD (smooth glossy)
document space sRGB-IEC61966-2.1
printer profile- ISGP9.....etc
relative colormetric (recommended by Epson document)
black point compensation ticked
then in Epson interface:
turn off printer mgmt (check ICM box>> then check off)
if you use preview before print, the image will look hideous in the interface, but prints fine
looks pretty good
prints match monitor colors
so I am thinking it is the Espon color profiles that are whack
Kat

This is all good info, but for me at least, the real issue is not whether you can get the driver/printer to function (most people seem to be able to get it working) but when you get it functioning under Snow Leopard are there color issues.
Although the printer may work fine for basic documents etc, it is for color-critical photo work that I need my 2200. Many other posts are reporting that although the driver is functioning, there are fairly severe color issues when trying to create high-quality photographic prints using the standard color-managed workflow. This would be rather crippling for photographers and other artists who rely on their 2200.
Maybe those posting here could comment on whether they have been using their 2200 for photographic purposes and whether or not they have seen color issues. I wonder if some people just aren't noticing a problem because they aren't doing color-managed photographic work.
I haven't installed Snow Leopard yet and I'm trying to determine if this is affecting a very small percentage of people or if everyone is having trouble getting proper color from their 2200 since Snow Leopard. So far I haven't seen a single post specifically stating that they they are using the 2200 for high quality photo printing and have had no color issues under Snow Leopard.
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Laser Jet CP1215 Color Matching Issues;

Colors are abnormally darker than the photos, art and copy especially those in red.They appear to be redishbrown.
But, not all the photos/art on a page are effected.
I have been working with HP Thech service guy who has put me through several days of worthless exercises, The printer's Self Test is perfect. I also created a custom color to no avail.
The problem evolved over the past month. I have replaced all the origional cartriges with 123 Inkjets HP Copatibles over the past year with no problems until now.

Hello Ghsmrt,
To get the best and most accurate support for your printer please post your issue to the printer forums. I will provide you the direct link below, which will take you directly to the site. It is possible that you will have to create a new profile, before you are to post your issue.
HP printer forum
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Color Management issues with Illustrator

Can someone help me figure out the color management issues I'm getting when printing on an Epson 3880 from Illustrator?
The image comes out severely red as evident on the face. I'm not getting the same problem when printing from Photoshop, even though I set same paper profile in printing dialog box.
I attached two printed picture (one from Photoshop CC, and one from Illustrator CC) that I took with my iphone so that you can see the printed result. Even when I try to simulate same thing using illustrator soft proofing process, the soft proof does not show me anything close to how it gets printed out. And I tried all device simulations to see if any would match it. Im using CMYK SWOP v2 for Color space in both programs.

Dougfly,
Only an hour wasted? Lucky you. Color is an incredibly complex subject. First, forget matching anything to the small LCD on the back of your camera. That's there as a basic guide and is affected by the internal jpg algorithm of your camera.
2nd, you're not really takeing a color photo with your digital camera, but three separate B&W images in a mosaic pattern, exposed thru separate red, green and blue filters. Actual color doesn't happen until that matrix is demosaiced in either your raw converter, or the in-camera processor (which relies heavily on camera settings, saturation, contrast, mode, etc.)
Having said the above, you can still get very good, predictable results in your workflow. I have a few color management articles on my website that you might find very helpful. Check out the Introduction to Color Management and Monitor and Printer Profiling. In my opinion, a monitor calibration device is the minimum entry fee if you want decent color.
http://www.dinagraphics.com/color_management.php
Lou

Problems with color matching when printing...

