Async to Sync Scenario Issue

Hi ALL,
My Scenario is Sender Idoc and Receiver is SOAP (Webservices).my sender is Async but my receiver is Sync system ..My Receiver SOAP system is sending a Response acknowledgment..which i dont want to in my sender..
Every time i trigger message i am getting an acknowledgment ,, since i haven't handled that acknowledgment the scenario is going to Error ..
Suggest wht i can do in this case.
how can i handle this Ack do i need to use the Sync ,,,Aync bridge.. ?
Regards
Shakif

Hi,
You can define an async, inbound Message interface for the Receiver web service with only request message type since you dont want any response back.
Your sender IDOC system might be requesting acknowledgements. To stop this run IDX_NOALE report in XI system according to your requirement. You can check the following doc :
[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb]
Thanks,
- Gujjeti.

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