Are nested server side includes supported in DW?

Using DW 5.5 on Win 7, Apache 2.2 setup. Does DW Design view support nested server-side includes? I have to work on an old legacy site with nested ssi's that I haven't worked on for quite awhile, and I noted that while working on a page the left side column was not displaying in Display mode, so where the left column should be is just an empty blank div.
I could swear that DW used to display the nested ssi's, but looking at it now, it certainly isn't.
The left side column is just a div that is ssi included in the bodies of the pages ( nothing special ). It ssi includes various pieces such as news, announcements, etc. Everything displays fine on the website, but in the Design view the nested SSI's don't display.
Thanks,
Doug

Ken, yes it's an include(s) inside an include. In this case the leftcolumn.html is server-side included in all the pages on the site. Inside the leftcolumn.html are four server-side includes for announcements, news, calendar, and next meeting info. Each of those are separate .html files that are constantly edited. It makes things nice and neat and I can give permission to other people to edit the individual files without screwing up the leftcolumn.html or the whole page. So leftcolumn.html is just a div with a width/margins/background color class and the four server-side includes. Of course you have to tell IIS or Apache you want to allow .html files to use ssi's, but that is simple enough and I think nicer than using .shtml's. YMMV.
What I thought I remembered was that the left column was fully displayed in the Split or Design modes, but I guess I was wrong. All I see is an empty leftcoumn div that has the proper width and background color. I work almost exclusively in DW code view or sometimes Split View, or use another editor like Brackets or CFBuilder, and just switch to a browser to view the pages.
Doug

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I've been using SSI's for ages with no problem from any host. Recently I signed up with a new web hosting company, one of the more established ones in the Seattle area. They do not support SSI's and claim that using them is not safe and is not a modern approach to web design. They suggested I use a more advanced programming language to create my sites, such as ASP.NET (something I have no desire to do).
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-Jesse

Are server side includes outdated and no longer the way to do things? I find that hard to believe.
That language is from Microsoft who seem to think so along with Windows based hosting providers offering ASP.NET.
IIS no longer comes with SSI installed by default. It has to be configured by the hosting provider.
http://blogs.iis.net/robert_mcmurray/archive/2010/12/28/iis-notes-on-server-side-includes- ssi-syntax-kb-203064-revisited.aspx
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Many thanks in advance!

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I have a template (dwt) for my site with editable regions for
menus. I want to use Server Side Includes for the menu, as not all
the pages will have the same menu.
I have designed the site template (and pages) with css and
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looking on Google for help, but not much luck. I can get the Div to
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im not sure exactly which code to get rid of in the shtml file. I
know I need to remove body, head parts etc
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> Im sure Ive not got it right yet!! My head wont work
lately!
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I like the
'monkeybutt' extension, e.g.,
yourinclude.monkeybutt
The include files can make reference to CSS selectors, but
cannot have
embedded CSS rules, or links to external CSS files.
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> Ive made myself confused now! I need it spelling out to
me!
>
> Ok, a template file (dwt) with its css as an external
style sheet.
>
> Rest of the sites pages made from the template file.
>
> Next, the template has one editable region for a choce
of 2 div based
> menus to
> be placed into. Place either of these div menus into the
template editable
> region by creating two seperate SHTML files - one for
each menu with the
> body/head removed(and with internal or external css?)
>
> Next put the SSI code into the body of the template
where I want the SSI
> to
> appear.
>
> Im sure Ive not got it right yet!! My head wont work
lately!
>

Server-side includes in css

I am trying to incorporate server-side includes for my nav.
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navigationals (with proper links when I hovered) with F12 iexlorer,
but when I upload everything and view it from IE, Mozilla, etc.
they aren't there. My left nav. is totally blank.
I am very new to web making and learned what I could from
internet sites. Here are examples of my ssi code:
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menu.html looks like:
<ul>
<li><a href="index.php">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="searchplans.php">Search Plans
</a></li>
<li><a href="modifydesign.php">Modify
Design</a></li>
<li><a href="designpricing.php">Design
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<li><a href="purchaseplan.php">Purchase
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I know that my server supports ssi, because I previously
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php too, but thought it was a problem with my settings in
Dreamweaver.
If you have any advice, I would be very grateful. I am
banging my head on this one.