Hi, I work for a small family business in the P.O.P. industry. We currently have myself and one other designer, we both take illustrator files that have come from the graphic design firm that we contract with and get them ready to print on our Vutek QS3200. However ever since acquiring the printer we have begun to run into problems with the colors when printing. When the files are exported off of my computer, I use either .tif or .pdf files, they print as they should, the colors seem to match the proof and everything goes smoothly. However when the other designer exports a file, he tends to do mainly pdfs, the colors tend to be extremely different from where we want them. Also we will get very strange results, such as yesterday he kept getting a faint yellow 1/2" border around his prints. After I believe 3+ hours of him trying, I was given the original CD and instructed to try. After 15-20 minutes of making the changes that we needed to make (adding a new price point) and ripping, mine printed perfectly.
We both use Macs, both have CS3 Design standard, only differences between the computers are mine is newer and a bit faster, and I'm running OS 10.5.6 and he has 10.4. He has also at some point loaded various color profiles, whereas my CS package is just whatever the default is when I loaded it. When we were being trained he grabbed the color profile off of the Colorburst RIP server and loaded onto his computer, plus I believe he has a couple for freelancing purposes on there as well. My thought is that these profiles are somehow corrupting the files that are going through that computer, but I honestly am lost with it at the moment. He believes the problem lies within the fact that he does not have the newer OS, I honestly cannot see that as having any effect on this at all. I was wondering if anyone has run into any similar problems, or if anyone might have any advice on this issue? I would really like to be able to solve this, as I was hired to do mainly structural design for the P.O.P. and I'm having to put in a lot of overtime to get my work done along with the additional work that I'm having to do.
Thanks for your time

I've got a few years experience calibrating large format printers. First, the Yellow sounds like a file problem. I used to work with two workstations, one PC ( RIP station ), and one Mac ( file prep station ). I tend to agree with you in that the OS is probably not the problem. But, any Colorburst profiles should remain in the RIP, not in the originator application. My workflow consisted of creating EPS files that were based on established color settings in their given applications ( i.e., Illustrator, Photoshop ) which were interpreted by the RIP which had it's own calibrated profile ( perhaps more than one based on how many different substrates were being used ). Your partner may be complicating things by incorporating a RIP profile prematurely. If there are deviations big enough to be noticed, there has to be something in the application color settings that is causing some type of corruption. This could lead back to the operating system, but I would think it lies somewhere in Bridge or the application color settings. Start there. You should seriously consider implementing a calibration system if you do not have one already. Another slight possibility is the driver's ability to interpret files coming out of Leopard vs. files coming out of Tiger. It may benefit you both to be in the same operating system dynamics, using the same driver versions and RIP profiles. At the very least, match everything that is currently working successfully and put them on both machines. If there is still a noticeable problem in color matching, then something is seriously wrong and you should call in a prepress profiling expert. Hope this helps.

Color matching with multicam clips

Hello,
I'm trying to figure out how I can color match between my multicam clips in FCPX. I'm kind of a newbie, but I'm trying... :-)
If I double click on a multicam clip that I just created, I see all the clips expanded on the timeline. At that point, I can sync, edit, etc. If I color match there, it's very easy, and it works well. The problem is that I can't figure out how to save all my edits and then "un-expand" the mulitcam clip so it's just the one layered clip (same as if you just drag the multicam clip down from the events list).
I suppose I could just leave it expanded - but it would be easier to work with if it was just the one multicam clip, instead of all the clips inside it expanded out. So - how do I do it? Am I making sense? If the color matching applied to the actual event, it would be easy - and I could just create a new multicam clip and start a new project. However, it doesn't work that way and only applies the color matching to the clip in the timeline (as it should....).
Thanks for any help you might have.
Johnny

Hi Tom,
I've got a similar problem to the one you helped on this thread.
I'm trying to colour correct one of the multicam clips in the angle editor.
When I click colour match and hover over the other clip part of this multi cam clip nothing happens and the 'apply match' button remains greyed out.
I can colour match the individual cuts back in normal time line but of course I don't want to waste time doing it to every single clip/cut.
Why won't it let me colour correct in angle editor?
The mouse icon turns into a mini monitor when I hover over the clip i want to match to.
Any ideas?

Color shift (color management) issues in Mavericks

Noticed color management lacking for Safari and Dock icons just after Maverick update, but was unable to check it with recalibration. Today X-Rite issued an update for i1 Display PRO and i was able to recalibrate my display, but the problem unsurprisingly wasn't in the display profile.
Bellow are two screenshots of Safari vs. Chrome and FF vs. Chrome respectively.
Color difference is seen with the naked eye, but gray and blue fields' values are also annotated (Safari is on the left, Chrome is on the right).
These are FF (on the left) and Chrome (on the right) with no color difference, both browsers are color-managed.

