Asset capitalization in specific ledgers/depreciation areas

Scenario: Example:
Leading Ledger 0L: IFRS- Book depreciation 01 in AA u2013Posting to GL
Non Leading Ledger Z0: US GAAP Depreciation Area 04 in AA- Posting to GL
Non leading ledger Z1 :JP GAAP: No depreciation area in AA ( We donu2019t want to capitalize in this ledger)
All initial APC postings are updating in all ledgers even though no depreciation area for non leading ledger Z1 in asset accounting. We donu2019t want to post non leading ledger Z1. Example: Lease Assets- we need to capitalize only in leading ledger.
Do we need to maintain separate depreciation areas for each accounting principle?
What is the best approach for this issue?

Hello ,
Please be aware that real time postings on the leading ledger goes
to all ledgers. This is standard functionality. To change this would
require a modification to the ABAP code.
You can go to help.sap.com to check the documentation:
FI -> Asset -> Integration -> Parallel Account in Asset Accounting ->
Making Settings for Parallel Ledgers in FI-AA
Also the ledger scenario in your company code should have set up a
smiliar looking to this:
AREA     TEXT            POST TO GL                             LEDGER
01       Local GAAP     1 (Real time)                            0L
05       abcdefg         3 (Depreciation only)                    L2
33       DELTA AREA      5 or 6 (APC only or Only APC directly)   L2
Please can you check again in your system if your ledger scenario is
set up like above example putting your attention to the posting
indicator of each area involved in the matter
Acquisition/transf/retirement postings in area 01
go to all ledgers independently of your setting in OADB and, if any
difference occurs between area 01 an area XX this is posted trough
the derived area YY (posting indicator 6).
regards
Ray

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Different Asset value dates for different depreciation areas

Hi All
I have a requirement for different capitalization dates in different depreciation areas for some LATAM countries .How can this be achieved?

Hi
Hope you can achive this requirement by entering Depreciation calculation start date in depreciation area tab of asset master against each depreciation area
Depreciation calculation start date
'As a general rule, the system determines the depreciation start date from the asset value date of the first acquisition posting. However, you can also manually enter a calendar date in the asset master record for the start of depreciation. In that case, the system ignores the asset value date of the acquisition posting.'
Please check different scenarios in development system and then do it
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Updating fully depreciated assets during creation of subsequent depreciation area

I am subsequently adding multiple depreciation areas in SAP. The system has been live for many years with a legacy system handling the depreciation for the tax books via dual maintenance. I have been able to bring in the new areas via AFBN without issue except for one thing. Many of these assets are fully depreciated in Book01 in SAP but they have remaining tax life. The problem is when the asset is fully depreciated and I assign it cost or try to make a change in the depreciation area tab it automatically fully depreciates those values.
Has anyone ran into this before? What options are there to provide a solution?
To recap; Want to add tax book values to assets already live in SAP. Issue is assets already fully depreciated. Any adjustment to keys and UL on them results in a calculation but regardless it fully depreciates whatever that amount will be.
Many thanks,
Jack

Hi Jack,
I suppose, there are some settings somewhere, which do not allow the asset to have values.
Presumption:
1) AFAMA - Base method -Treatment of end of life: In the depreciation key: there is not "dep. after pland. life end" allowed
2) In OADB there are wrong settings (perhaps no positive acquisition values allowed)
3) Perhaps this is constitutional area and in OADB there is rule for the derived area which is broken.
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Asset values not coming in depreciation area

Hi Experts,
Following the management requirement we have created a new depreciation area 50 with posting indicator "0".
We found that asset posting from CJ88 (AUC to Final settlement) is not getting updated in depreciation area 50.
Please help me this. Necessary details are mentioned below:-
1. Depreciation area 50 is activated for main asset class but not for CWIP.
2. For depreciation area 50, value maintenance is set as Only Positive values or zero allowed.(Screen shot attached)
3. Transaction type 336 is not restricted to any depreciation area.(Screen shot attached)
Am attaching relevant screen shot.
Thanks in advance