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HTH,
Randy
> <?php include("menu.html");?>

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I am using the book "Standard complant websites using dreamweaver 8" One of the exercises has me testing that server side includes are enabled by creating two files ssi_test.shtml and hello.html. I have placed these two files in the documents subfolder which web server is the main folder.
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How do I modify it?
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James
powermac G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

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Hello,
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Sorry if this has been asked before? I did search and
couldn't find it (this site is painfully slow and searching is
worse)
I am trying to figure out how to make DW8 show my server-side
include files in the design view. My site uses SSI for all headers
and footers, so every page has at least 2 SSI's. They show up as
the SSI mark on the page, but not the code or graphical
representation of what is in the SSI. I need to have that code
snipet show up in my design view. The only way I have been able to
figure out how to do it, is to reinsert the SSI again from the
menu, and then delete it. Doing it that way, the original ssi that
is listed on the page will display graphicly in the design view.
I do have the option in the preferences - Invisible Elements
- Server-Side includes: and the check box is checked / enabled.
If I could, while I'm here, one other question. I have DW
code rewriting turned on, and it shows me each time I open a file,
what corrections it has made. But if I save the file, and then open
it again, it shows me the exact same corrections being done again.
Is there a trick to make DW8 save the corrections it automatically
makes to the files?
many thanks in advance.

> I know that there were major changes between 4 and 8.
One of which was tightening the tolerance for bad code. CS3
is very strict
about displaying proper code.
However, your fragments below look OK.
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quote:
Originally posted by:
bregent
> Do any of your included files include html, head or body
tags? If so,
> that's
> the problem. Having those creates invalid html which DW
will not
> render.
>
> Thats a great thought, but I just checked, and no, none
of those tags are
> in
> the files. I'll see if I can attach the code for the 2
files and see if
> that
> helps any. The header file does have my menu system
pasted into the text
> of
> the include file, but that has not caused problems
previously. FWIW, this
> worked fine in DW4 which is what I upgraded from. In
version 4, the
> headers
> and footers showed up fine in desgin view. I know that
there were major
> changes between 4 and 8.
>
> Header include file:
> ----------------------------
> <table border="0" align="center" width="750"
height="110">
> <tr>
> <td><a href="/index2.html"><img
src="/images/color_logo.gif"
> width="110"
> height="107" alt="MMDL Logo" border="0"
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> <td align="center" valign="middle"><a
href="/index2.html"><img
> src="/images/header4.gif" width="450" height="110"
border="0" alt="MMDL -
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> <td align="center" valign="middle"><a
href="testpage.html"></a><a
> href="
http://www.dmisports.com/darts_main.html"><img
> src="/images/dmilogo_small.gif" alt="DMI Sports"
width="110" height="77"
> border="0" longdesc="
http://www.dmisports.com"
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> 
> </a><a href="
http://www.mmdl.org/dmi_flyer.pdf">League
Board </a></td>
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> </table>
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> type="text/javascript">
> var navVer = navigator.appVersion;
> if(navVer.substr(0,3) >= 4)
> if((navigator.appName=="Netscape") &&
(parseInt(navigator.appVersion)==4))
> {
> document.write('<' + 'script language="JavaScript"
type="text/javascript"
> src="
http://www.mmdl.org/dmbmenu/nsmenu.js"><\/script\>');
> } else {
> document.write('<' + 'script language="JavaScript"
type="text/javascript"
> src="
http://www.mmdl.org/dmbmenu/iemenu.js"><\/script\>');
> }</script>
> <table border="0" width="550"
> height="110">
> -------------------------------------
> footer include file
> --------------------
> <table border="0" align="center">
> <tr>
> <td width="20" valign="top"
align="center"> </td>
> <td align="center" valign="middle" width="194">
> <div align="left"><a
href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=MMDL
> Darts.*..
> ">Comments? Email us</a></div>
> </td>
> <td align="center" valign="middle"
width="128"><a
> href="
http://www.mmdl.org/dmbmenu/textmenu.html">Text
> based menu</a></td>
> <td align="center" valign="middle"
width="223">© <SUP>SM</SUP>
> 2007
> Minute Man Dart League. All rights reserved.</td>
> </tr>
> </table>
> -----------------------
>
>
>
>