Issues here too: 2013 Mac Pro, latest Mavericks/browser versions (OS X 10.9.4), and Dell UP2414Q display (known for good color—not to mention the only retina display money can buy).
Safari seems fine: web sites with no color profiles in the images look very much as I am used to from OS X Lion and Windows on other machines (some variation from screen to screen is just life). CSS colors match image colors when they should.
Firefox is ultra-saturated: web sites the look fine in Firefox--and identical to Safari--under OS X Lion (on a different Mac/display anyway) but on the new Mavericks system, colors are eye-burningly saturated! That's CSS and images alike (without color profiles). CSS and image colors still match—but both are WAY oversaturated.
Note: images dragged from Safari and Firefox to my desktop both look fine when opened in Quick Look or Preview. Both (again, images without profiles) look super-saturated like Firefox when opened in Photoshop CC—despite Photoshop having the same settings I'm used to using (color management Off for RGB, working space set to Monitor) on my old Mac with PS CS6 under Lion. Yet the color values in PS CC do register as correct despite looking so bad (same goes when opening my own RGB source PSDs that generated the web sites to begin with).
Shouldn't Safari and Firefox out of the box look alike, since they do in earlier OS versions? (Even if some workaround is found, "out of the box" a new Mac with default Firefox installation now looks terrible.)
Separate but complicating issues, in case it helps to diagnose this:
a) The Dell display's default calibration looks quite good to me; but if I run Apple's visual calibration steps which I would normally do on a new Mac, everything gets very dark. (So I went back to the default calibration, which is supplied by Apple and called "Dell UP2414Q"; Apple clearly supports this display specifically, since I never installed any Dell software.)
b) When I take an OS X screenshot of Safari, despite it looking "right" everywhere (Preview and Photoshop CC alike), values are way off. (Regardless of whether I strip the color profile or not when importing the screenshot into Photoshop CC.) When I take a screenshot off Firefox, the screenshot looks "right" (no longer oversaturated!) in Preview and Quicklook. When imported into Photoshop CC, Firefox screenshots behave just like drag-saved images from Firefox: they appear super-saturated just like in the browser, BUT the color values at least register correctly.
c) No setting I can find for Photoshop CC will make exported images look right (and match CSS colors) in ANY browser unless I accept them being super-saturated while I work on them (which of course is untenable). I'll deal with that separately: I've abandoned the new Mac Pro for Photoshop work and gone back to my old Mac (and PS CS6)--but this I assume to be Adobe's fault. I mention it only in case it's some kind of clue.
For what it's worth, here's my interpretation: Firefox and Photoshop are using the full gamut of the display, while Safari is not—and Safari looks GOOD not using the full gamut. (And at least with this Dell display, it looks "correct" that way.) Pure primary red #FF0000 (images and CSS alike) which appears normal to me in Safari and Preview and Quicklook turns to eye-burning neon red in Firefox and Photoshop (with management Off and working space set to Monitor). It's kind of amazing that the display can show a red even more brilliant than I have ever seen on a computer before, BUT it doesn't help me design web sites for the rest of the world who has a more ordinary gamut.
Maybe this is just a long-standing Firefox bug, revealed to me now that I have a large-gamut display? (But that wouldn't explain why other people have seen colors MORE saturated in Safari then Firefox.)

"Color Matching" option in print dialogue box...

Hello,
I've upgraded to 10.5 (printing from latest Adobe CS3 Photoshop and InDesign) to an Epson R2400 (with the latest 10.5 drivers from Epson). I let Photoshop/InDesign handle color management (rather than the printer).
Once I hit "print" from the application I'm sent to the OS X print dialogue box. From here I select my Epson settings as I always have (including turning off Epson Color Management) but now, within 10.5, there's a new OS X specific printing option listed as "Color Matching". When I select this I'm giving the options for "ColorSync" (from which I can then choose "automatic" or choose a specific printing profile — though, when I try to select one, I always get a warning saying I'll get undesirable results, and it only goes away when I select "automatic") or "Epson Color Management" (or something like that).
I do not have an option to turn these "off", I have to select one or the other.
Now, what exactly is going on here?
Which do I want to select?
I assume I would leave it to "ColorSync" since I know I don't want the printer to manage the color, but I'm just confused as to what these settings do since I'm supposed to be managing the color via Photoshop.
Can anyone shed some light onto this new option under 10.5?
Thanks!
Kristin.

