[AS][IDCS3] PDF Export Preferences Color Conversion setting

I want to set the field of Color Conversion (as equivalent to manual setting under Output>Color>Color Conversion) to "No Color Conversion" in Applescript but couldn't figure it out.
My skeleton Applescript is as follow:-
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS3"
   tell PDF export preferences
       -- I want to set No Color Conversion for Color Conversion here
   end tell
   tell document 1
       export format PDF type to filename without showing options
   end tell
end tell
I have search through Applescript ID CS3 dictionary but couldn't find the answer. Hope someone can advise. Thanks!

Use:
set effective PDF destination profile to use no profile
Shane Stanley <[email protected]>
AppleScript Pro Sessions <http://scriptingmatters.com/aspro>

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