Cannot Preview Server Side Includes in Browser

I am working on building a new site using server side
includes for the main header graphic and menu items. For testing
purposes, I created an .html file with one <div> tag
containing a single graphic and an .shtml file with the server side
include code placed in the <head> area. (Doesn't seem to work
if I place it anywhere within the <body> tag... not sure
why). At any rate, I can see the SSI in the design view of my
document, but cannot see it whenever I go to preview the page in my
browser (Firefox 2.0.0.3). Everything works fine if I upload the
files to my Web server and view them that way, but why can't I see
the SSI when working on my local files? The Dreamweaver help files
explain that I should be able to do so, but it's just not working.
Well, I'm now at a loss and cannot figure out if I'm doing
something wrong of if this is just a bug of some kind. Can anyone
help me to solve this problem so that I can get back on track?
Much appreciated,
~Greg

>I am working on building a new site using server side
includes for the main
> header graphic and menu items. For testing purposes, I
created an .html
> file
> with one <div> tag containing a single graphic and
an .shtml file with the
> server side include code placed in the <head>
area.
This is not going to work at all. You cannot place body HTML
in the <head>
region.
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>I am working on building a new site using server side
includes for the main
> header graphic and menu items. For testing purposes, I
created an .html
> file
> with one <div> tag containing a single graphic and
an .shtml file with the
> server side include code placed in the <head>
area. (Doesn't seem to work
> if I
> place it anywhere within the <body> tag... not
sure why). At any rate, I
> can
> see the SSI in the design view of my document, but
cannot see it whenever
> I go
> to preview the page in my browser (Firefox 2.0.0.3).
Everything works
> fine if
> I upload the files to my Web server and view them that
way, but why can't
> I
> see the SSI when working on my local files? The
Dreamweaver help files
> explain
> that I should be able to do so, but it's just not
working. Well, I'm now
> at a
> loss and cannot figure out if I'm doing something wrong
of if this is just
> a
> bug of some kind. Can anyone help me to solve this
problem so that I can
> get
> back on track?
>
> Much appreciated,
> ~Greg
>
>

Server Side Includes Don't Show Up?

I support a web site and I've been maintaining it with DW (previous to CS3 and now I'm using CS3) and except for the home page, whenever I test a page locally on my PC, the content of the includes don't show up in the browser. Once I upload them to the web site, they work fine. I should point out that the home page is the only page in the root directory. All the other pages are in a next level folder. At the time I designed the web site, I thought this would help me organize things, but I regret doing it. This has happened with the previous version and with CS3.
Anyway, it's what I'm stuck with. I've set up my local site without server access. Given my situation, is there anyway to get the includes to work on my PC when I test the pages within DW?

To summarize: I press F12 to start a browsing session and that page is displayed properly with server side includes. While in that browsing session, I click on a link to another page, and that second page in the browsing session does not disply the server side includes. When these pages are uploaded to the server, they work properly
If you open one of the inner pages, and hit F12 can you see the includes on that page,, or on any of the other inner pages when you browse to them individually? I bet you can :-)
It's only when you try and go from the temp file to a properly name file that it doesn't work. There was a technote explaining this much better than Ican, but I just can't find it now.
If you want to see the pages work as if they were on the server, that is going from page to page by clicking on individual links, you really need to set up a testing server on your machine.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Dreamweaver/10.0_Using/WSc78c5058ca073340dcda9110b1f693f21-7b6 ba.html
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19165.html

When i add long text it effects the width of other server side include

hi
i have included some pages to my index page in a cell of a
table by server side include
when the text is too long it narrows the other text !!!
although the texts are in table cells !!!
how can i prohibit this effect ?no one of them effect the
other
thanks in advance.