Yes, very strange. If you see a few posts up I actually did get it to work the way I need it to. I called Epson and they had ne reset the printer settings through the system preferences. On my first try this did NOT work, however everything worked as it should in Preview (another image program) and since it did work there the Epson tech basically siad then it's not their problem - most likely adobe.
However just for the hell of it after I hung up, I tried resetting the printer settings again and sure enough it worked. I was able to change the color settings while using Photoshop to manage colors - namely I needed to print a B&W through the Advanced B&W setting. When they are grayed out I can't do this. But even while doing color I don't like that it's grayed out. I've been printing both color and B&W for the last 5-7 years with photosjop manageing colors. I know about double profiling and how to avoid it.
If this was by design from adobe, it deosn't make sense that I was able to access it a few weeks ago after resetting the printer settings. And if this was the case when did Adobe supposedly make the change?
I don't know what's different now, the only thing I can figure is that I had this issue sometime after I installed the lastest Epson print driver - hence the call to Epson... Maybe it's snow leopard weirdness, but I had snow leopard on my laptop and was always able to print sucessfully, but have not tried it since I got the new Mac Pro.
And the strange thing it works fine on other programs. I can have photoshop manage colors and they are not grayed out. Strange and frustrating. Time to set up the DR.
I guess I shoud uninstall PS and then try re-installing it.
thanks...

Color calibration issues - blue tint w/ sRGB

Need some help getting this issue resolved & wondering if there is a problem with my LCD.
I do a lot of web and video work and recently moved from a 17" Powerbook G4 to a 17" MacBook Pro. Both used with a 20" Apple Cinema display. The color temperature (tint) between the Powerbook and the new MacBook Pro are drastically different - especially when using sRGB calibration which is recommended by Adobe for this type of work. The cinema display seems correct and closely matches my Powerbook when using sRGB, but the Macbook Pro is very blue. The Macbook Pro displays more warm grays vs. the cinema display when using the default calibration settings.
Using sRGB for both displays:
http://idisk.mac.com/edgedesign-Public/Calibration/photo_sRBG.jpg
Using default calibration for both displays:
http://idisk.mac.com/edgedesign-Public/Calibration/photo_default.jpg
*Notice the 20" cinema hardly changes in either of these shots which make me think there's a problem with the MacBook Pro display.
- Are all the new MacBook Pros like this?
- Why so different than the Powerbook display and Cinema displays?
- Any calibration suggestions for Adobe CS3 and screen work?

