ASO Cube with BSO Partition as a Target

Hi,
Can someone please explain me the following because after reading different blogs as well as some other Essbase documents I am not able to understand,
What is the actual use of having a BSO Transparent partition (target) of an ASO cube (source)?
How exactly does the Write-Back functionality works if I have a BSO Transparent partition (target) of an ASO cube (source)?
And lastly, in what business scenario one would implement a BSO Transparent partition (target) of an ASO cube (source)?
Your help is much appreciated.
thanks,
fikes

I have a situation where I have a BSO (target) on top of an ASO (source). This was to try and resolve the dynamic time series (where time and periods are in different dimensions). The DTS works almost great in the BSO partition.
The other problem (or why we wanted to go to ASO) was that BSO cubes do not handle attributes across partitions (we have quarterly data in transparent partitions) to the target cube. -- but we do have dynamic time series.
What I'm facing now it that the attributes work in the BSO (target) except when using a dynamic time series.
The attributes are defined in both the BSO and ASO cubes.
Any suggestions on how to handle attributes AND dynamic time series ?

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