It would be good to see your site to tell for sure.
There are several things that can cause this effect. Are the
included
tables wider than the cell on your index page? Do any of the
included pages
have images that might be wider than your target cell? Does
your target
table have a defined height?
Your include page should have only text with no wrappers
(tables, etc.) no
specific height, styles, or images. (yes you can include
images but you have
a whole lot of other stuff to consider) If your included text
is in a cell
with a width of say 600 but your target cell has a width of
400, the include
will widen the target cell to 600 wile narrowing adjoining
cells because it
is trying to keep your target table to it's predefined width.
Height is non supported in most browsers but in some will
cause your text to
widen a cell before it lengthens it so get rid of that in
your target table
if it's there.
If one of these ideas doesn't fix your problem, post a link
to your site and
to the include page so we can better tell what's going on.

What is the difference between jsp :include and server side include

what is the difference between jsp :include and server side include(request dispatcher include method)????
i understand that both request dispatcher include method and jsp:include take dynamic data,so when would one use request dispatcher include and when jsp:include.
Is the usage interchangeable?i believe jsp include is used only for jsp/html but include directive can be used to include servlets ,jsp and html....correct me if i m wrong and
do suggest if u hav ny other diff in this context...

The difference really is: in what format do you want your inclusions? If your environment has many Java developers and only a few designers that focus mainly on, say, Flash, that might push you more towards the server-side include() directive. Or, if you have a large set of pages that receive dynamic content that is displayed in a consistent fashion (such as a workflow header area on a page).
If, on the other hand, you have more web designers, there may be a greater desire to deal in markup rather than Java code. Java developers themselves might prefer to view markup (JSP) that more resembles the eventual output than something occuring in Java code.
Finally, there are considerations of tiering. While it is totally possible to (and I have previously) implement 'view classes' that render markup or generate layout templates, JSP's offer, IMO, a subtle, psychological advantage. By forcing a developer to work in a different format, markup versus Java source, the separation on view from controller and model becomes a bit easier. It is still possible to make mistakes, but if a developer at some point notices, "Wait, I'm in a JSP, should I be importing a java.sql class?", then the choice to use JSP includes has paid off in spades.
- Saish

Server-Side Include Issue - Please Help

I am having trouble using server-side includes in
Dreamweaver. When I use the SSI to insert the header file, the
header document shows up on the page in design view, but I cannot
click anything. The cursor turns into a "no sign" no matter where
it is on the page. I cannot see anything but the header document,
and I cannot click outside of it or anywhere else in design view.
When I test the whole document in a web browser it actually seems
to work just fine. I see the header and the other text on the page
(unlike in dreamweaver, I cannot see anything but the header). Also
in Dreamweaver code view, the php tags and the included filename
are in red. This is the code for the test document:

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 04:02:29 +0000 (UTC), "AngryCloud"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> <?php include("header.php"); ?>
What does the code look like in header.php? Does it have
<html>, <head>
and <body> tags? It should not.
Gary

Spry accordion widget - SSI (server side include) as content in the panel

After having inserted the following command <!--# include file = "content2.asp" -> in the accordion Panel Content I get an error in Dreamweaver - every time I open the file. See the error in the attached picture.
Once all files are uploaded to the server it works apparently without problems or script errors.
Is there anyone who can help me to use SSI "server side include" as content in accordion panels?

Thanks for your reply.
The fault lay in the SSI file. This file contained these tag:
</ html>
And of course the tag </ html> generate an error if the tag is inserted in the content of the accordion panel via ssi file.

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