Brief intro before I pontificate: I have a degree in imaging and used to be one of the guys you talked to at Eastman Kodak about monitor color calibration (before Kodak drove me crazy).
A few points:
First, sRGB is a needlessly small gamut color space invented by Microsoft. In the professional imaging field it is looked at with great disdain because it is imposing a needless crushing of your monitor's color profile. I've talked to one of the color experts at Adobe and he completely agrees. I don't know who at Adobe is recommending sRGB, but they are W R O N G. I personally call sRGB 'StupidRGB' in order to remind myself exactly what it is worth.
Second, the field of color calibration, color matching and color correction is complicated and requires considerable understanding to perform correctly. There are entire books on the subject, well worth reading. You can even take classes on the subject, such as at Rochester Institute of Technology (plugging my Alma matter). If you have shopped around for color calibration devices you will find they are incredibly expensive, and there is a reason for that.
Third, LCD screens generally SUCK for color matching. Here are a few reasons why:
(A) The viewing angle of most LCD screens is so small that if you tilt your head up, down, right or left you end up with a shift in color balance and contrast. Result: no way can you accurately color match. This is most certainly the case with ALL MacBooks, MacBook Pros and iMacs. The Cinema displays are vastly better. You can check this out yourself at your local Apple Store.
(B) In case you had not heard, none of the MacBook or MacBook Pro laptops are capable of showing all colors to which the human eye is sensitive. They don't do 'millions of colors' despite advertising you have read. They do about 260,000 colors and dither the rest. Dithering does NOT create colors that are not there. It just fakes them. The result again is that it is impossible to use these LCDs for accurate color matching. I have no knowledge about whether this color problem is the case with iMacs, but refer to the paragraph above regarding their viewing angle problem.
(C) The color gamut on even the very best LCD display is at the mercy of the fluorescent light bulbs inside the displays. The massive problem with fluorescent lights is that they do not have a continuous color spectrum. What you get are specific wavelength peaks with complete dropouts of other colors. Ye old CRTs with electron guns and glowing phosphors were/are not perfect either, but they were/are MUCH better at representing the full spectrum of light. Their gamut is much larger and more accurate than any LCD display. CRTs remain THE professional display for color calibration and color matching, even today.
I could rant on, but I think you get the message: Color matching on LCDs is a lousy idea, and on MacBooks and MacBook Pros it is essentially an impossible idea. The colors you need are not there on the screen. What you see is not what you get in terms of color. Give up.
That having been said, you can optimize your results for guestimation purposes. The very first thing I do with ANY display, including on Mac laptops, is go into the 'Displays' preference pane, hit the 'Color' tab and 'Calibrate...' the display. You MUST use 'Expert Mode'. Don't bother with mickey mouse mode. Fiddling with the settings will drive you nuts at first. But practice makes perfect. As long as you are not color blind you WILL get the hang of it, even if you don't understand what it is doing. Don't get psyched out. It works rather well.
When you get to 'Gamma' (you can look these terms up on Wikipedia) you want to use the same Gamma number as the other monitor you will be using for viewing. 1.8 is fine for Macs. Beats me why the 'PC' standard is 2.2. It is essentially a harsher contrast, but try it and use it if you like it, on BOTH monitors. Do NOT use 'native gamma' as it is rare that two displays have identical native gammas.
Next up is your 'white point'. Again, you want both your displays to have the same white point. D50 is the standard for viewing images in daylight. D65 is a bluer 'white point'. 9300 is the bluest of all. These numbers represent 'color temperature' as it is called. The sun has a color temperature hovering around 5000º Kelvin, thus D50 where D = Display. D65 = 6500º Kelvin, etc. Again, there is lots to read about in this field. Do NOT use 'native white point' on your displays if you are color matching because again, they won't be the same on each display.
When you get to the point of naming your color calibration profile you MUST include in the name the gamma number you used and the white point number you used. You will want to know, believe me. Here is why: You are going to want to make further color calibration profiles for different situations either now or in the future. Here's one example:
Lighting environment: Are you working on your MacBook Pro in the dark? Are the walls in the room a neutral color? Or are the walls colored? What kind of light is being used in the room? Fluorescent? Incandescent? Daylight? Details in the lighting environment in which you are working will affect how you perceive color on your display! You may want a morning color profile, an afternoon sun profile, and a night profile. If you have windows near you, these different times of day will affect the light in your work area and how you perceive color on your display. Again, go find a good book if you really want to understand this stuff.
A good basic calibration for plain old every day work, useless for color matching but nice to look at: I go through the calibration process for my lighting environment then use a gamma of 1.8 and I check off 'Use native white point'. Why? LCDs look their best at their native white point. You get good contrast with optimum color. Try it, you'll like it.
:-Derek

Approximate color match?

Hello all: I'm having trouble getting a color to display. I know there are built-in issues as to how color displays in a browser, but am wondering is I can fine-tune this any more than I have so far.
The issue: page in question has an illustration on it, which contains a shade of red. I'm creating jpegs of text headers in PS, and would like the text to appear in (as nearly as possible) the same red.
I've opened illo in PS, selected the color with the eyedropper, noted the hex number and the RGB settings.
Created new PS files for text heads and used this info to color text in those files. Everything looks fine in PS, color match looks correct - until I go to Save for Web, at which point in the Save for Web window, the color changes dramatically to a darker red. The resulting jpegs also show the wrong color in GL and when live.
Both files (original illo and text head) are RGB mode in PS. Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
Illo red looks fine, both in PS and on web. When I send illo to Save for Web the red remains the same and looks fine.
Text file looks ok in PS until I go to Save for Web, at which time red displays as dark brownish ugly color.
Checking or unchecking Only Web Colors in the Color picker window makes no difference.
Again, I understand that web color is not exact, and there are limitations on what colors can display. But since the red in the illustration displays just fine - in PS, GL, and on the web - it seems like it should be usable in the head jpegs as well - but it doesn't. What am I missing? Is there a way for me to come close to matching the red in the illustration in any way?
thanks
L

Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
That's your problem.
Either set your working space to sRGB for new graphics, or convert them to sRGB when you save for web. The convert to sRGB option can be checked either in the save for web dialogue, or in the save for web dialogue flyout menu (to the right of the preset drop down menu), depending on your PS version.
This is a color management issue, and has to do with how your browser interprets color. You can enable color management (google it) using Firefox and might find your results more predictable.

