Audio in Uncompressed 10 bit files

The audio in my 10 bit uncompressed quicktime files is not showing up in quicktime X or FCP X but can be seen in Quicktime 7.
If I open in QUicktime 7 and hit save it then displays the audio files in QTX and FCPX. Why?
I have 12 TB of footage with over 1000 takes. Surely I dont have to open up every single clip to force it to see the audio right?
Is this a codec thing? Yes I know I know. I could run it through automator but I shouldn't have to. Incidently is this something compressor can do.

Divx has been used by pirates your many years. I think the studios have shunned it and XVID because it is used in nearly all pirated movies.
You can still make blu-rays and play from a computer as data (no burner needed). That's what I'm doing. Mostly because I find it hard to encode XVID and DIVX. I'm sure if I looked into there are some programs that it would be the most efficient viewing codec.
Put your media on a small portable harddrive or USB thunbdrive then hook it up to the WD TV HD Media Player(with remote) and you can watch hours worth of full HD anywhere you go. HDMI out, rca out at ton of supported dormats and the of an internal harddrive. With remote.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136325&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=O TC-Froogle-_-Hard+Drives+-+External-_-Western+Digital-_-22136325
I think that bluray mpeg and blue ray h264 both look great and the file sizes are reasonable. I get good stuff with a bitrate of 15,000 for 720 and 25,000 or 30,000. Especially when when using 2 pass VBR.
The reason I haven't learned to encode good DIVX/XVID files is because they have any commercial value (yet..) so i need to concentrate on blu-rays.
If your doing it for your pleasure/fun then look into other encoding programs for DIVX. Hands down it's the best quality for size codec out there.

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help help help please
i have a client that i edited a 26minute film for,i captured the footage as dv pal 720by576 edited as the same and exported as a quicktime ,current settings .
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