HI Mukhthar,
Thanks for the prompt reply.
In some cases system is updating values in depreciation area 50 even CWIP is not activated but in maximum cases system is not updating the values.
I have carried out the changes in quality by activating depreciation area 50 for CWIP and perform a test case and it works but i want to know the root cause of this issue that why system is behaving like this and how it updates value in some cases.
Please suggest

Fixed asset Write up Error. ABZU(Parallel depreciation area 32 is not poste

Hi Sap Gurus,
      I am running into an error when trying to post a write up via "ABZU". Here is the error message "Parallel depreciation area 32 is not posted". Message no. AA565.
Diagnosis
The asset to be posted does not manage parallel depreciation area 32, or transaction type that you are using is limited to certain depreciation areas, and does not contain depreciation area 32. This is incorrect.
System Response
Posting is rejected.
Procedure
Check the asset and the transaction type.
I tried "Limit Transaction Types to Depreciation Areas" in t-code:OAXE for derpeciation area 01 and 32 but still i am getting the same error. I am using ttype:700. When i look into derpeciation tab in asset master record i have depreciation area 32 is there. Is there any configuration piece i am missing. We are using area 32 as IFRS in group which is copy of 01.
Any help will be appreciate.
Thanks and Regards,
Babu

Hi,
There are the following reasons:
1) The wrong transaction type is being used. Please verify that you are using transaction type in the 700 series for your write-up.
2) The transaction type is restricted to certain depreciation areas.   In transaction OAXE the transaction type can be restricted to post only to certain areas. If the asset manages a parallel area you have to extend the posting to include the parallel area.
3) The asset was created before you introduced parallel currencies and does not manage the parallel area. In this case, the parallel area must be created on the asset or the values need to be transferred to a new asset that manages the parallel area.
4) Transacion types 600 and 601 can only be used for assets that have a calculation key in their depreciation area that allows no automatic calculation (for example depr key MANU). The unplanned transaction types however can be used with assets that allow automatic calculation.
You also need to verify that there are entries in Table ANLB for the asset in question for the depreciation area.
5) Your company code uses parallel currencies (currency types 10-co.code currency, 50-Index based currency, 30-Group currency...for example). The assets created in this company code must have the depreciation areas for parallel currencies active. You can only do this in activating the depreciation areas with parallel currencies for all the asset classes used in this company code.
Check transaction OAYZ to make sure the areas are activated for all asset classes in the co.code. If not, you will need to       activate these areas and ensure the asset has all areas assigned.
regards Bernhard

FI-AA: Assignment asset class to chart of depreciation

Hi all,
does anybody know whether it's possible to assign asset classes to a specific chart of depreciation (or let's say to delete this assignment)?
The background of the question is the following: Some asset classes should not be used in some company codes. All these company codes use the same chart of depreciation, so I thought there must be a possibility to delete the assignment of this asset class to this chart of depreciation. Unfortunately, I haven't found this setting in the IMG.
The SAP Message no. AC 012 tells for example, that there is an assignment "asset class to chart of depreciation". This is the message:
In order to be able to assign chart-of-depreciation-dependent data to asset class 120204, the following conditions have to be met. You have to have already
1. Defined at least two active charts of depreciation
2. Assigned asset class 120204 to more than one chart of depreciation
However, at the moment this asset class is only assigned to chart of depreciation 1.
As we have definitely more than one active chart of depreciation, there must be this assignment, but how can I change it?
I've seen that I can set a block for an asset class in a chart of depreciation in transaction OAYZ (ANKB-XSPEB / Indicator: Block asset class chart of depreciation-specifc). But I think that I will still see the asset class in the match code search (F4) when I set this indicator.
Does anybody know how I can delete an asset class form a chart of depreciation so that it won't be found via match code search? I've checked almost the whole FI-AA tree but haven't found a solution...
Thank you very much!
Regards,
Peter