Printouts too dark on Laserjet CP2025, HP Basic Color Match tool crashes.

I recently purchased an HP Color LaserJet CP2025, but my prints are coming out extremely dark causing me to have to use extreme brightness/contrast increases when printing pictures.
I tried using the HP Basic Color Match tool hoping it would address the issue, but ever time I get to the color match choice option the program crashes.
I'm using 32-bit WinXP Pro.

Here is a link to a document that addresses print quality issues for your model or printer. It will give you troubleshooting steps to try in an attempt to correct the quality output issue that you are having with the printer. One of the topics covered in the article is how to adjust print density settings if the pages are printing too dark. It also covers how to change other print settings based on the quality of your output. I hope that this helps.
I am a former employee of HP...
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Cross Post: Approximate color match?

Hello all: I'm having trouble getting a color to display correctly. I know there are built-in issues as to how color displays in a browser, but am wondering is I can fine-tune this any more than I have so far.
The issue: creating art for a GL page. Page in question has an illustration on it, which contains a shade of red. I'm creating jpegs of text headers in PS, and would like the text to appear in (as nearly as possible) the same red.
I've opened illustration in PS, selected the color with the eyedropper, noted the hex number and the RGB settings.
Created new PS files for text heads and used this info to color text in those files. Everything looks fine in PS, color match looks correct - until I go to Save for Web, at which point in the Save for Web window, the color changes dramatically to a darker red. The resulting jpegs also show the wrong color in GL and when live.
Both files (original illo and text head) are RGB mode in PS. Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
Illustration red looks fine, in PS, in GL, and on web. When I send illo to Save for Web the red remains the same and looks fine.
Text file looks ok in PS until I go to Save for Web, at which time red displays as dark brownish ugly color.
Checking or unchecking Only Web Colors in the Color picker window makes no difference.
Again, I understand that web color is not exact, and there are limitations on what colors can display. And this does not have to be an exact match; only an approximation. But since the red in the illustration displays just fine - in PS, GL, and on the web - it seems like it should be usable and display correctly in the head jpegs as well - but it isn't. What am I missing? Is there a way for me to come close to matching the red in the illustration in any way?
thanks in advance -
PS 8.0/CS1
GL 7.0.2/CS1

Both have embedded profiles for Adobe RGB. Color settings in PS set to Adobe RGB.
That's your problem.
Either set your working space to sRGB for new graphics, or convert them to sRGB when you save for web. The convert to sRGB option can be checked either in the save for web dialogue, or in the save for web dialogue flyout menu (to the right of the preset drop down menu), depending on your PS version.
This is a color management issue, and has to do with how your browser interprets color. You can enable color management (google it) using Firefox and might find your results more predictable.

I would like to change the colour of bars in a chart without losing the underlying default texture associated with my chosen theme. None of the 3D textured fills offered in "Chart Colors" match the textured fill of the theme. Any suggestions?

I would like to change the colour of bars in a chart without losing the underlying default texture associated with my chosen theme. None of the 3D textured fills offered in "Chart Colors" match the textured fill of the theme. Any suggestions?

Thanks Gary, but no, that does not work. First of all, I can't select each bar individually. When I click on one bar, all three bars are selected.
When I use "inspector > graphic" I have 5 fill options: none, color, gradient, image, tinted image. The default selection for the theme I'm using is image. What I would like to use for my charts is the same image that this theme uses for table headers. It has the same texture as the chart, but a different colour. Using anything but image or tinted image removes the texture from the fill.
I have found I can do one of two things. I can select tinted image from the fill selections in "inspector > graphic" or I can select 2D Image Fills from "inspector > chart > chart colors". The first choice does not allow me to match the table header colour because it only allows me to apply a tint to the existing colour and adjust its opacity. The existing colour has too much influence on the fill, so I can't find an RGB adjustment that will match the table header colour. The image selections from "inspector > chart > chart colors" do not quite match the colour or the texture. Again, I can try to tint the image, but I still can't get it to match and the texture is not the same anyway.
The image I want to use obviously exists in the software as it is an attribute of the theme, but for some reason is inaccessible. The other angle I have tried is to edit the theme, but I can't figure out how to do that either.