Hi Eric,
thanks for your answer. As far as I can see, the option "chart of depreciation only" in transaction AM05 has the same effect than the parameter "chart of depreciation" in transaction OAYZ.
As I receive a transport request via transaction AM05, it seems that this changes the same customizing table.
Fortunately, all company codes in this chart of depreciation need the same settings, so a validation rule seems not to be necessary.
It's just strange that there is no possibility to edit the assignment asset class to chart of depreciation in customizing (I think the assignment to all asset classes in the system will be created automatically when I copy the chart of depreciation). I think the only possibility would be to edit the respective tables manually (what I definitely won't do).
Another strange thing I see in the system: There are 2 asset classes 120203 and 120204, which are both set up equally. When I try to block these in AM05, I'll receive the error message AA 111 for asset class 120204, while the asset class 120203 can be blocked without problems. When I use matchcode search F4, I can see 120203 while 120204 is not found.
Message AA111 is the following:
Chart of dep. 100 does not exist in class 120204 (Create chart of deprec.)
Diagnosis
Chart of depreciation 100 does not exist in class 120204.
Procedure
Create the chart of depreciation 100 for asset class 120204 using the transaction 'Create asset class' and the function 'Create chart of dep.'.
There is the assignment asset class to chart of depreciation.
When I check asset class 120204 in OAYZ (Determine Depreciation Areas in the Asset Class) I'll get the following message (I don't get this message when I check 120203):
Deprec. area 50 was changed and deactivated. Please check.
Message no. AC 631
Diagnosis
Depreciation area 50 was added to asset class 120204 because this depreciation area was newly created in Customizing.
System Response
The system adds the new depreciation area to the asset class, but its status is 'deactivated.'
Procedure
Check if this action by the system is correct. Maintain the depreciation areas in the asset class, and remove the 'deactivated' indicator there, if you choose.
For sure, depreciation area 50 was not newly created in customizing (as stated in the error message), as this depreciation are is in production for years! There must be another reason for this.
However, this says to me that the assignment asset class to chart of depreciation is created by SAP automatically and this can't be influenced.
Therefore I'll just block the asset class in the chart of depreciation with the disadvantage, that I'll see this asset class when I use the matchcode search F4 (e.g. in AS01). This seems to be the only solution.
Thanks again for your help (you got some points for that ;-).
Regards,
Peter

IT Depreciation area '15' values are not coming

Hi,
We have configured the AA component and the transactions are working fine includes Acquisitions, Depreciation etc. we have created the group assets to take the IT Gross block and enabled the '15' Depreciation area for them and created the derived depreciation area '16', difference between Book (01) -IT (15). But the thing is, for individual assets (other than Group assets) system is not showing the IT Depreciation where the IT Depreciation is displaying for the group assets only, so the derived depreciation area '16' is displaying wrong amounts. For ex-
Main Asset - 1000
Book(01)    - 200
IT(15)         - 0 (is not displaying in the AW01N)
Derived Dep (01-15=16) - 200
Group Asset - 1000
Book(01) - 0 (is not displaying in the AW01N)
IT(15) - 400
Derived Dep (01-15=16) - 400
How should I get the correct values for derived depreciation area at individual asset level?
Please give some inputs to resolve the above
Thanks & Regards
Ramki

Hi Srinu,
Thanks for your valuable reply.
1) You should have all of your group assets under one asset class only and that asset class would have ticked in OAAX. - YES
2) Group asset number should have assigned to the concerned assets in depreciation area details section. - In AS01, for every individual assets, we have assigned the Group Asset number since the Group asset is required for area '15'
Regards,
Ramki

Change Currency in Existing Depreciation Area

Hi Bernhard Kirchner, Brigitte Kuehni and All
I have a requirement to change the Currency for an existing Depreciation Area ( Area Does not post) from TWD to USD.
This depreciation area already has postings in Production.
Could you please suggest, if it is possible and what are the steps to be followed and the data conversion requirements if any.
We have already evaluated the option of creating a new Depreciation area in USD, but that is ruled out following the group norms.
Thanks & Regards,
Kavita

Hi Kavita,
If there are already assets with values in a depreciation area it is no
longer possible to change the currency in transaction OAYH.
The system will not allow you do this, you will get an error.
Once you have postings made, the amounts posted will not automatically
be changed into the new currency.
If the depreciation area 01 is the reference area:
- a reference area cannot be simply switched to another currency. It
has to be identical with the currency of the local currency.
- in order to achieve consistency the amounts in this local currency
have to be converted into the new local currency, which cannot be done
by transaction OAYH simply, otherwise the system could become
inconsistent.
If you change the currency of the depreciation 01 the amounts posted
are not automatically changed into the new currency but taken over one
to one.
To change the currency, you should use the conversion tools.
If you are in a development system doing some initial customizing
(never in an already running production system) you can update the
content in table T093B with a self made ABAP program.
Another possibility is to make a new chart of depreciation and configure
its depreciation areas as you like.
Best regards
Bernhard