A different take on the "Save For Web" color shift issue...

Ok, everyone who has fussed much with photoshop and "Save For Web" knows about the color shift issue. If you want your colors to look right after you "save for web", you have to work in the sRGB colorspace, and have Proof Colors checked (soft proofing on) and the proof color setup set to Monitor RGB, otherwise what you get looks terrible when displayed in a browser.
But of course if you are editing for print, this is exactly what you DON'T want to do. Well, I work in both. In fact, often the same images, and I want them to appear as close as reasonably possible in both print and web formats, and without a lot of fussing on my part. And I'm pickiest about the print mode, since I have the most control there, so that's the way I want to edit by default.
Nothing new here.
Now comes the interesting part (in my mind, anyway). Obviously there is a known remapping -- because PhotoShop DOES it when you select Proof Colors. So the inverse mapping must also be known (with some gamut issues, but I'm not concerned with those, because, after all, I'm VIEWING it on a monitor anyway!). What I want is a plug-in that automatically applies that inverse mapping so that, when I do a Save For Web, I end up with the colors I've been viewing all the time when setting the shot up in print mode. Then, too, I don't have to worry about what mode I'm in when I'm editing -- it just fixes it when doing a save-for-web.
Again, I want to edit in my normal print mode (typically ProPhoto colorspace, and with soft-proofing off or set to the printer/medium combination I expect to use), then do a single operation (might be a multi-step action) to "screw up" my colors so that when I then do a "Save-For-Web", the resulting image, when viewed on the average color-stupid browser, looks like the image I've been seeing in Photoshop.
Anyone know of such a beast?   I would gladly pay for a plug-in that really works and fixes the problem.
And if you have other solutions, I'm interested, but the absolute requirement is that it I do one single edit pass for my colors for both print and web use, and I get what I see on the screen in PS on both the prints and on the web display (i.e., working in sRGB/Monitor RGB mode all the time won't cut it). And PREFERABLY, let me do all my editing work in the ProPhoto (or at least AdobeRGB) colorspace so I have a gamut closer to what the printer can do.
Anyone got a decent solution for this?

Sorry, I think I'm being unclear. This has nothing to do with individual monitor profiles. In Proof Setup, "Monitor RGB" amounts to turning off ALL color management, and simply letting the monitor do what it will. It is what the vast majority of web browsers do (even if the operating system provides color management, the browsers don't take advantage of it), so that is what you need to consider for images that will be viewed on a web browser. If you convert your image to sRGB, select Monitor RGB in Proof Set up, and turn on Proof Colors, you will see the image as it would appear on a web browser (after you save it as a jpg or use "Save For Web/Devices" to save it as a jpg).   Since almost everyone is running different uncalibrated monitors, there will be lots of variation in how it will look to them, so precise control of the color is unimportant.
That said, I would expect the color on a calibrated monitor (such as the one I use when editing) to be reasonably close to the colors I am seeing while editing in PS. To the extent a monitor deviates from "calibrated", those colors will vary, but a good monitor should show good colors.   Unfortunately, this is NOT the case, as my previous post shows. The colors produced by the steps above are oversaturated and significantly shifted in hue. There is, to my mind, anyway, no reason for this. Adobe clearly knows what the mapping is between the colors as it displays them in PS and the un-controlled "Monitor RGB" -- that is, it is the color map they are using during normal editing display. If they were to reverse-apply that map prior to saving it as a jpg, then the image would appear on a browser on that same (presumably calibrated) monitor very similar to what you set up when editing. Anyone else viewing the image on a web browser with a calibrated monitor would also see good colors. To the extent other viewers' monitors are out of calibration, their colors will suck, but there's nothing you can do about that.
I guess in some sense I AM "asking for a Color-Mamangement-solution for a "non-Color-Management-situation", but specifically I'm asking for PS Color Management to do the best it can for non-Color-Managed situations that we all face every day.
Does that make more sense?

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