Depreciation area not posted

I have one requirement for my new depreciation area 93, the depreciation area 93 will take same value as depreciation area 01,
but using different depreciation key
my detailed requirement is :(1) any asset disposal only post to depreciation area 01 but not 93, how to configure this?
(2). depreciation area 93 need to run monthly depreciation area, we create accumlated depreciation account and Acquisition account for each asset class in depreciation area 93, but these accounts master are not defined as reconcillation account-asset
is it a issue when we run afab for depreciation area 20
(3), when we run askbn, it doesn't adjust accumulated depreciation in depreciation area 93, should we use fb01 to upload accumulated depreciation for depreciation area 93?

Hi,
1) Use a limited transaction type.
2) Should be tested
3)   When opening of new depreciation area via RAFABNEW you have the following flags:
a.     Indicator: Leave values initial = not ticked.
           Do not set this indicator if you want the system
           to copy the values from depreciation area 01.
                                                                                b.     Indicator: Leave values initial = ticked.
           Set this indicator if you want to open the newly created
           depreciation area without any values i.e. blank.
regards Bernhard

Define How Depreciation Area Post to General

Dear SAP Gurus,
I have following requirements regarding Asset Accounting:
At present, in Depreciation Area for Group Reporting *'3-Only depreciation posted in the General Ledger'* rule was configured.
Now, that rule is changed to "2-Post assets periodically in General Ledger" and Account Determination is done for posting APC and other Balance Sheet Accounts Accordingly.
Please describe the detail process like how to transfer existing balnce of APC to newly created Account for APC and posting will take place in APC of Group if a new asset is acquired.
Please reply soon its urgent.
Points will be awarded.
Regards
Ekhlaque

Hi Ekhlaque,
When you look in your setup for G/L accounts you see (AO90)
- Bal. sheet account: Acquisition and production costs              (BAL)
- Contra account: Acquisition value posting                               (BAL)
- Accumulated depreciation account for ordinary depreciation     (BAL)
- Expense account for ordinary depreciation                              (P&L)
The offset account you use is Contra account: Acquisition value posting.
With this setup you have to run before the depreciation run the program ASKB - Periodic Posting. (this create the "double" posting on your G/L accounts. The Depreciation run will works for are 01 ands this area.
Offend this setup is used for US-Books area 01 and XX for local (tax) books
During the year the total values on these G/L accounts are 0.
With the year end closing the value Expense account for ordinary depreciation should be posted on the Contra account: Acquisition value posting                               .
(TC FS00 the Expense account for ordinary depreciation should be assigned to a P&L statement account type that is posting to the Contra account: Acquisition value posting depreciation)
Offen these accounts are created in the 9 account group and you have 2 balance sheet version.   A normal one and one whit these accounts

AUC and depreciation area

we are opening a new depreciation area 92, can we activiate the AUC asset class for this depreciation area, if AUC asset not activiated, then how can we settle AUC to fixed asset under depreciation area 92? thanks

Hi
please read carefully notes
114419    RAFABNEW: no new depreciation area for investment
418182    New depreciation area for existing assets
317806    RAFABNEW: No new depreciation area for investment measures
best regards,
Blaz

Deactivate a depreciation area (Real area but does not post)

Hi Guys
I want to deactivate a depreciation area.
It is a real depreciation area but area does not post in GL.
Is there any risk in deactivating the depreciation area in the asset class ? We do not want to use this area any more '
Thanks

Thanks Anil
But my question is
Should I only have to deactivate the depreciation area in the asset class OAYZ ? In this case new asset won´t see this depreciation area , but old asset still show this depreciation area in AS03. It seems no issue with this approach.
Someone has suggested me also to deactivate it in OABN (but this depreciation area did not post) If I untick ordinary depreciation field in OABN when I go to the asset I have an error message:
"You cannot manage ordinary depreciation in area 60
Message no. AA656
Diagnosis
According to Customizing settings, ordinary depreciation cannot be managed in area 60. The posting being processed changes ordinary depreciation.
Procedure
Check the amount entered and the transaction type."
So, what is the safety procedure just go to OAYZ (I think this is the right way) and unclick the field "deact" ?
"Indicator: Depreciation area is deactivated
Set this indicator if you want the depreciation area to be inactive in this asset class or asset (although it is defined in the chart of depreciation)."
Any other suggestion ?
Regards

Error : Depreciation area 00 not created in comp.code

Dear friends,
Need assistsnce how to resolve asset master data problem for "Depreciation area 00 not created in comp.code".
What I intend to do is to do an asset recalculation thru AS02> edit> recalculate values. But the system showed the above error.
How can I resolve this. I have read thru the SAP note 459700, but I dont really understand the solution given.
If anyone have similar experience, appreciate your help. Also for those who know how to resolve this... pls..help.
Thanks.
Syaban.

Hi Srinivas,
Here's the cronology.
Actually I detect 1 asset that was created in 2007 and have all the APC, Depr expense & accum until 12/2007.
But coming to fiscal year 2008, this asset was not brought forward to year 2008, hence making the asset report not correct bacuse the asset was not displayed at all.
I did tried to redo the fiscal year change but no impact still same error. Then I tried to do recalculate value just to see if the asset can be corrected thru that function. At this point where the error message appear.
Not sure why the error appearing since in our system we dont have such depr area 00.
Thanks

Deactivate a depreciation Area

Hi Guys
I wan to deactivate a depreciation area. Depreciation area does not post but it is a real depreciation area.
Is there any risk to deactivate the depreciation area for the asset class in OAYZ ?
We do not want this depreciation area be activated any more.
Thanks

Hi
But I do not want to use this depreciation area any more for any other asset.
So I have several suggestion but I am confused:
- In OABN (this only manage ordinary depreciation)
- But I think the safety procedure is deactivating it in OAYZ.
I am wondering what are the steps to deactivate the depreciation area in a safetely way whitout impact.
The depreciation area itself did not post in GL , nevertherless it is it is a real depreciation area. (OADB).
Can anyone suguest all the steps , why I have to do it in OABN rather than in OAYZ.
I think that if I have to deactivate the depreciation area I have to do it in OAYZ (for asset class, then new assets won´t have this depreciation area available whereas old asset still show this depreciation area in AS03.

Derived depreciation area

Hello Gurus,
I am trying to create derived depreciation area with t-code OADB.
This t-code is disabled and not allowing me to define the derived areas. Is this the right t-code to define Derived areas? or Is there any other way?
Please help me. Your time will be greately appreciated..
Thank you..
Regards
Geeta

Hello
Postings to derived area is simultaneous.
check this
The "Derived Depreciation Areas" component makes it possible to determine new asset values based on asset values that have already been determined. The derived depreciation area uses mathematical formulas to determine values based on values in real areas, such as the difference between depreciation in two depreciation areas. The system then manages these new values in the derived depreciation area.
You define the formula for the derived depreciation area in FI-AA Customizing (Define depreciation areas). In the formula for a derived area, you can use up to four real areas. The arithmetic operations allowed are addition and subtraction. It is possible to mix the calculation rules. This includes using proportional values from real areas in the calculation.
When defining the formula, it is up to you to make sure it is reasonable. Make sure that the key of the derived area is larger than the keys of the real areas it is based on. A derived area "03" can be derived from the real areas "01" and "02" but not from areas "04" and "05."
You can also specify that the derived depreciation area is only for reporting. The system then does not subject the area to value checks (such as the check for positive/negative net book value).
When defining a derived depreciation area, keep in mind that the rules for remaining book value rule in the derived depreciation area can affect the depreciation in the real areas from which it is derived (see Characteristics of a Depreciation Area). Enter a modification area in order to specify which of the real areas this should be.
Be careful when using derived depreciation areas for group assets. In the formula for derived depreciation areas that are for group assets, you can only use depreciation areas that are also intended for group assets (see Group Assets).
Reg
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